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Edwynn -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 10:40:37 AM)




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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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The record shows that a market economy can work quite well in a socialist country, if we look at the pertinent economic data. One thing that helps is that those countries have a much better handle on keeping corporate employees and lobbyists out of the government itself.



Unregulated free markets and neoliberal economic policies are NOT socialistic in nature




Please note the terminology there. An economic system can be either a centrally planned economy or a market economy or a mix of both (e.g. China). A so-called 'free market' is a very loose, ill-defined  and misused term, which is why I never use it.

A market economy is simply a system where the markets (buyers and sellers of everything) determine what is produced and what is bought/used, and allocation of resources is directed thuswise.

It's true that some (of the many) explanations  or supposed 'definitions' of "market economy" consider the term "free market" to be interchangeable, but the academic world in any case makes a clear distinction between the two.

Though there be a less precise definition of "free market" it is generally meant to assume little or no regulation. But no matter how tightly or thoroughly regulated, if there is no central authority directing what or how much is to be produced, then it's a market economy.

Even in the case of state ownership of something like power plants, the markets still determine how much is produced by way of usage.









juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 10:43:15 AM)

I did specify what I meant by a "free market" economy... I have specified on several occasions what the IMF has done in regards to dominating poor developing countries in several posts on this thread. If you have not read those posts, I would suggest you go back and familiarize what I have stated, instead of having me repeatedly state it in every single post.




Edwynn -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 10:56:11 AM)


I have read all the posts. I was responding to the latest one, which appeared to be responding to the prior post's mention of 'market economy' by explaining that 'free markets' are not socialist in nature (which was never claimed).

Sorry if I misunderstood.













juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 11:07:17 AM)

It is hard to boil down concepts like socialism and economics in one post, or even one thread....


I find it is all too easy for people to take a word and misconstrue its meaning based upon their own cultural constructs...

For example, most rational people do not think that the Nazis were socialists just because they called themselves "The National Socialist Party". Most thoughtful people do not think that the USSR was a republic like the United States because they called themselves Union of Soviet Socialist Republic.... these words have vastly different implications based upon how and when they are used.....




flcouple2009 -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 11:41:12 AM)

Julia,

You have to remember who you are talking to.

These are some of the same posters who claim that people living outside the US don't understand and shouldn't comment on what goes on here.  But are perfectly willing to explain how things operate and the meanings of groups and names in other countries.






juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/17/2011 11:43:59 AM)

True




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 10:46:40 AM)

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Coulter on the socialist rapist:

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TO LIBERALS, EVERY WOMAN LOOKS LIKE A HOTEL MAID



I suppose we'll know the truth when the DNA testing comes back, but close observers of privileged liberal men are not shocked by the accusations against Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the socialist head of the International Monetary Fund. (And you thought you were getting screwed by your banker!)

Only in Hollywood movies are handsome lacrosse players from nice families seen as likely rapists. In real life, they look more like the 5-foot-2-inch Roman Polanski or pudgy, unathletic Bill Clinton -- or the homunculus 5-foot-2-inch Strauss-Kahn.

But, it is argued, how could Strauss-Kahn possibly think he could get away with the violent rape of a chambermaid in a $3,000-a-night hotel room, booked in his name?

First of all, Strauss-Kahn has evidently gotten away with treating the fairer sex as his playthings for some time. No wonder his nickname among the French is "le grand seducteur," which I believe roughly translates to "the short, tubby serial rapist."

Full commentary here: http://www.anncoulter.com/





juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 10:48:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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Coulter on the socialist rapist:

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TO LIBERALS, EVERY WOMAN LOOKS LIKE A HOTEL MAID



I suppose we'll know the truth when the DNA testing comes back, but close observers of privileged liberal men are not shocked by the accusations against Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the socialist head of the International Monetary Fund. (And you thought you were getting screwed by your banker!)

Only in Hollywood movies are handsome lacrosse players from nice families seen as likely rapists. In real life, they look more like the 5-foot-2-inch Roman Polanski or pudgy, unathletic Bill Clinton -- or the homunculus 5-foot-2-inch Strauss-Kahn.

But, it is argued, how could Strauss-Kahn possibly think he could get away with the violent rape of a chambermaid in a $3,000-a-night hotel room, booked in his name?

First of all, Strauss-Kahn has evidently gotten away with treating the fairer sex as his playthings for some time. No wonder his nickname among the French is "le grand seducteur," which I believe roughly translates to "the short, tubby serial rapist."

