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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/23/2011 4:39:13 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Ideas exist... yet they arent things.


constructively, not tangibly

you cant put an idea in a bottle and send it to me.

an idea cannot "act"

only a "thing" can act  even if only at a molecular level








< Message edited by Real0ne -- 5/23/2011 4:41:09 PM >

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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/23/2011 4:44:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

That word can be used in many ways...

So perhaps we were all right?


"person" for instance is an aggregation, it does not exist.  (ecept by construction.

You can operate in or under a "persona" that being your "title" for instance.

You are real, the rest is purely abstract and does not exist.


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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/23/2011 11:04:47 PM   
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you cant put an idea in a bottle and send it to me.


Yo stuffed animal... give me about 89 0 100k and I'll send you an idea in a bottle

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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/23/2011 11:10:37 PM   
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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/24/2011 7:21:44 AM   
Real0ne


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photons are things,  matter and energy are things

ideas and constructs are not.


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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/24/2011 7:25:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed they are, for proof I will say one word;  book. And you are undone.

See, when we go about learning the color green, we point out examples and hope you catch on, because we can't usefully describe it casually.   And we know that there is a concrete thing there because ( other than those of profoundly damaged circumstances) we can separate those people and have them point out green unerringly.



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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/24/2011 12:17:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
photons are things

Or possibly they're just waves in some other thing.

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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/24/2011 4:52:31 PM   
Real0ne


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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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RE: Stephen Hawking: There is no heaven; it's a fairy s... - 5/24/2011 4:53:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Indeed they are, for proof I will say one word;  book. And you are undone.

See, when we go about learning the color green, we point out examples and hope you catch on, because we can't usefully describe it casually.   And we know that there is a concrete thing there because ( other than those of profoundly damaged circumstances) we can separate those people and have them point out green unerringly.




try a verb next time LOL


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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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