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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 11:26:43 AM

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You better!!!

To address your OP, yes they are technically masculine/feminine synonyms. As to their usage around here, well I'm sorry, but I find either to be somewhat laughable.

I think it shows great insecurity on one's part to give themselves some grandiose title. Even when talking to people on the other side or in chat, I dislike being called any title, even "Sir" is a little annoying. I usually tell them not to call me that unless they really mean it. When they tell me its a sign of respect, I usually remind them that I haven't done anything to earn or deserve that respect at that point.

Oddly enough a lot of subs dislike addressing me by name.

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 11:32:51 AM

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Fuck all that "you have to earn it" shit. There is no governing body of BDSM.

Nice hat. Did you buy that at the store?

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 11:50:39 AM

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Fuck all that "you have to earn it" shit. There is no governing body of BDSM.

Nice hat. Did you buy that at the store?

Ooooooooo...cat fight!!!!! My money's on the redhead!!!

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 12:26:17 PM

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My money is ALWAYS on the red head ... is that hairism?

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 5:25:56 PM

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I am a Master only in a M/s relationship, which I myself consider to be a Lifestyle as opposed to role play or play. I'm with what Resident Sadist posted in this regard. If I'm playing with somebody that I'm not in a D/s or M/s relationship with. I'm just a Dominant topping somebody for a little while, and I'm anything but their Master for real.

The whole business about Earning the title Master, while I understand, I myself have a certain disdain for it personally. I don't need to earn anybody's permission to Own or be somebody's Master, besides myself and whoever I'm the Master of.

Being Master, Dom or otherwise in charge means being captain of my ship. My Style of being in charge might differ from others Style. I will assure anybody, I am a human being with my own set of strengths and weaknesses.

Personally, It means far more to hear 'Master' coming from the lips of somebody I own... as opposed to hearing it roll off the tongues of every Tom, Dick, Jane and Harry in a BDSM community.

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/21/2011 9:00:38 PM

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Let's see carry the one minus the five times infinity by George it is!

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/22/2011 8:06:17 AM

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BTW, women cannot be Masters, only men can be Master's . . . except in the lesbian gay community where it refers to women in a man's role.

If the bullshit gets spread any higher and deeper, I'd be tempted to plant corn.

Mastery is not gendered. It is simply mastery, whether of a craft, a skill, a field of knowledge, of yourself or of another person. It would be ridiculous to say that someone is a mistress falconer, or a mistress carpenter, or a mistress pottery maker, whether they are male or female. If they have mastered their craft, then they are a master falconer, a master carpenter, a master pottery maker. Their accomplishments not less because they are female, and they do not deserve to be disrespected by a title that does not connote the mastery that they have achieved.

Skill and knowledge is not the exclusive domain of people with penises, despite the frantic hand-wringing of insecure folks who see everything as a competition and jealously defend their little corners.

I see little boys building forts and putting up signs that say "No Gurlz Allowd". And it's very silly.

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/22/2011 10:43:15 AM

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As for leather, remember that all too many leather families and even groups are made up of co-dependent dysfunctional people no better/worse than any average group of people from CM.

So because you were awarded your title/cover by a bunch of nitwits doesn't make it any better than some 23 year old who calls himself master. Sometimes that 23 actually makes his partners happy and they still think fondly of him years later, a feat quite a few "leather" people have yet to "master".

Michael, it is posts like this that always give me reason to wonder just why exactly you are so insecure that you constantly have to attempt to ridicule and tear down things that do not fit your idea of perfection. All while trying to build up your own experiences as being the perfection everyone else should strive for.

The "why" matters not, as this is typical of the "insecure"... because they are so weak, they know they cannot stand on their own merits -- and as such, in order to elevate themselves, must denegrate others. The irony is, their attempts only denegrate themselves. The insecure are quite "simply" just that... insecure.

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/22/2011 10:47:41 AM

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BTW, women cannot be Masters, only men can be Master's . . . except in the lesbian gay community where it refers to women in a man's role.

If the bullshit gets spread any higher and deeper, I'd be tempted to plant corn... Skill and knowledge is not the exclusive domain of people with penises, despite the frantic hand-wringing of insecure folks who see everything as a competition and jealously defend their little corners.

Very true. Though I will add, for many, "Mistress" is often used as an honorific.

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RE: Is Mistress the feminine form of Master? - 5/22/2011 1:12:32 PM

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It's all about context - within some communities there's a clear definition that carries certain requirements and prerequsites.

I think in most cases it's self appointed, and that's perfectly ok - Just as it's perfectly ok for me to snigger on those occasions when I encounter some want-witted buffoon parading around as "Master this or that".

Personally, I would never expect anyone to call me master, sir or by any other "honorific". I was about go further and say that I'd actually prefer never to be called "master" but I've had a correspondence with someone who chooses to refer to me as master and I regard it as politeness on her part so I appreciate the politeness.

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