Full commentary here: http://www.anncoulter.com/




All I can say is that anyone who would post the garbage that she prints is indeed deeply hateful




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 10:50:28 AM)


And you do know hateful, dont you

Another paragraph from Ms. Coulters commentary:

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Second, it's not unheard of that a wealthy liberal would assume the law does not apply to him. Actually, let me restate that: Wealthy liberals always assume that laws don't apply to them. After all the waivers the Obama administration has been dishing out like candy, are there any liberals left to whom Obamacare will apply?





mnottertail -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 10:55:06 AM)

There are less wealthy liberals then there were far right conservative nazis in germany.

Just for non sequiturial comparison purposes, since Coulter is a typical right wing anecdotal ranting slobbering cunt, devoid of truth, reason, logic, she just picks her ignorant ragefilled ideas out of her psychotic mind and passes them off as fact or real example to other people of feeble minds, who don't know fact from fiction.




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 10:56:26 AM)


I like this line:

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As Schlafly says, no wonder liberal women think men are pigs: Their men are pigs.





mnottertail -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:00:21 AM)

Yeah, no wonder rightwing mens public homosexual escapades, or public manifold affairs are constantly in the news. 

After all, we know they have no social agenda, and they claim it. 




juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:05:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I like this line:

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As Schlafly says, no wonder liberal women think men are pigs: Their men are pigs.




I do not think men are pigs, and the men I have involved myself with since I was in my late 20s were anything but...

Those who seek to reduce people to their political ideology... the biggest pigs of all.... and that makes Ann Coulter and her band of merry followers nothing but porkers




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:06:37 AM)


Are you implying that being gay is like raping an aids carrying chambermaid

Leftists are so intolerant...

Oh - did I mention -

Turns out the chambermaid most likely had aids by the way


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, no wonder rightwing mens public homosexual escapades, or public manifold affairs are constantly in the news. 

After all, we know they have no social agenda, and they claim it. 




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:08:18 AM)


Thats hysterical, considering that mnots answer to everything is to bash gay republicans

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I do not think men are pigs, and the men I have involved myself with since I was in my late 20s were anything but...

Those who seek to reduce people to their political ideology... the biggest pigs of all.... and that makes Ann Coulter and her band of merry followers nothing but porkers





juliaoceania -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:10:13 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats hysterical, considering that mnots answer to everything is to bash gay republicans

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I do not think men are pigs, and the men I have involved myself with since I was in my late 20s were anything but...

Those who seek to reduce people to their political ideology... the biggest pigs of all.... and that makes Ann Coulter and her band of merry followers nothing but porkers




Man up and take responsibility for what you post instead of saying "But he posted something worse!".... geesh, dude, are you seven yrs old, or what?




mnottertail -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 11:15:52 AM)

Not at all, I just thought that since you enjoy clever asswipe, I would hand you a load.

Are you implying that slimy far right are tolerant in that their hatred is a pure hatred based solely on ideology without regard to truth and that makes their hateful asswipe clever repartee but the opposite and like witty repartee is reprehensible?

Impugn your own actions, you have many to cleanse yourself of, don't follow me around anklebiting in your obsession and attack the messenger, derailing constantly and deflecting since you have no actual fact and cannot debate the message, and projecting the rights miserable hatred and self-absorbed imbecility on those who if you would look around you with an eye towards truth and logic and reality have to climb a great distance to ascend to their level.




Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 12:02:08 PM)


I didnt write anything like "he posted something worse" julia

You simply dont understand the joke, sorry

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Man up and take responsibility for what you post instead of saying "But he posted something worse!".... geesh, dude, are you seven yrs old, or what?





Sanity -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 12:05:35 PM)


You forgot nothingness, mnot

Hollow ad hominems too...

[:D]

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Not at all, I just thought that since you enjoy clever asswipe, I would hand you a load.

Are you implying that slimy far right are tolerant in that their hatred is a pure hatred based solely on ideology without regard to truth and that makes their hateful asswipe clever repartee but the opposite and like witty repartee is reprehensible?

Impugn your own actions, you have many to cleanse yourself of, don't follow me around anklebiting in your obsession and attack the messenger, derailing constantly and deflecting since you have no actual fact and cannot debate the message, and projecting the rights miserable hatred and self-absorbed imbecility on those who if you would look around you with an eye towards truth and logic and reality have to climb a great distance to ascend to their level.




mnottertail -> RE: IMF Chief Arrested On Rape Charges (5/19/2011 12:12:23 PM)

I will never descend to your level.

But look, you need some new material, your schtick is getting so old we need to bury it.

BTW, 'hollow ad hominem' is actually oxymoronic as well as an awkward pleonasm.

In short, inept. 

Try to make your language more picturesque rather than exclusively adumbrated.

Just a helpful hint.




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