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Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:00:27 AM   
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Weeeeeeee!!!

Here we go again....

Are we going to blame the Republicans this time around too?

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A Renewed Crackdown on Redlining


In the wake of the subprime implosion, the Obama Administration has stepped up its scrutiny of disadvantaged neighborhoods' credit access

Community activists in St. Louis became concerned a couple of years ago that local banks weren't offering credit to the city's poor and African American residents. So they formed a group called the St. Louis Equal Housing and Community Reinvestment Alliance and began writing complaint letters to federal regulators.


Apparently, someone in Washington took notice. The Federal Reserve has cited one of the group's targets, Midwest BankCentre, a small bank that has been operating in St. Louis's predominantly white, middle-class suburbs for over a century, for failing to issue home mortgages or open branches in disadvantaged areas. Although executives at the bank say they don't discriminate, Midwest BankCentre's latest annual report says it is in the process of negotiating a settlement with the U.S. Justice Dept. over its lending practices.


Lawyers and bank consultants say regulators and the Obama Administration are scrutinizing financial institutions for a practice that last drew attention before the rise of subprime lending: redlining. The term dates from the 1930s, when the Federal Housing Administration drew up maps using red ink to delineate inner-city neighborhoods considered too risky for lending. Congress later passed laws banning lending discrimination on the basis of race and other characteristics. "The agencies have refocused on redlining because, in the wake of the subprime explosion and sudden implosion, they are looking at these disadvantaged neighborhoods and not seeing any credit access," says Jo Ann Barefoot, co-chair at Treliant Risk Advisors in Washington, D.C., which consults with banks on regulatory issues.

Full article at http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_20/b4228031594062.htm



Dont those wascawwy Wepubwiccans weewy tick you off...



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From an editorial in Investors Business Daily:


Obama in a statement yesterday blamed the shocking new round of subprime-related bankruptcies on the free-market system, and specifically the "trickle-down" economics of the Bush administration, which he tried to gig opponent John McCain for wanting to extend.

But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.



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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:03:19 AM   
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Sanity is right. These people WANT to screw up the economy. It is all about those that PRODUCE giving to those that do not produce. I"m still steaming over odumbo's mouth running in el paso. With the mexican flag at his back. What an empty suit. And that applies to michelle's slave, too.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:16:38 AM   
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quote:

Weeeeeeee!!!

Here we go again....

Are we going to blame the Republicans this time around too?


Are you saying that all greedy unethical bankers are republicans?

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:16:51 AM   
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Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages


Try again. It's about credit access. Nothing in there about subprime mortgages or pressure to write them.

A subprime mortgage is a type of loan granted to individuals with poor credit histories (often below 600), who, as a result of their deficient credit ratings, would not be able to qualify for conventional mortgages. Because subprime borrowers present a higher risk for lenders, subprime mortgages charge interest rates above the prime lending rate.

There are several different kinds of subprime mortgage structures available. The most common is the adjustable rate mortgage (ARM), which initially charges a fixed interest rate, and then convert to a floating rate based on an index such as LIBOR, plus a margin. The better known types of ARMs include 3/27 and 2/28 ARMs.

ARMs are somewhat misleading to subprime borrowers in that the borrowers initially pay a lower interest rate. When their mortgages reset to the higher, variable rate, mortgage payments increase significantly. This is one of the factors that lead to the sharp increase in the number of subprime mortgage foreclosures in August of 2006, and the subprime mortgage meltdown that ensued. (To learn more, read The Fuel That Fed The Subprime Meltdown.)

Many lenders were more liberal in granting these loans from 2004 to 2006 as a result of lower interest rates and high capital liquidity. Lenders sought additional profits through these higher risk loans, and they charged interest rates above prime in order to compensate for the additional risk they assumed. Consequently, once the rate of subprime mortgage foreclosures skyrocketed, many lenders experienced extreme financial difficulties, and even bankruptcy.



http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/07/subprime-mortgage.asp

Banks have been tight about credit everywhere. They could use a push, and not just here.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:24:38 AM   
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These people WANT to screw up the economy.


You mean, like starting two unfunded wars and cutting taxes, which tanked the dollar, sparked three recessions (we bought our way out with monetary policy until interest rates were so low we couldn't out of the third), flattened the stock market (leading investors to speculate in oil and food, driving up prices with increased demand), creating a structural deficit dooming the economy for two decades (and that's if we do something to fix the mess...longer if not), hoping that if they crash the economy, they can cut social security and medicaid/medicare, but with no plan to address the ensuing mess those programs were instituted to resolve?

Yes, I think they really do, at least some of them. Borrow and spend is not a viable long term strategy, and starting with Reagan, it's been the Republican mainstay.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:25:29 AM   
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Why  should anyone have to have a mortgage on a house?   It only drives up prices.

I already pay property tax...   I should not need the mortgage I have as well.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:33:34 AM   
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Why should anyone have to have a mortgage on a house? It only drives up prices.


What are you talking about?

No one has to have a mortgage on a house. I don't on mine. Pay for cash for it if you like.

It does not drive up prices. I suppose you could argue it increases demand, but it also widely enable economies of scale, as most do finance their homes.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:37:17 AM   
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Elemer Fudd is a democrat?

Huh.

I'd a thought he was a Republican for sure. I mean, he's an avid hunter, probably a member of the NRA... and he sure don't give a rats ass about animal rights.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:46:54 AM   
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"Why  should anyone have to have a mortgage on a house?   It only drives up prices. "

Get some coffee. You buy a house the previous owner got paid. With what ? Unless you have cash that is.......







