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school - 10/10/2004 8:16:15 PM

olddog

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It has been a difficult month. Two ladies failed their entrance exams at "The Young Ladies School of the Erotic Arts" So I am renewing my search. The school is free to those that really want to become the all the woman they can (yeah, I know, half the language is copy righted these days). I figure when they discovered they were going to have to really work it scared them.

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RE: school - 10/10/2004 8:23:27 PM

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Yeah I can imagine they were scared. So, what is this exactly one of the typical. Come into my school types and do whatever I say and serve whatever I say until I say you are free to go?

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RE: school - 10/14/2004 2:29:26 PM

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It is not a question of do as I say. The ladies asked for help in correcting self Identified charactor flaws. One wanted help with weight loss and a tendency to be a brat. During the interview (where I laid out the plan) she discovered that she would have to work and that I would keep her on the straight and narrow to reach the stated goals. This led to a panic attack, and she bailed out. Every thing I do is SSC, negotiated and in writing.

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RE: school - 10/14/2004 3:30:07 PM

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Olddog, this is not dirrect -at- you, rather prompted by your post.

Why is it that men think they can teach women to be 'real' women or 'better' women? I mean, if I were looking for someone to teach me how to be -more- a woman, I tihnk I'd do better going to a female or female identified person.

I can understand, if a male person is helping a female person acheive a goal that she herself has set, however so often people claim to be able to turn someone into a better version of their sex and I get a bit confused.

Too, who defines what is a 'real' woman or a 'better' woman? Every time a dominant person sends me an e-mail saying he will make me into a REAL woman. What standard is he using to determine what is woman?

So, again, Olddog, not pointed at you. But you got me thinking, and I'm a women and gender studies minor :)

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RE: school - 10/14/2004 5:31:25 PM

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You do realize if I want to lose weight I have to do it for myself right? You bullying me into it is not going to help me. Sure, short term but once I am on my own I will gain it all back and then some.
Being a brat is subjective. Who is to say one is a brat? People who are not my Dom call me one all of the time. Although if I ask him he will say I've never been one.
I've noticed being a brat to most means. You are not obeying me(even though I'm not your dom or anything to you) so you're being a brat.
Not a brat in my book...but hey..I'm not the world.

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RE: school - 10/14/2004 8:59:45 PM

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Women who HAVE to work at being REAL women? Pffffffttt ..... rofl .. ( stupidist thing i have ever heard in my life).

So ... did the fonder of this school first live as a woman to get the 'full feel' of what it is to actually be a REAL woman before claiming to posess such a level of understanding as an expert (as i have heard some Dominants do who wish to better understand submissives)? WHAT is this?!!? ......... an educational institution for the transgenderly challenged? ( ..... err ...... no offence to the transgenders out there.

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 9:06:43 AM

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quote:

So I am renewing my search.

In other words, you are posting a personal ad here in the forums where it doesn't belong. How can you be qualified to run a "school" if you don't have better sense than that?

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 11:24:51 AM

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I can not teach "how to be a woman". What I teach is how to be the woman you want to be. You (the student) must define what it is you want to be. It is almost like training a doctor or engineer. I instruct in basic skills what you do with these skills is up to you. They do not teach "this is how you build a car" they teach math, thermodynamics, physics, statics ect. ect. ...bleeh! Then it is up to you using these tools to design and build the car. Does this help?

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 11:37:28 AM

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No that was just a statement of what is. My search is elsewhere.

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 11:43:38 AM

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You can lead a horse to water ... . All I can do is point a way for you (the sudent) to reach your stated goals. When you were in school and did not do your lessons what happened? Same thing here. Just taking it to another level.

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 11:48:46 AM

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Think of it (losing weight) as a subject "weight loss 101... 3 credit hours" and you are failing the course. Would you not find a tutor to help you.

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 1:19:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: olddog

Think of it (losing weight) as a subject "weight loss 101... 3 credit hours" and you are failing the course. Would you not find a tutor to help you.

