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Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep it i... - 5/18/2011 8:03:56 AM   
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I did a google search for sex slavery in the United States because it is a huge human rights issue that is currently going on here. I found scant news on the topic in the last year. It is an epidemic around the country in every mid sized and large city you can think of. There have been documentaries about it, there have been many arrests being made, but yet it still flourishes here.... why? Because we pretty much do not give a fuck about prostitutes in this country, that's why.


The laws against pandering and pimping are extraordinarily lax, the bad guys continually get away, or they pay their way out of it. We just don't care. The other part of this? The men that go to these places for some exotic "Asian" sex, even knowing these women do not have a choice, are the root of the problem. And there must be a lot of men out there that don't give a fuck, because business is booming.


There are a lot of decent American men out there who would never use one of these establishments, but there are a hell of a lot that willingly, knowingly, and with total disregard that do.

So, our legal system is complicit because they know it is happening, and yet remain so-called powerless to do dick about it, and a great number of men are furthering this human rights abuse right here in the United States.

Pull the mote out of your own eye before you rag on the mote in your neighbor's. I really do not want to hear about how what a goodly number of American men are doing can be "justified" by what people do in other parts of the world...

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:12:36 AM   
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I'm glad this isn't a piece for your classes. Good Lord.

Explain to me how the actions of some criminals equates to your thread title. If America needs to wake up and address this criminal activity, is that a social problem for the entire population, involving the effort of our female and male citizens alike?

Would you start an illegal immigration thread with "Why can't Mexican men put them on the bus?"

But OK. You have a rant. Thanks for keeping it short anyway.

Now what's the solution?

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:21:21 AM   
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It is a response to I do not want to have a Muslim mother.

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:27:04 AM   
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What is it that makes you think that American men in particular are any better or worse than men of any other nationality in this regard?


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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:28:25 AM   
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I actually don't, I just wanted to see what the reaction would be.... so far it is what I was expecting

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:29:54 AM   
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didnt the prime minister actually make it much more difficult for these guys to acquire asian wives a few years back because the trafficking was getting so out of hand?

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:33:31 AM   
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quote:

Now what's the solution?


To this question?

I think we could perhaps have some sort of mechanism in place to give these women new identities, economic help, a path away from fear from those who are making them slaves. Some sort of sex slave witness protection program, if they help prosecute their slavers. I would also say that if someone can be found to have been slaving here, they should get a life sentence.... screw 'em, it is a heinous crime.

As far as the men who go to these establishments... I would say that we need to increase the penalties, but seriously, I think we need to legalize and regulate prostitution because of the diseases, etc. it would be a way to make our communities safer, too... and it might take the motivation from importing sex slaves into the US at all

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:35:08 AM   
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didnt the prime minister actually make it much more difficult for these guys to acquire asian wives a few years back because the trafficking was getting so out of hand?



Prime Minister? We have one of those?

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:47:32 AM   
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wasnt it the Philippines?

I thought they passed legislation that the girls that came here had to come back and that the guys had to get married there and a host of other things to make it more difficult for the pimps with promises to commercialize them?

Of course governments think nothing of their own flavor of slavery...which is imo equally as bad.






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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:50:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I did a google search for sex slavery in the United States because it is a huge human rights issue that is currently going on here. I found scant news on the topic in the last year. It is an epidemic around the country in every mid sized and large city you can think of. There have been documentaries about it, there have been many arrests being made, but yet it still flourishes here.... why? Because we pretty much do not give a fuck about prostitutes in this country, that's why.


The laws against pandering and pimping are extraordinarily lax, the bad guys continually get away, or they pay their way out of it. We just don't care. The other part of this? The men that go to these places for some exotic "Asian" sex, even knowing these women do not have a choice, are the root of the problem. And there must be a lot of men out there that don't give a fuck, because business is booming.


There are a lot of decent American men out there who would never use one of these establishments, but there are a hell of a lot that willingly, knowingly, and with total disregard that do.

So, our legal system is complicit because they know it is happening, and yet remain so-called powerless to do dick about it, and a great number of men are furthering this human rights abuse right here in the United States.

Pull the mote out of your own eye before you rag on the mote in your neighbor's. I really do not want to hear about how what a goodly number of American men are doing can be "justified" by what people do in other parts of the world...

Actually, it is a world-wide epidemic. It started becoming worse in the 70's. One of the causes is loans to developing countries and the transnational movement of companies from developed to developing countries for a workforce.

Gendered cultures and economic inequity are also causes.

While all systems of commercial activity differ because of various conditions, the supply and demand of women and children for sex is explicitly linked to gender. As many scholars have noted, the sex industry itself is a perfect example of gendered consumption patterns. Men hold most of the world’s wealth and men want sex. Women comprise most of the world’s poor and women want money to survive. Thus, the demands of men for sexual services are provided by women and by children in this gendered economic system. (Chang, Grace. “Global Exchange: The World Bank, ‘Welfare Reform,’ and the Trade in Migrant Women.” Disposable Domestics: Immigrant Women Workers in the Global Economy. Cambridge, MA: South End Press, 2000.)

