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Slave and submissive...ugh


Only Gorean Slaves are real slaves.
  0% (0)
A slave is a slave because their owner deems them that.
  3% (7)
Submissives are more intelligent than slaves.
  0% (1)
A slave is less likely to be capable of making a decision than a sub.
  1% (3)
Real slaves dont exist, its a term within bdsm for a submissive.
  0% (2)
A slave hands over all decisions to their Master/Mistress,a sub doesnt
  9% (21)
A slave is full time submissive, a sub is part time submissive.
  2% (5)
A slave lives for their Owner, a submissive chooses when and how.
  7% (17)
A slave serves more deeply and is more committed Ds than a submissive.
  3% (8)
A slave has no personal power, a submissive does.
  3% (7)
A submissive maintains some authority in relationship, a slave doesnt.
  5% (13)
A slave lives to serve, a submissive serves to suit them.
  4% (9)
Only people living 24/7 can be real slaves.
  2% (6)
I'm as confused as you slavejali, screwed if I know...
  4% (10)
A slave just knows they are a slave...in their heart
  12% (27)
Slaves are more sex objects than submissives
  0% (2)
Slaves are more service orientated than submissives
  5% (12)
Slaves have less limits than submissives
  7% (16)
Submissives can say no, slaves can't.
  5% (13)
A submissive knows how to be assertive, a slave doesn't.
  0% (1)
A submissive could switch, a slave couldn't.
  1% (4)
Slaves want to surrender completely, submissives don't.
  7% (17)
Slaves are doormats with no personality, submissives aren't.
  0% (2)
Submissives want the choice of saying no, slaves don't.
  6% (15)


Total Votes : 218
(last vote on : 11/14/2006 5:27:09 PM)
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Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:11:53 AM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		I was going to post this thread in general bdsm discussion cause it does involve that..but then I thought well it might be good to do it as a poll..so here it is.

So its about that old tired worn out issue of slave vs sub...the whole thing makes my mind flip flop and spin circles and I just dont get the whole thing .......so...just so we can get some percentages going....... I would like you to give your vote on the above questions...you can pick more than one as being true from how you perceive things....

Slavesubmissiveslavesubmissiveslavesubmissive.....

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:19:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		And where is the button for ... "None of the above"

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:23:57 AM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		hehe..I'm still making buttons..this is fun!! lol...
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btw...you can select more than one choice....you dont have to just choose one.

< Message edited by slavejali -- 5/11/2006 5:31:56 AM >

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		You finaly made one I could agree with
" A slave just knows they are a slave...in their heart"

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:46:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow girl...  think it should really be about what you think and feel. You dont need a poll for that, but I happily voted.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 5:49:36 AM   
slavejali


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Status: offline 		Well, its really just a bit of fun..but could be interesting too...

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 7:51:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Coming from a journalism ed - the questions are a bit leading/biased, but...great non-the less.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 8:06:42 PM   
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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/11/2006 8:18:35 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Uhhh...the problem with most of these choices is that they presume "slave" and "submissive" are mutually exclusive categories.  They're not.  You can be a slave and a sub all at the same time.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 2:05:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

You finaly made one I could agree with
" A slave just knows they are a slave...in their heart"


Going to be VERY interesting to see where it ends.
And I do agree, a slave knows.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 6:17:29 AM   
smilezz


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Status: offline 		Yeah!  and what about the:  submissive slave with dominant traits who has a sadistic streak?

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Thanks jali, it is fun!

Happy Saturday...

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 6:29:45 AM   
feastie


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Status: offline 		You've got a lot of choices, jali, but none that represent my view of it.  I don't think even a poll could possibly list every reason for the difference between a submissive person and a slave.  So, I'll have to agree with Raven and say, where's the "None of the Above" button.  I also voted, but it's an answer I had to settle for but don't quite believe it's right.  A for effort though, jali.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 7:48:36 AM   
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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 1:58:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think any of them are true 100% of the time, except the one about me being confused.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 5:00:50 PM   
Raethepain


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Status: offline 		Interesting questions!

(voted!)

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 5:29:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RavenMuse

You finaly made one I could agree with
" A slave just knows they are a slave...in their heart"


Yup, that's the only one that resonated with me. I can't explain it any other way.



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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 7:06:34 PM   
Littlepita


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Status: offline 		I voted for confused. Not that I really care, but I had to pick something. I go back and forth on if I'm a slave or a sub. Bet that don't make me a real slave since I do go back and forth huh?

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 7:16:06 PM   
livinandlearnin


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Status: offline 		I did not vote I will start off with that but this does cause me to post..(two posts in less than a week, wonder if I'm becoming addicted) since I started learning about the lifestyle I have been asked several times am I a submissive or a slave and when I asked what the difference is I have recieved a different answer from everyone I asked... So I have no idea what I am just what I feel inside so if anyone actually gets an answer for that question I sure would like to know so I can figure out what I am.

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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/13/2006 7:17:13 PM   
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RE: Slave and submissive...ugh - 5/17/2006 6:45:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Damn jali. Almost 200 votes and I bet you dont feel a bit better do you?

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