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Sab -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 7:48:54 AM)
Capitalising the B & D in Black Dom and using a lower case in white dom, tells me far more of your mindset than the actual words you write. Having the appropriate respect goes a long, long way. And if that makes me anal retentive - bite me! [:)]

MrMister -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 7:54:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressJira Let Me say that Most seek to serve Me do not desire to serve a Ivory Domme and I question that. BDSM is not about color but about a Wonderful Lifestyle. Just wondering why would you question the persons motives, if in fact they are sincere. Surely you would know after a short period of time exactly what were the motives behind someone approaching you. To merely get some play, or action, is certainly a very shallow and disrespectful thing, but to truly desire you for exactly who you are, in my humble opinion, is always a beautiful thing.

gooddogbenji -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 7:59:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sab Capitalising the B & D in Black Dom and using a lower case in white dom, tells me far more of your mindset than the actual words you write. Ahhhh.... The old "typing Freudian slip" argument - you type it wrong, it shows what you really meant. I don't agree, at all! I speak, understand, and write German almost as well as English. In German, capitalization rules are very different: all nouns are capitalized, and adjectives are sometimes capitalized, I is not, you is, etc... I usually have to proofread to avoid entirely random caps. Try to judge me by my caps, I dare you! Also, a lot of people are "hunt & peck" typers. They search for each letter before they type it. Therefore, any mistake they make, be it in wording or caps, is a real error, and not subconscious. Especially with there being lifestyle speak - Black Dom - and normal speak - white dom, both sides being regularily bashed. I slip in and out of it too, at times. If someone types as quickly as they speak, and doesn't proofread, you could make that argument, but I don't know if that's the case with darq. So yes, you are anal retentive, but no, I will not bite you. I'm far too submissive. Yours, benji

JohnSteed1967 -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:02:37 AM)
I think there are lots of Diffrent reasons for doing lots of diffrent things. However the whole race thing black white is a joke for two reasons. 1) You are making your sexual prefrences based on a color and not the quality of a person on their heart. I love BBW but I also like thin girls too If I found a thin girl that loved me as much or more than a BBW would I be stupid or smart to run off with the thin girl? 2) is a racial thing, blacks will play the race thing for the fact that it is Race. My Aunt is a Teacher for over 30 years. One of the teachers she worked with over those 30 years was black. One time this black teacher called a black child's mother to explain why she had suspended the boy and why his behavior was unaccetpable in her class room. The Mother immediately told the teacher "You wouldn't treat this boy this way if he were white, your just rasist because this is a black child" The teacher her self was black!" The Mother is sitting there making it a race thing not even knowing who is on the otherside of the phone!

candleTC -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:06:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrMister quote: ORIGINAL: TolerableCruelty actually, MrMister, she was quoting the OP, who was I'm assuming quoting her "blackmaster" in saying that "He never makes me feel inferior, but he does remind me that Black men are superior to white men." And to that I have this reply.... bullshit. Now, I'm not giving that response because of racism, bigotry, or even because I'm Caucasian... I'm just saying its pure bullshit because I've YET in 32 years found a Man thats superior to Me.... many that are equal yes, of all races, none superior... just as I don't think I'm superior to anyone else... except maybe close minded morons that think skin color makes them more Dominant than someone else. T.R. Obviously, I can not speak for the OP, but what I gather from reading her post, especially the one that you've just mentioned, that this is how it directly effects her in her submission to her Dom. The reasons do indeed vary for each of us regarding what we desire, want, and need in our lives, particularly this lifestyle. So what if she is feeling this way about feeling inferior to her Dom. Why is it that anyone would want be so quick to pass judgment on others here based upon their individual choice and preference? Isn't that what this lifestyle is all about, acceptance of other regardless of wiitwd? MrMister, it seems that maybe You have been missing the point. It has been made quite clear in several of her posts that she caps the B and M in Black Master, however refering to white doms in only lowercase... not only that, it also says that she can't refer to a white male as "Master"... merely symantics in my world, however, it is quite obvious how she feels. It seems that maybe the Dominant role in her life is feeding her a line, maybe to get her to submit, maybe this is how He truly feels. Nonetheless, He is creating an intolerant slave... once again, my mere opinion. What Master was commenting on, had nothing to do with HER feelings.... she was quoting Her "Black Master" in that saying He reminds her that black Men are superior to white Men. Regardless of whose feelings they are, whether it be hers or His, it still reeks of racism.

CrappyDom -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:11:44 AM)
So what you are saying is if you are a light skinned African, you are less dominant than a dark skinned one? Since the Bengalese are the darkest skinned people, I would assume that they, not Africans, would be the ones you would call the "most" dominant? Oops, that sort of kills the whole "my dom is baddest" bullshit doesn't it? Sorry but my goal in life is to skewer bullshit labels and yours seems to still have steam rising off it it.

