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Rokobilli -> Question on Pets (5/12/2011 7:28:43 PM)

My sub wants a pet human (is there a legit name for a pet human?) If I do decide to look for someone for her should she pick out the one she wants and if I do allow her to have one what are my responsibilities to it or would she be responsible for it and its actions how would that relationship work. If any one has any experience with pets please help.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Question on Pets (5/12/2011 7:30:30 PM)

Just make sure they dont shit in the dining room.




PdxJ -> RE: Question on Pets (5/12/2011 7:53:20 PM)

As everything within the M/s lifestyle - it is up to the participants to negotiate.

However, if I allowed mine to have one - I would take her opinions in to consideration of course but I would be the one to make the final choice as to who.

As far as what your responsibilities would be. . . . . that has a wide range of answers depending on the circumstances.
Are you and your sub 24/7?
Is the pet going to be a permanent part of your home?

If both of those are a yes, then I'd say you are about to gain a lot of responsibility.
If the answer was no to those questions. . . . . . . . lol - I'm not sure. I'd say that would come back to the negotiation between the 3 of you.





LillyBoPeep -> RE: Question on Pets (5/13/2011 8:46:14 AM)

is this pet only going to interact with your s, or are you planning on some involvement with the pet? i've seen alot of those "i'll make the final decision" things turn out badly because the D/M is picking someone with his cock, and not thinking about whether or not his s and the pet he picked would even actually get along, which kinda defeats the purpose. =p so use your best judgment

really, all this stuff is up to you and your sub. you dont have to have any responsibilities towards the pet if you don't want to, or you can. is there any expectation that you're going to be playing with or otherwise interacting with the pet, or is it solely for the sub's enjoyment? is the pet going to be moving in with you, or living separately?
how do you define "pet" in your relationship? for some a "pet" is like a "sister sub" who also interacts with the D/M or the sub's sub, where the sub is solely responsible. =p for others, the "pet" is a kinky play buddy but not really involve in any kind of power exchange things.

it's really all up to you.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Question on Pets (5/13/2011 12:44:44 PM)

If this was a vanilla marriage, and your wife was granted permission to get a pet dog, what areas of responsibilities would feel toward it?  That might be a good starting point. 




leadership527 -> RE: Question on Pets (5/13/2011 2:37:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
If this was a vanilla marriage, and your wife was granted permission to get a pet dog, what areas of responsibilities would feel toward it?  That might be a good starting point. 

DING!

Yup, that.




NuevaVida -> RE: Question on Pets (5/13/2011 3:16:45 PM)

RS and Leadership beat me to it.

If it helps, I have a pet cat.  I'm responsible for his care and feeding and training (yes, I have trained him to a certain degree).  My owner has parameters in which I operate - and that includes the way I operate/manage the cat.  I'm given a lot of leeway with the little guy, because of his importance to me. 

The Mister interacts with the cat, but does not feed him, clean the litter box, or pay the vet bills.  He has tried to discipline him but that proved counterproductive in many ways, so he leaves that to me, the "cat whisperer" lol. 

In other words, my pet, my responsibility, my accountability, all under my owner's patient and understanding oversight.




robertolapiedra -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 8:21:56 AM)

Hello Rokobilli. Not recommended. Odds are you will get blamed for every mishap even if your sub chooses her 'pet-human' .
It is very rare for a sub to suggest this (less for switches) and it wont be long before someone get's paranoid with the ulterior motive thingy...

I had a sub once who suggested something similar to me (I think she was mind gaming me a little and not very serious) and I instantly had all sort of kinky flashes in my brain. Being quite the voyeur, I imagined her with another woman. She told me she fantasized having a boy toy while having me order her to play with him. I asked her if she would enjoy a girl toy instead. She gave me the ''who do you think I am'' look as she was very refractive to girl on girl play. I gave her my ''who do you think I am look'' and told her that boys were a turn off for me, especially in her fantasy setting of having a female sub dom a male sub whilst being dommed by me. The pet fantasy never came up again after this conversation.

My present sub of ten years (married) would accept occasional play except she would refuse to dom or be dommed by another sub. She would accept co-subbing play only. I guessed she did not have the ''pet human'' kink. Even if she would be very obedient and non hesitant in the interaction, it was simple compliance no more. That too was a turn off for me, and it was taken out of her repertoire. It was obvious that she had a hard time sharing the ''attention'' and felt miserable after the scene.

I always say that kink is supposed to be fun. If in a fantasy everything is fun, in reality it is never as perfect. If I were you, I would have a conversation with your sub putting things in more concrete terms. If everything is still ok, I would start out with light play with no actual sex involved. This should give you a better idea about the reality and the direction you should take this. Good luck. RL.






leadership527 -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 9:52:41 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
He has tried to discipline him but that proved counterproductive in many ways, so he leaves that to me, the "cat whisperer" lol. 

He tried to discipline a cat??? *blinks* huh?

Gee, and here now I'd been forming this really positive impression of your owner but this makes me wonder about his grasp on reality. ~grin~




NuevaVida -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 9:56:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
He has tried to discipline him but that proved counterproductive in many ways, so he leaves that to me, the "cat whisperer" lol. 

He tried to discipline a cat??? *blinks* huh?

Gee, and here now I'd been forming this really positive impression of your owner but this makes me wonder about his grasp on reality. ~grin~



LOL!!  He swatted him (kind of hard) off the night stand and I went ballistic.  [;)]

Believe it or not, I've trained the little guy (the cat, not the Mister, lol) to behave pretty darn well now.  It was pretty simple, once I did my research.  Much simpler than me going nutters on the Mister and the cat getting skittish and the Mister wondering what the hell he got himself into with us.  [8D]

We're all one big happy family now.  They've bonded, finally, and really like each other.




leadership527 -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 10:20:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
and the Mister wondering what the hell he got himself into with us.  [8D]

He got himself into a situation where he owns a woman who "owns" a cat. The proper way to view this situation is that mastering you is the warm-up round for mastering the cat. I can only imagine that when the cat went off the nightstand it went something like this.

