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tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:44:59 PM)

No it wasnt.

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Oh please, we had other reasons to believe Reagan had Alzheimers.. and we were right


No diagnosis made, just a belief he may have had... which he later agreed he did.




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:46:29 PM)


Its the "and we were right" part in which you try to claim absolute certainty

It seems odd that I should have to point something so obvious out to you

Later, as in much later, not while in office as you are so dishonestly asserting








tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:47:13 PM)

We were right in that belief, as proven by his own words. How hard is that for you to grasp?

His diagnosis proved our belief was right.

Build a bridge already.




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:48:09 PM)


Again, you were lying when you were asserting that you knew he had it while in office

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

We were right in that belief, as proven by his own words. How hard is that for you to grasp?




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:48:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Again, you were lying when you were asserting that you knew he had it while in office

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

We were right in that belief, as proven by his own words. How hard is that for you to grasp?



Show me where I said I knew he had it while in office.




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:50:29 PM)


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.. and we were right


Why the do I have to prove that the sky is blue to some people






tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:51:11 PM)

Were we not right? Didnt he come out himself and say he had alzheimers?




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 3:57:16 PM)


You are asserting that you diagnosed Reagan with Alzheimers while he was in office, and that you were right at that time, while he was in office

And you know that this is a lie on your part because of this post of Treasures:

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

*yawn*  Reposted from over two years ago...

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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber

Was that the same Reagan who had Alzheimers the last few years of his presidency? The guy that several of his cabinent have described as "not really there" during major talks about arms reduction teaties?

Just checking...


President Reagan was 77 years old when he left office in 1989.  It was five years later, in 1994, when he disclosed that he had been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.  It was a further ten years after that before he passed away from pneumonia.

Considering the clinical stages of Alheimer's and that studies indicate that a typical 70 year old American man newly diagnosed with Alzheimer’s has a life expectancy of 4.4 years, it's doubtful that President Reagan was suffering severe "not really there" symptoms of Alzheimer’s while in office fifteen years prior to his death.

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Did Reagan have Alzheimer's disease in office?

Yes and no. Without a doubt, he was on his way to getting the disease, which develops over many years. But it is equally clear that there was not yet nearly enough decline in function to support even a tentative diagnosis. Reagan's mind was well within the realm of normal functioning. Even if his doctors had been looking intently for Alzheimer's, it is still likely that they would not have been able to detect the disease-in-progress.

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How do you feel Mr. Reagan's Alzheimer's impacted his ability to perform his duty towards the end of his presidency?

"There is no evidence that Reagan had Alzheimer's Disease during his presidency. When he made his public announcement about the diseases in 1994, many of his critics exchanged meaningful glances, as if to say, "We knew he had it all along." And there are times toward the end of Reagan's presidency when he seemed forgetful. But these were probably due to the natural effects of the aging process. Remember that Reagan was 55 years old when he first ran for political office and 69 when he was elected president in 1980. Moreover, few people have more regular medical examinations than presidents and the various doctors who checked Reagan out thoroughly found no evidence of Alzheimer's Disease during his presidential tenure."

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Just when the Alzheimer's began can never be known. But while the line between mere forgetfulness and the beginning of Alzheimer's can be fuzzy, a matter of gradation, Mr. Reagan's four main White House doctors say they saw no evidence that he had crossed it as President. They saw and spoke with him daily in the White House, they said, and beyond the natural failings of age never found his memory, reasoning or judgment to be significantly impaired.

Mr. Reagan ''absolutely'' did not ''show any signs of dementia or Alzheimer's,'' said Dr. John E. Hutton Jr., who cared for him from 1984 until the end of his Presidency and remains a close family friend. Extensive mental-status tests did not indicate evidence of Alzheimer's until 1993, more than four years after Mr. Reagan left office, Dr. Hutton said.

Even in hindsight, Mr. Reagan's friends and former aides said that they, too, had seen no hint of the deterioration to come. And while they acknowledged that he had occasional memory lapses as President, especially when it came to names, many said he had had these problems for years, certainly since he was Governor of California, from 1967 to 1974.

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Did Ronald Reagan have Alzheimer’s Disease while he was President?

Dr Larry Altman, who was a Senior Medical columnist for the New York Times, once looked into this question and was…

“…unable to find any evidence by any medical criteria that is known to the medical profession that Mr Regan had any symptoms or signs of Alzheimer’s when he was President.”

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Norman Swan: Fine. Now you've looked at the health of Ronald Reagan in some depth; what did you discover when you looked at it?

Larry Altman: I was unable to find any evidence by any medical criteria that is known to the medical profession that Mr Regan had any symptoms or signs of Alzheimer's when he was President. The signs and symptoms developed several years after he left office, but interviews with senior Cabinet officials in his last term, with his doctors who treated him on a regular basis, and other people who knew him, could turn up no evidence that there was any incidence or incidents that suggested that he had Alzheimer's. And even his biographer didn't find any evidence of it.






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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Were we not right? Didnt he come out himself and say he had alzheimers?


You even admitted in that thread that you didnt know, now you are making the same dishonest assertions again




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:04:50 PM)

Treasures post was not in response to anything I posted, it was in reply to DYB.

Show me where I said he had alzheimers while in office.

You cant, because I never said he did. I said we believed he did... and he did.. as stated by his own words. I can believe the moon is blue... and if NASA comes back with a blue chunk, I would be proven right.

You are making a fool out of yourself, Sanity. And you will have to continue to do that all alone.

If you cant read a thread and at least follow along and understand what people are saying, I cant help you.




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:09:37 PM)


If Im making a fiool out of myself its only for showing so much patience with you... [;)]

What did you mean when you posted your "and we were right" comment taz

Everybody knew after he announced it [:D]









Lucylastic -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:10:38 PM)

Paging Sarah Palins version of Rosetta Stone English
STAT




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:11:21 PM)

And how would we have know we were right if he had not announced it? Use your head for something besides a hat rack, will ya?

We believed... He told us ....then we knew... because he told us... before he died... is that clear enough for you?

JFC, its like dealing with a 2 year old at times!




Lucylastic -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:13:30 PM)

nah 2 year olds grow out of it




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:16:54 PM)

My kid is well over 21... I shouldn't have to go through those years again!




Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:19:22 PM)


I dont care that you resort to these insults taz, I feel Ive made my point.

Enjoy your evening!








BamaD -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:25:13 PM)

How about this for a test question  how many states are there  (remember he said he had visited all 57 states)




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:28:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I dont care that you resort to these insults taz, I feel Ive made my point.

Enjoy your evening!



A point repeatedly proven wrong. Enjoy your night.




tazzygirl -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:29:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

How about this for a test question  how many states are there  (remember he said he had visited all 57 states)


And Bush held the american flag upside down.

They all make mistakes.





Sanity -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:29:47 PM)


And a leftist without name calling is a leftist without an argument

I will, and thank you very much

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I dont care that you resort to these insults taz, I feel Ive made my point.

Enjoy your evening!



A point repeatedly proven wrong. Enjoy your night.




Lucylastic -> RE: Test Question: What Year Is It? (5/24/2011 4:30:58 PM)

You called her a liar when she wasnt, but GASP you arent a leftist




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