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InCogNeato -> theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:02:35 PM)

For those of you with fantasies like rape, confinement, abduction etc.... do you like a lot of theatrics or just make it short and sweet?

My submissive has several fantasies that are really part of one much more elaborate abduction/gang-repeat rape/confinement fantasy.

I'm working out a way to satisfy the big inclusive fantasy, but it would take at least a weekend, costumes, props, accomplices etc... to do. I'm talking theater here pretty much.

I'm just wondering if it's overkill or if something like that would magnify the experience for the intended "victim". I think I would enjoy the creative aspects of putting something like that together, but at the same time I don't want to set a standard that I won't be able constantly repeat.

I'm interested in what you really think, not "whatever my master wants to do is fine".



FelineFae -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:07:07 PM)

The "sights" aren't the be-all/end-all for me.
The body's natural instinct to pain is to close the eyes, after all.

Beyond what it is that i'm feeling, sounds and smells tend to leave me with a greater sense of what has happened, and seals it all into memory.



InCogNeato -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:42:17 PM)

so was that a yes to theatrics or not?

If you spend the weekend abducted, blindfolded, raped repeatedly, beaten, tortured, caged, did I say raped? Repeatedly? With careful attention to details like costumes (for the times you can see) unfamiliar locations, smells of people you don't know, scripted discussions within earshot of how to dispose of your body when we're through with you etc....

is that ( the effort and delivery) something that would make it a positive memorable experience or should we just go shopping for shoes?



DomMeinCT -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:46:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: InCogNeato

I think I would enjoy the creative aspects of putting something like that together, but at the same time I don't want to set a standard that I won't be able constantly repeat.



You don't eat steak and lobster every night (and she doesn't expect that), right? 

My vote would be to have a blast, plan the big event, and enjoy the heck out of it.  Only you two can define whether it's overkill for you both.  It might be something you repeat someday, or not.



FelineFae -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:57:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: InCogNeato

so was that a yes to theatrics or not?

If you spend the weekend abducted, blindfolded, raped repeatedly, beaten, tortured, caged, did I say raped? Repeatedly? With careful attention to details like costumes (for the times you can see) unfamiliar locations, smells of people you don't know, scripted discussions within earshot of how to dispose of your body when we're through with you etc....

is that ( the effort and delivery) something that would make it a positive memorable experience or should we just go shopping for shoes?

Is this a trick question ?

Of corse it would make an impression.

i'd say, 'go for it'.



littlewonder -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 3:59:24 PM)

When I hear of people who like theatrics in their play I think they probably have a lot of drama in their lives as well and they enjoy that.




sunshinemiss -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 4:03:08 PM)

Wow. All or nothing, eh?



aromanholiday -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 4:12:54 PM)

This reply will probably be useless to you, but I'll try anyway. I have these fantasies, but...

1. I like things real. Not staged or faked in any way. If that means not experiencing a fantasy, that is fine. I don't particularly want someone enacting my own fantasies, anyway (see 2.)

2. I wouldn't want a dominant to go to all that trouble for me, as it would feel like he was servicing me. This would be the sort of thing I'd enjoy most if I'd never mentioned such fantasies to a dominant and he decided to do them simply because he liked that sort of thing. I like it best when the dominant is experiencing pleasure, the specific acts don't matter that much, although being forced is always wonderful.

Your girl might not be anything like the above, but some submissives do feel this way.

Ok, one other thought: if you haven't done this before, have a backup plan and keep a very close eye on her. Sometimes people who are very positive about a fantasy find to their dismay that in real life it's pretty shocking/frightening...and not the least bit fun or erotic. If you want her to experience that harsh reality, that's fine, but if instead you want it to be a largely fulfilling experience, keep in mind that the intensity of negative emotions can vary a lot from person to person, and, depending upon how surrendered she is to you, she may end up very hurt and/or angry if the experience pushes an unexpected real life button. Do you know how she behaves when she's genuinely panicking? Keep an eye out for that.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 4:14:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

When I hear of people who like theatrics in their play I think they probably have a lot of drama in their lives as well and they enjoy that.


Or maybe they enjoy cultural pursuits and appreciate the opportunity to engage their creativity. 
 
OP, if you and your partner think it sounds like fun, then go for it.  If it sounds like more work than you find appealing, then don't.  There's no wrong answer here.



Aileen1968 -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 4:53:34 PM)

I'm quite happy when he's hiding behind a door when I walk into a room....
No theatrics or staging needed here. Just a good old fashioned hard take down.



DesFIP -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 5:46:03 PM)

Are you sure she wants to turn these fantasies into reality? Because frequently people don't. It's not uncommon to enjoy something in your imagination that you wouldn't want to really do.