Nope, I decide if it was a class I really needed to be taking, or wanted to be taking, and if so, examine why I wasn't doing well.

I guess I believe that self improvement has to come from inside or it won't be sucessful.

Anyway, previously, as I said, I -wasn't- commenting on your post, because you didn't quite say you were "teaching women to be women" I was simply commenting on a trend I'd noticed.

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 8:01:41 PM

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Im sorry, but your post sounded like a troll to me also - dont know why, maybe the way it is worded, not sure, but came across to me as a 'personal ad' type post.

Just my tuppence

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RE: school - 10/16/2004 8:21:07 PM

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olddog, pay no mind to the naysayers. I understand exactly where you are trying to come from. To help them become what they want, not what you want. You are helping them be who they really want to be.

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RE: school - 10/17/2004 6:25:07 PM

olddog

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Finaly! I thougt my double major in supervision/human resources (Purdue), with 15 hr of psycology and 15 hrs of communications (not counting speech) was wasted. Thank you.

Sorry my spelling sometimes sucks and my typing is worse.

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RE: school - 10/17/2004 6:29:54 PM

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As I am not dead yet I have yet to make all the mistakes there are to make. ;<)

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RE: school - 10/18/2004 10:33:41 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sub4hire
You do realize if I want to lose weight I have to do it for myself right? You bullying me into it is not going to help me. Sure, short term but once I am on my own I will gain it all back and then some.

If you're interested in losing weight, or even if you're not, may I recommend the wonder diet: "Eat people, not food!"

I've enjoyed almost every minute of my "diet", and didn't feel deprived once. Sure keeps you from thinking of snacking.

Worked for me. After being overweight most of my life, as of this morning my BMI is in the "normal " range. It was very slow, which was what I intended.

As to you, I can only say, I sure like your pic. If you're overweight, it certainly settled in the right spot. LOL

I agree that over-strictness is a sure way to fail in a diet. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt (XX-L) Somehow it has to be done in a way that can be sustained long-term.

So here I am: Kind, cheerful and oral!

~smile~

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RE: school - 10/18/2004 3:33:20 PM

temptation

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so.. pretty much what a licensed doctor or psychologist would do, only without the license?

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RE: school - 10/19/2004 12:33:47 PM

afmvdp

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or the ungodly costs. Think more of a psychologist, a personal trainer, cosmetologist, fashion consultant, and spiritual guide in one.

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RE: school - 10/19/2004 12:50:30 PM

sub4hire

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quote:

As to you, I can only say, I sure like your pic. If you're overweight, it certainly settled in the right spot. LOL

Smile, thank you for the compliment. However I was using weight as an example. I can lose a few pounds. I still have my babyfat from birth. My little stomach. If that was gone I'd be deleriously happy. Never been on a diet in my life. However, worked out hard. I still pack on the pounds. My BMI is in the normal range though. I could do some work.

However, my concern was taken out of context. I was referring to the alledged schools.
In another thread not long ago someone had asked about them.
I'll say the same thing here as I said there.
I can see workshops. If you respect someone and they have something to teach. They are holding some sort of class.
However, these alledged schools. I have heard nothing but horror stories from them. The people are no more than predators. Olddog claims he has credentials. Yet, is he willing to show any? What proof do we have?
Also, the credentials don't seem to fit a whole lot of self help categories. Then again, you really don't need credentials. A revovered drug addict can effictavely help current addicts.
So perhaps the school is more like an AA meeting. Been there done that, here let me help you as well?
I can also understand the being there for someone. Like a mentor, although I fail to see how that would turn into a school.

If I were losing whatever battle against myself I was waged in at the moment. Nope, I certainly would not find a tutor. I'd do a bit of soul searching and try to heal. Figure out why exactly I was losing. Then try to work on that. It comes from within we just have to harvest it.

None of us are perfect we win and lose battles within ourselves daily. If it is that important to us we do not lose.

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