You: Ballistic.
Master: Satisfied the cat is off the nightstand, worried about you now.
Cat: Lands on floor, blinks, takes a bath to show it's studied indifference to all humans.




NuevaVida -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 10:30:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

You: Ballistic.
Master: Satisfied the cat is off the nightstand, worried about you now.
Cat: Lands on floor, blinks, takes a bath to show it's studied indifference to all humans.



Ha!  More like:

Me:  Ballistic
Him:  Wondering "WTF? It's just a cat, and he's fine! (and no longer on the night stand)
Me:  Still ballistic
Cat:  Bewildered, runs off, acts indignant, but becomes skittish around the Mister
Him:  Tries to laugh it off
Me:  Now way over on the other side of the bed
Him:  Pulls me to him to calm me
Me:  Grumbles and makes comparisons to me swatting his daughter (not that she's ever climbed up on the night stand)

End result:  Conversation about my need to keep a peaceful home with no one (even the cat) in fear. My offering to figure out how to teach the cat to behave, his agreeing, my actually succeeding at (mostly) teaching the cat to behave, and everybody's happy.  He sees results, he likes the cat now, the cat likes him, and I love them both.  Life is good. [;)]

OK so we've probably really deterred from the OP, but maybe it can serve as an example of slave owning a pet and what the slave owner's involvement is gong to be - - which should be figured out in advance.




slaveluci -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 12:20:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida
He has tried to discipline him but that proved counterproductive in many ways, so he leaves that to me, the "cat whisperer" lol. 

He tried to discipline a cat??? *blinks* huh?

Gee, and here now I'd been forming this really positive impression of your owner but this makes me wonder about his grasp on reality. ~grin~


[sm=rofl.gif] My thoughts exactly, leadership! Glad it's all working out now, NuevaVida. We have one older cat and two young ones and no one here...including Master....masters any of them[8D]

luci




NuevaVida -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 1:17:04 PM)

[:D]




Rokobilli -> RE: Question on Pets (5/14/2011 8:14:28 PM)

Thanks everyone my sub does not mind having a male or female pet. she just wants to have someone to take care of. I would prefer to get her a female cause guys tend to try to declare dominance and I don't feel like dealing with that. Does anyone have a human pet that can share some experience?




MasterSlaveLA -> RE: Question on Pets (5/15/2011 12:47:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rokobilli

My sub wants a pet human (is there a legit name for a pet human?)



I prefer the name "Fluffy".

[;)][:D]





DesFIP -> RE: Question on Pets (5/15/2011 2:12:01 PM)

If this is her pet, then the relationship will be between the two of them. You may not be invited to join in. Most people object to bait and switch as a supposed mistress who then announces that her dom is actually in charge is indeed lying about what the relationship will be.

If you're talking about her being alpha and you folks having a third, good luck. You'll be looking for years.




SailingBum -> RE: Question on Pets (5/16/2011 12:01:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

quote:

ORIGINAL: leadership527




Ha!  More like:

Me:  Ballistic
Him:  Wondering "WTF? It's just a cat, and he's fine! (and no longer on the night stand)
Me:  Still ballistic
Cat:  Bewildered, runs off, acts indignant, but becomes skittish around the Mister
Him:  Tries to laugh it off
Me:  Now way over on the other side of the bed
Him:  Pulls me to him to calm me
Me:  Grumbles and makes comparisons to me swatting his daughter (not that she's ever climbed up on the night stand)




Great story still laffing at your reaction to a pet that wont obey. The issue was you can't control your cat from misbehaving ie being a cat. From my POV if you can't/won't control cat,kid, whatfuckingever I will. Pets of any kind do not belong on the furniture.

You can reason with a kid try that with a pet sometime

BadOne




NuevaVida -> RE: Question on Pets (5/16/2011 12:28:26 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Great story still laffing at your reaction to a pet that wont obey. The issue was you can't control your cat from misbehaving ie being a cat. From my POV if you can't/won't control cat,kid, whatfuckingever I will. Pets of any kind do not belong on the furniture.

You can reason with a kid try that with a pet sometime

BadOne



Hey there, cats actually can be trained and mine has since been trained to stay off the night stand.  I didn't have to swat him to do that. There are certain cat'isms that will simply be, because he's a cat, of course.  But he's very well behaved now, once I learned how to teach him.

Now the house is peaceful, and everyone gets along quite nicely.




theRose4U -> RE: Question on Pets (5/18/2011 3:51:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rokobilli

Thanks everyone my sub does not mind having a male or female pet. she just wants to have someone to take care of. I would prefer to get her a female cause guys tend to try to declare dominance and I don't feel like dealing with that. Does anyone have a human pet that can share some experience?


Um WTF if you're a dominant...THAT SHOULD BE YOU!!!! If she has time to fill a job or volunteering usually do nicely.

As for what and how it really depends on how she defines a pet and what she plans to do with it. No different than a child asking for a pet...what's involved in a hampster and what's involved in a monitor lizard are very different though both TECHNICALLY are approved when you answer yes to "can I please have a pet".

Is she asking you for a sub sister as help/ companion?
Is she looking for her own sub to try topping?
How does she define a pet? Someone into furry? dog/horse/cat play? another sub?

In my mind you've said "my girl likes ice cream" does anyone know why? Well hell, flavor, motivation, reason, when, why, and how are all blanks needing filled in there too.




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