Do not assume she wants to act them out with multiple different men. Plus, even if she does, there's no guarantee that she will come out of it at all well. Are you prepared to have her never see you again? Or need constant reassurance for months on end with no sex or play?



mynxkat -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 6:59:24 PM)

I have quite a few rape/kidnap fantasies. I'm probably quite a lot happier with them staying just fantasies.

However, my kink is not your kink... If you think it's truly a good idea, something you both would enjoy, then go for it.

I can see setting up some safety precautions. First, make damn sure she has a safeword that she can use to end the whole scenario, at once. In your shoes, I'd give her that safeword some days or weeks in advance of the actual scene, without telling her just when the scene it's for will happen, unless you intend that she's going to know what's going on from the start.

Second, YOU stay with her at all times. Make sure she doesn't get damaged for real, and that any extras you've included don't take things too far.

Even if you both think it's a great idea, there are risks. She may discover that the reality of her fantasy is NOT what she had in mind. With something like that, it's very very easy to transfer feelings about the scenario to someone who was responsible FOR that scenario...namely you. She may or may not be aware of it happening (if it does), and even if she is aware of it, may not be able to avert or change the transferred feelings. This is experience speaking here.

On the other hand, she may love it, and have the time of her life.



petmonkey -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 8:29:07 PM)

i have a hard time with fantasy play.  While engaging all my senses is a pleasant way to enhance a scene or memory, total roleplay doesn't do it for me.  my Dominant's will never be a pirate captain or an Arabian slaver or French royalty, they will always be exactly who they are . . . but in a ridiculous hat.  So if laughs are what you're going for, by all means, put on that Viking helmet and bust into the kitchen with a Yar!

(exaggeration meant).

In the same way, i fail at being a gamer of any kind.



sexyred1 -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 9:20:34 PM)

I love rape play and have done both; the theatrical well planned out thing and then sometimes he just suprises me like today. He rang the doorbell, I asked who it was and he said FedEx.

I really did not know it was him and I was shocked when it was him. He just came in and did it. No theatrics.

And for those who think you have too much drama in your life if you like to dress up or plan an elaborate thing; I think those people lack creativity, imagination and whimsy if they put others down who enjoy acting out.



theRose4U -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 10:28:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Are you sure she wants to turn these fantasies into reality? Because frequently people don't. It's not uncommon to enjoy something in your imagination that you wouldn't want to really do.

Do not assume she wants to act them out with multiple different men. Plus, even if she does, there's no guarantee that she will come out of it at all well. Are you prepared to have her never see you again? Or need constant reassurance for months on end with no sex or play?



This is into that grey area of are you willing to go to jail? Consent and fantasy are fun and easy when you're "just talking" but in my mind this is into an area where the stakes are much higher.
"typical kink"--whips, clamps and restraint in court would be called assault. This you're into a level that would include becoming someone's prison bitch.

No judgement of others kink, just make damn sure that you're willing to accept the consequences of a negative outcome. People from here have died and been jailed for this...is your fantasy worth being the next?



petmonkey -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/24/2011 10:55:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
(in reply to petmonkey)



Uh,  Was that fast reply or did my post sound snarky?  It wasn't meant to be a snark.  my examples were meant to be light-hearted and not much more than that.  i was a bit disappointed when i discovered that fantasy-dressing up-total roleplay doesn't do anything for me except give me the giggles. And i absolutely do not think people are drama hogs if they enjoy such things. 



sunshinemiss -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/25/2011 2:42:34 AM)

quote:

Uh, Was that fast reply or did my post sound snarky?


Do you fit the following?:

quote:

And for those who think you have too much drama in your life if you like to dress up or plan an elaborate thing; I think those people lack creativity, imagination and whimsy if they put others down who enjoy acting out.



Kana -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/25/2011 6:36:51 AM)

I don't like theatrics. I like violent passion and raw animal sex.



sexyred1 -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/25/2011 8:56:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: petmonkey

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1
(in reply to petmonkey)



Uh,  Was that fast reply or did my post sound snarky?  It wasn't meant to be a snark.  my examples were meant to be light-hearted and not much more than that.  i was a bit disappointed when i discovered that fantasy-dressing up-total roleplay doesn't do anything for me except give me the giggles. And i absolutely do not think people are drama hogs if they enjoy such things. 



Well, it initially did not have to do with you, but then again, you sort of said that, but nicer than the other person who said. :)

Oh and Kana, you can have raw passion and animalistic sex even during role play. Believe me!!!



leadership527 -> RE: theatrics. what's your opinion? (5/25/2011 9:08:57 AM)

For me, I'm not much interested in fantasy so we don't do "scenes". I'm much more interested in exploring the primal side of sex rather than the fantasy side. When we're fucking, neither of us has enough attention span to follow a "scene". We're both very much in the moment.

Insofar as others who DO have rich fantasy lives, my opinion of them is that they have rich fantasy lives. I see that as a generally good thing so long as fantasy and reality stay clearly demarcated.



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