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RE: Who do you owe for your education ? - 5/15/2011 12:19:36 AM

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Education is an ongoing thing for me. I learn all the time and am grateful about that. My moms was a Montessori teacher so I learned to read and write perty darn young. I didnt like school, I have a natural predilection to loathe corporate crap. I hate fluorescent lighting. I went to Catholic school til grade five and some of the nuns were evil. Teachers have saved my life time to time, there is nothing like a good teacher but I also find them outside the classroom at all ages including animals and birds.

My parents could not shoot me cash but they helped me in ways they could. I went to school to become a teacher but realized the present system would kill me so I decided to waitress instead. If I had the where with all, I would gut a church and make it into a cool school. I loathe that here in Canada we have virtually no funding for Art/Culture education, it slays me. WTF? People sell bs and call it art and other people dont know the difference because there is no one there to educate them otherwise.

Our education system is getting better in some ways and worse in others. Life is an education. Too often the school system has been used to create unhealthy things and support unhealthy more things. It ought not be that way and maybe one day it will be gooder.

Teachers are either wannabe's or really passionate about what they do and are vital to our world. I remember when I was studying painting at uni our prof would go off on some of the kids planning to be teachers and say things like, "I would not ever want my children anywhere near you!" I loved it, he called it like it was. He was a really good teacher.

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RE: Thanking Obama! - 5/15/2011 12:36:23 AM

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"Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like going into McDonalds and thanking Ronald McDonald for the hamburger. It's the guy cooking the burger that should get the credit, not the clown."

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RE: Thanking Obama! - 5/15/2011 1:12:28 AM

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RE: Thanking Obama! - 5/15/2011 3:00:37 PM

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We are People of the Book. Education matters to us. But practically, my father paid for it all. Good prep school, good college. He would have been thrilled if I had decided to go for a doctorate. He also set up college funds for all the grandkids. And he paid a lot of college expenses for most of my Israeli cousins whose parents couldn't afford it.

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RE: Who do you owe for your education ? - 5/16/2011 8:37:29 AM

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"I went to school to become a teacher but realized the present system would kill me"

You're not the only one. I couldn't even hack being a student.

I don't know just how to put it, but for one being in school is being in an institution. Someone like me could never handle that, I'd rather be in jail. In fact I almost decided to beat the shit out of a truant officer once, which would have accomplished that quite nicely.

But now that this thread is going, I have to consider just what I consider education. OK I learned reading and writing and rithmatic before school but that and a couple bucks might get you a McD's fish sandwich.

Now I just came up with an idea and I need a computer programmer to implement it. A guy sends me an impressive resume', well that's just fine. I mailed him back because this is like a contract job. It will take me, and one other to get it done. Once patented I already have the connections for production and distribution, and we will just collect what boils down to residuals. For how long I don't know, but money is money.

Also understand that I am a dinosaur. I understand the fundamentals of electronic engineering, which seems to be lacking these days. This little niche might make me some bucks. I know the market, how and to whom to market it, and most of what will be involved in production. That's my little niche. The programmer has his niche and that gets him into the deal. We both have our functions. Once done we are done. The prototype, the patent, I can handle that. Afterwards I'll probably get ahold of Bob Parker, and that will open up the worldwide market. Not bad for a dropout.

But the origional question, I will address. Who do I owe ? Mrs. Sanger from the fifth grade ? Mr. Lasky the electronics teacher ? Who ?

And who else in those classes owes those people ? What if they did nothing with the knowledge imparted ? Do they owe ? What if my little pet project turns into a multi-million dollar pot of gold ? Do I owe then, because I used the knowledge ? Or is it mine ? Do I owe the taxpayerzs ? The lunch Lady ? The Principal who threw me out of school for not going to school ? He did me more good than most, because I went to work and learned more there in a year than I had in my entire wasted time in their institution.

That is the crux of the question. Do I owe my first employer for hiring me without any professional experience, for giving me that chance ?

Or is knowledge something that should not be counted as a tangible in an economic sense ? And as such, do we (as I believe) owe the young whatever knowledge we can impart, just as something like overhead for being a member of the human race ?

If a child asks you a question to which you know the answer, what do you do ? What should you do ? Should you answer truthfully, or like some lie, refuse to answer, or either joke about it or call the kid stupid ?

What are we ?

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RE: Thanking Obama! - 5/16/2011 11:30:11 AM

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"Thanking Obama for killing Bin Laden is like going into McDonalds and thanking Ronald McDonald for the hamburger. It's the guy cooking the burger that should get the credit, not the clown."

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Putz.

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Who do you owe for your education? - 5/16/2011 11:38:59 AM

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As for the OP.........I don't feel I owe anyone, anything. As a child I fought getting a formal education tooth and nail. I hated school. My parents were too busy with their own life issues to make any effort. It was only because I disliked the fuss misbehaving created, that I went to school for as long as I did, and got the grades that I got. I left school to marry and have babies when I was 16 and never returned to a formal education. For myself, personally, I didn't even see any value in a GED. I knew I could pass the tests so why bother wasting the money.

BUT........I have always loved to learn. I've always read a lot. I've always asked questions, loved spending time around people that know more than me, and I have always sought out information on a wide variety of things, from where ever I can find it.

But no, I don't owe anyone at all.

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RE: Who do you owe for your education ? - 5/16/2011 12:49:33 PM

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The one responsible for my childhood education:

My grandmother who had a teaching degree. I knew how to read before I started kindergarten and knew enough to pass the GED at age 14.

What is responsible for my lack of higher education:

General education courses required by colleges that have nothing to do with the major. For anyone with humiliation phobia, public speaking is extremely terrifying. Also, some people excel in most subjects, but have problems with one or two. A student could get A's and B's in every other subject but fail to get a degree simply because they can't understand advanced math. When I was in my early 30's, I finally worked up the courage to face and conquer public speaking. So far I'm unable to understand much beyond basic math (which I can easily figure without a calculator). I'm trying, but algebra may end up costing me my financial aid.

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RE: Who do you owe for your education ? - 5/16/2011 5:10:42 PM

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My mother was an educator and my father the valedictorian of not only a major university, but also it's law school, we were taught, we were read to, we had expectations put upon us to succeed.

My mother was VERY involved in a professional manner with the education system in the state I grew up in and my teachers knew it, guess how much I could get away with!

I owe them both for all they did but, I owe them more for caring enough to teach me how to learn and then to have the expectation that I would and that I should.

In my undergraduate years I had 2 years of full scholarship, and my graduate school was total scholarship, thank you kindly to those people who wanted to help others continue their educations and supported those scholarships.

Aside from the formal education, thanks to many that wished to share their stories with a very young and inquisitive fellow who would ask questions, (continually) then sit and listen to the answers long enough to have another question....and another....and another!

Then there was this unbelievably wise older woman that would sit in a boat and fish with me, she would impart the wisdom of ages in between trying hard to catch more fish than me, which she usually did!
Thanks Grandma, and if you were still here, you could probably still catch more fish than me!

I still learn everyday and I am more than thankful that I can.

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