And now to the topic. It seems pretty simple that they are trying to buy votes. In fact just about everything they do that appears to be in favor of the people (seems is the operative word here), is for the purpose of getting votes. So with the election coming up, these ARMs won't crank up until afterwards. Could be wrong but it would explain it. Of course the result will probably be the same, another round of foreclosures, but after the election who cares ?

I am strongly opposed to electing any President to a second term because it's like they got carte blanche. They know they can't run again. Of course if this is the wonderful first term, we're in deep shit. And really as far as the republicans go, we just plain old don't need any more wars, whether the credit will support them or not.

So it's damned if we do and damned if we don't, unless a viable (and sensible) third party steps up. Otherwise I think I can safely predict a lower voter turnout. At least noone can accuse me of voting for the next asshole.

T^T

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:47:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Why should anyone have to have a mortgage on a house? It only drives up prices.


What are you talking about?

No one has to have a mortgage on a house. I don't on mine. Pay for cash for it if you like.

It does not drive up prices. I suppose you could argue it increases demand, but it also widely enable economies of scale, as most do finance their homes.


If no one financed their homes the prices would be a 10th of what they are now.    Then people could afford to OWN a house- rather then rent it from a bank.   (which is what a mortgage is)

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:51:26 AM   
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OK, while that is true there would also be less houses. These construction companies usually don't pull the money out of pocket for new developments.

The same could be said for insurance. If it weren't for medical insurance a CAT scan would be about ten bucks. But how many CAT scanners would there be in the country ? If not for car insurance people wouldn't buy cars with tailight lenses which cost $400. Then there would be less cars.

And of course if we let people starve to death, there would be less people. Hey, this is starting to sound pretty good. I better stop now.

T^T

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:51:49 AM   
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Uh, the massive amount of forclosure houses dumped on the market by the banks make them worth about 10% of their bubble price, so buy them up with your silver.  

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:53:41 AM   
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What nonsense.

Renting and building equity are two different things.

Financing a home doesn't drive up prices.

If you want to look for an actual problem, it's that people buy houses they can't really afford all too often. Cars too.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:56:02 AM   
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Many lenders were more liberal in granting these loans from 2004 to 2006 as a result of lower interest rates and high capital liquidity. Lenders sought additional profits through these higher risk loans, and they charged interest rates above prime in order to compensate for the additional risk they assumed. Consequently, once the rate of subprime mortgage foreclosures skyrocketed, many lenders experienced extreme financial difficulties, and even bankruptcy.


And in 2005 those dastardly Republicans tried to reign the growing subprime crisis in but the angelic heavenly god sent Democrats stood up for their base

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Seventeen. That's how many times, according to this White House statement (hat tip Gateway Pundit), that the Bush administration has called for tighter regulation of the government-sponsored enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Congress has cooperated only once. In spring 2007, as House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank likes to point out, the House did pass a bill in response. The Senate did not act until 2008; Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd spent most of 2007 camped out in Iowa running for president. The legislation passed by Congress in 2008 enabled Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to put Fannie and Freddie into federal conservatorship this summer when they failed. But it didn't prevent them from spewing a huge amount of toxic waste, in the form of subprime and Alt-A mortgages, into our financial institutions from 2004 to 2007. As Stephen Spruiell points out in The Corner on National Review Online, Fannie and Freddie spewed out $1 trillion worth (face value) of subprime mortgages between 2005 and 2007. That's a whole lot of toxic waste. For more detail, consult the items referred to in my previous blogpost on this subject (most of the comments seem to have been disputes about the plot line of the movie It's a Wonderful Life, which I should think could be settled by consulting a reference work).

Much if not all of that could have been prevented by a bill cosponsored by John McCain and supported by all the Republicans and opposed by all the Democrats in the Senate Banking Committee in 2005. That bill, which the Democrats stopped from passing, would have prohibited the GSEs from speculating on the mortgage-based securities they packaged. The GSEs' mission allegedly justifying their quasi-governmental status was to package or securitize such mortgages, but the lion's share of their profits—which determined top executives' bonuses—came from speculation.
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/barone/2008/10/06/democrats-were-wrong-on-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac



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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 6:57:34 AM   
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and gaming systems, and ipods, and guns, and silver and gold, and .....

and thats the fiat I arbitrage.  anything you cant eat is fiat. anything you can is fart.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 7:00:49 AM   
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"Financing a home doesn't drive up prices."

I dunno about that. Without financing there is a smaller pool of possible buyers and therefore, less demand.

Oh, and about cars ? Remember cash for clunkers ? People used to have a car they could afford to maintain and was paid off. How they have a ridiculous payment. What's more when a car went to cash for clunkers it was destroyed. I want to know how that made any sense.

Once we paid cash for houses, back when able. But I always pay cash for cars. Always. Not long ago I could've bought a new car on a credit card, but I didn't. I wouldn't.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 7:06:55 AM   
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And less supply.

Go back to before the GI bill and see.

Remember to adjust for inflation. Also consider how/where people were living.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 7:22:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

What nonsense.

Renting and building equity are two different things.

Financing a home doesn't drive up prices.

If you want to look for an actual problem, it's that people buy houses they can't really afford all too often. Cars too.


Not everyone finances their homes in the world- like we do in the US.

Here in the US people even rent furniture.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 7:23:27 AM   
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Not to mention  28% of the home "owners "  are under water.

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RE: Obama Admin Pushing Banks To Offer Subprime Mortgages - 5/12/2011 7:23:28 AM   
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yes, everyone in the world finances homes, where there is industrial civilization.

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