Julia, you should also look at the role that the World Bank and the World Trade Organization has played in the increase of sexual slavery.

Saying that the cause is that men cannot keep it in their pants and legalizing prostitution is the solution is far too simplistic and does not address the actual problems and causes of sex trafficking.

With a bit of research you can do much better.



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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:52:14 AM   
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The phenomenon of men wanting to put their cocks in holes is not unique to American men,
it's actually the reason why there is still a human race, and is a very good thing.

Human trafficking is on every industrialized nations hot list of issues. Including America's.

Sexual slavery has always existed. Will always exist.
This is different then prostitution, the consumers dont want a willing prostitute, they want a slave, a forced slave.
The demand would have to go away for sexual slavery to end.
Maybe this desire will evolve out of humankind, maybe not,
but as long as theri is demand, there will be someone profiting from the supply side.


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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:57:29 AM   
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It is an industry that flourishes because of the discrepancy between demand and supply.

Industries are a source of revenue and are protected. Most of the money presumably flows to three letter organizations and secret (government) projects.

What to do about it? Send all men into monasteries.

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 8:58:28 AM   
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A couple of points :

A sex slave is not a protitute in that a " prostitute " choses to make her living with her body. A sex slave is forced against her will and coirced and threatened.

Sex slavery, as with other types of slavery, is a Civil Rights/Federal crime. It does not fall under prostitution/pimping laws. It is usually prosecuted by the DOJ, not local authorities/courts. The DOJ has a hotline set up for this very problem, well, all types of slavery/involuntary servitude, but sex slavery falls under it. Two major slavery cases, one in 1978 and one in 1992 got alot of National press and since then local law enforcement has been dedicating more personnel and Congress is considering expanding statutes on slavery. So while we are not doing great, we are doing more than most countries that have the highest rates of human bondage.

I work with an Abolitionist group, and I speak on the problems of slavery in the US, I usually speak with others from other parts of the world. So.. nooo.... I will point my fingers and criticize and rag on any one from any country that encourages, endorses or is involved with any type of human slavery. Your position seems to be.... you can't say anything against another country because the problem exists here..... yea you can... if you are consistant. And to ignore the fact that most slavery rings and individual cases of slavery are perpetrated by non Americans is turning a blind eye. And yes, I hear you that American men and woman, by engaging in this service < for lack of better word > are as bad and as complicit as the ones who " own " the slaves. But one does not cancel the other out.

If you think that your own backyard has to to perfectly manicured before you can address what is a global issue, than I feel sad for you. Just because it happens here makes it no less a crime against humanity when it happens in Saudi Arabia, Thailand or the Sudan.

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:01:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
I think we need to legalize and regulate prostitution because of the diseases, etc. it would be a way to make our communities safer, too...

Diseases are good: 1. they cause resistance against those diseases to evolve, and 2. they remove the predilection to visit a prostitute- genotypes from the gene pool.

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:01:55 AM   
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I think Julia you have made your point only too well



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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:03:24 AM   
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Please look at my response to musicmystery for the reasons as to why I started this thread with the title that I gave it.


and thanks for the information about sex slavery

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:04:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PetiteOralSub

The phenomenon of men wanting to put their cocks in holes is not unique to American men,
it's actually the reason why there is still a human race, and is a very good thing.

Human trafficking is on every industrialized nations hot list of issues. Including America's.

Sexual slavery has always existed. Will always exist.
This is different then prostitution, the consumers dont want a willing prostitute, they want a slave, a forced slave.
The demand would have to go away for sexual slavery to end.
Maybe this desire will evolve out of humankind, maybe not,
but as long as theri is demand, there will be someone profiting from the supply side.



That is part of it, but the main theme is that they want "disposable" people and or people they can do things with that would ordinarily land them in prison even in their own country.   It seems to be a fad now days.

remember dyncorp?

slave trafficking is a rather deep topic with many variants


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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:04:49 AM   
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I think Julia you have made your point only too well





I have to be willing to take the flack for seeming really ignorant to those who did not read the other thread, but hey, its worth it

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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:07:35 AM   
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You have my admiration :)


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RE: Sex Slavery in The US: Why can't American Men Keep ... - 5/18/2011 9:11:07 AM   
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A sex slave is not a protitute in that a " prostitute " choses to make her living with her body. A sex slave is forced against her will and coirced and threatened.


Then there are very few actual prostitutes in the United States as many of the street walker variety (and maybe even the call girl variety) are threatened and coerced.

I get your point, you would like to create some sort of difference between someone who is sold into slavery without their consent, and the common tramp at the liquor store, unfortunately, sometimes there isn't much of a difference in the day to day reality.

The fact of the matter is, if a woman has had someone sell access to their pussy in this country they are a second class citizen. And when women like this are beaten and murdered, our law enforcement doesn't work quite as hard to catch the perp as they would if "she didn't ask for it"... it is a hypocrisy in this country that disgusts me

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