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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:19:23 PM   
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The racists always want to play this one as anti-semitic, and have since the invention of the ostensible current usage of that word.  


It's not just the racists.
Obama is no friend to Israel.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:23:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		And why should he be, are you a friend to labor?  are you a friend to the kennedys?  are you a friend to the money we are sinking in that hole over there in israel to keep them running their ship of beligerent state?  Wanna send even more money over there?

Thats the trouble with you borrow and spend independent neo-cons, you cry about spending money on babys milk and all the foreign aid we are handing out to people who aint done us a damn bit of good, and when we start dictating policy to these welfare asshats the independend neo-cons as well as the republican neo-cons get scared and start crying and pissing their fuckin pants.

Buncha goddamn caspar milquetoasts.

Bring it on. 

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:25:58 PM   
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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:34:33 PM   
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What the fuck, you thought they were financing this belligerence with hawking little paper star of davids on the sidewalks on VE day for pocket change, or even selling uzis? 

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:36:50 PM   
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The other thread we've had about this is better, sweetie.
Try harder in future.


Definitely.


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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:39:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		But this is the one where we get to throw our dicks around and talk in sound bites without regard to actual fact, making any sorta shit up, sounding all dukie and shit,  it is real american joe six pack politics.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 4:40:16 PM   
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But this is the one where we get to throw our dicks around and talk in sound bites without regard to actual fact, making any sorta shit up, sounding all dukie and shit,  it is real american joe six pack politics.

Definitely. I might leave you guys to it then :)

Have fun boys.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 5:16:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Am just wondering why it is, why does America give a fuck about Israel, it is another country for fuck's sake ?

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 7:14:49 PM   
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It's not just the racists.
Obama is no friend to Israel.

Reckon its true. The onus is always on Israel. It can never do enough and a big fuss always has to be made. I don't know if the US should give Israel so much money but it gives almost as much to Egypt and large sums to Israel's unfriendly neighbours which is weird. Wonder if it is done to bolster the US military industry because loans and aid always involves buying US weaponry. Egypt now has one of the biggest armies in the world so a war with Israel would be a devastating.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 8:48:52 PM   
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..............I don't know if the US should give Israel so much money ........


Israel gets more aid money than the entire continent of Africa.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 8:52:25 PM   
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Obama's birth certificate T-shirts: Enough already?

New York – The Obama re-election campaign has a dubious new fundraising gimmick: A T-shirt making fun of birthers

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I wonder how this will cost  the Dems in Jewish voters and financial support

It may be substantial

Especially if its a shift of support, and not just a withdrawl, and it goes the other way towards the Republicans

I personally think Obama is pissing everybody off

The Muslims and the Jews as well as the anti Zionists

The environmentalists and the industrialists

And so on

It may all add up to an erosion of support that could have an effect for years



It will cost him somewhat in financial support, since the biggest Jewish donors tend to be Zionist, but he'll still raise his billion dollars. And as Ive said, its a net gain in voters. Militant Zionist Jews are far outnumbered by the anti-Semitic crowd he's pandering to. It's just another arrow in his quiver of race/class warfare.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 8:59:32 PM   
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FR -

In the same speech in which he threw Israel under the bus Mr "What me worry about deficits"

Proposed billions in new aid for Islamic nations

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/05/19/20110519obama-mideast-aid-funds.html

Just a coincidence, Im sure

Which is primarily coming from the World Bank:

The aid package, which would unfold over two to three years, would include an estimated $1 billion in debt cancellation, $1 billion in loan guarantees and several billion more in financing from multilateral institutions such as the World Bank, according to three senior administration officials who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity under ground rules set by the White House.

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/05/19/20110519obama-mideast-aid-funds.html#ixzz1MrUHcJrr





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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 9:03:03 PM   
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..............I don't know if the US should give Israel so much money ........

Israel gets more aid money than the entire continent of Africa.

Not an expert on the figures but if what I read is correct most US military aid is given to Egypt and Israel both of which were friendly. Normal aid is a different matter with African states getting good share out of 20+ billion per annum.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 9:03:54 PM   
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..............I don't know if the US should give Israel so much money ........


Israel gets more aid money than the entire continent of Africa.


I dont know why thats even relevant, but it is also incorrect. Your figures most likely dont include AIDS funding, but even without it there are years where Israel got less than Africa. Include them and its not even close.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 9:08:38 PM   
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it is also incorrect


It is very incorrect.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/where-does-u-s-foreign-aid-go/



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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 11:47:08 PM   
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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/19/2011 11:57:39 PM   
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The question is whether or not that includes "loans" that are never paid back....eventually becoming grants....


I repeat:

WHEN YOU INCLUDE AIDS FUNDS FOR AFRICA IT ISNT EVEN CLOSE. AFRICA RECEIVES BILLIONS MORE THAN ISRAEL

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/20/2011 12:22:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ron, how can Israel firsters be racists ? You need a new dictionary.

Unfortunately I like to think of my country first, and if we just stopped all aid to the entire Semite population of this planet, let them kill each other and who is left give us a call we would be alot better off.

Like any of them give a fuck about us. All they want is our money and weapons. Fukum, fukum all, put the wallet down and step away from them people. All of them. I'm not going to take sides. Fukum all equally.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/20/2011 12:26:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		"WHEN YOU INCLUDE AIDS FUNDS FOR AFRICA IT ISNT EVEN CLOSE. AFRICA RECEIVES BILLIONS MORE THAN ISRAEL "

Fuck them too, who the hell aids us ?

Oh, and last I heard Africa was a continent, not a place one eighth the size of Florida. Yeah, and a whole seven million live there ? How much is that per person ? There are more people in Ohio. But of course Africa has those moving sidewalks and jet cars like on the Jetsons, while poor Israel is nothing but a desert where people have flies crawling all over them. Gotcha, thanks for the enlightenment.

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RE: Obama throws Israel under the bus - 5/20/2011 1:11:33 AM   
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"WHEN YOU INCLUDE AIDS FUNDS FOR AFRICA IT ISNT EVEN CLOSE. AFRICA RECEIVES BILLIONS MORE THAN ISRAEL "

Fuck them too, who the hell aids us ?

Oh, and last I heard Africa was a continent, not a place one eighth the size of Florida. Yeah, and a whole seven million live there ? How much is that per person ? There are more people in Ohio. But of course Africa has those moving sidewalks and jet cars like on the Jetsons, while poor Israel is nothing but a desert where people have flies crawling all over them. Gotcha, thanks for the enlightenment.

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I was responding to an erroneous post, I never said I think we should be giving foreign aid to anyone. Learn to read before you rant.

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