MrMister -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:12:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 I think there are lots of Diffrent reasons for doing lots of diffrent things. However the whole race thing black white is a joke for two reasons. Mr Steed, I wouldn't go so far to say that the Black/White race thing is a "joke". Perhaps that was a mistaken choice for a word to use there (Lord knows I am certainly guilty of it more time than I care to ever think about). But the fact is there is a real and very tangible difference in our society as it regards the perception of color of one's skin. I don't feel that this will ever be completely erased from the very fabric of our society simply because it's so deeply ingrained. But it's certainly worth the effort put forth to do so, and should never cease in striving to change and/or make others aware. But it's not just learning; it's living. Just think about it with you being a caucasian male, what do you think you would be exposed to if you were born a, say, black male living in the same society you currently reside in? I have no doubt it would be quite an eye-opening experience. Okay, okay. I'll kick my soapbox back under the desk here. (edited because of my inability to effectively proofread)

gooddogbenji -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:15:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 I think there are lots of Diffrent reasons for doing lots of diffrent things. However the whole race thing black white is a joke for two reasons. 1) You are making your sexual prefrences based on a color and not the quality of a person on their heart. I love BBW but I also like thin girls too If I found a thin girl that loved me as much or more than a BBW would I be stupid or smart to run off with the thin girl? How is that a joke to anyone other than you? What if someone is, by many standards is superficial? Is that not their God-given right as an American? (yes, that was sarcastic) If it works for them, who are you to judge their tastes and call them a joke? quote: ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 2) is a racial thing, blacks will play the race thing for the fact that it is Race. My Aunt is a Teacher for over 30 years. One of the teachers she worked with over those 30 years was black. One time this black teacher called a black child's mother to explain why she had suspended the boy and why his behavior was unaccetpable in her class room. The Mother immediately told the teacher "You wouldn't treat this boy this way if he were white, your just rasist because this is a black child" The teacher her self was black!" The Mother is sitting there making it a race thing not even knowing who is on the otherside of the phone! Is it not possible that a black teacher is told to suspend a child for rolling his eyes by the white supremacist principal? I realize your quote says "your just rasist because this is a black child", not "Your principal is just racist," but I somehow don't think this is verbatim, based on the degrees of separation. And maybe this mother had seen many white children get away with worse, and many black children be suspended for less, and so it really could have been a race issue. So, while it's not my cup of tea, you want to make race an issue between consenting adults, go for it. You want to call someone else's kink a joke, I'll be there, marking my territory. Yours, benji

MrMister -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:23:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: candleTC MrMister, it seems that maybe You have been missing the point. No dear lady, you have assumed incorrectly. My point was clearly stated, and that was I (nor anyone else) should just automatically assume anything about another human beings choices and preferences. Just as it is true if what you've suggested is what is actually happening, well, there would be nothing at all positive about it if in fact it was said or done in a derogatory manner, and with "sincerity". But we should let the OP clarify such before jumping to conclusions about what she feels in her heart about such. Besides, is not my scenario a plausable one? Sorry if you find it to be off the mark, but I always try to look at the positve aspects first.Things are sometimes so easily misunderstood when given in text only.

zebra -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:25:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnSteed1967 2) is a racial thing, blacks will play the race thing for the fact that it is Race. My Aunt is a Teacher for over 30 years. One of the teachers she worked with over those 30 years was black. One time this black teacher called a black child's mother to explain why she had suspended the boy and why his behavior was unaccetpable in her class room. The Mother immediately told the teacher "You wouldn't treat this boy this way if he were white, your just rasist because this is a black child" The teacher her self was black!" The Mother is sitting there making it a race thing not even knowing who is on the otherside of the phone! I believe this is known as "generalizing from a specific of one." The behavior of one mother hardly justifies the "all blacks do this or that" rhetoric. The internet is a beautiful thing.

Contesaluv -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:36:11 AM)
I agree with mistawiggles that the color shouldn't matter. I think it's just the personality behind the man. I'm sure that his experiences in that skin may have brought him to be who he is and that is working for you. I'm a Dominican Domme, who appears at first site to be a light-skinned black woman. However, I am who I am regardless of my skin color. That being said, I've had a tougher life than most and all of that plays a big part in me being the Dominant personality that I am in life so it naturally comes across in all areas of my life, especially BDSM. It works for any sub I have regardless of whether they are White, Indian, Pakistani, Egyptian, or hispanic or any other race. Please bear in mind we all bleed the same color blood. People are just people colored by what life has given them. I know you're just curious so, I'll let those who thing it makes a difference share with ya! Just my two cents...lol

Sab -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:43:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji quote: ORIGINAL: Sab Capitalising the B & D in Black Dom and using a lower case in white dom, tells me far more of your mindset than the actual words you write. Ahhhh.... The old "typing Freudian slip" argument - you type it wrong, it shows what you really meant. I don't agree, at all! I speak, understand, and write German almost as well as English. In German, capitalization rules are very different: all nouns are capitalized, and adjectives are sometimes capitalized, I is not, you is, etc... I usually have to proofread to avoid entirely random caps. Try to judge me by my caps, I dare you! Also, a lot of people are "hunt & peck" typers. They search for each letter before they type it. Therefore, any mistake they make, be it in wording or caps, is a real error, and not subconscious. Especially with there being lifestyle speak - Black Dom - and normal speak - white dom, both sides being regularily bashed. I slip in and out of it too, at times. If someone types as quickly as they speak, and doesn't proofread, you could make that argument, but I don't know if that's the case with darq. So yes, you are anal retentive, but no, I will not bite you. I'm far too submissive. Yours, benji Quite - but the question was written and asked in English, not German - so I cannot see the analogy. My sub bite when I tell her to. Thankyaverymuch. :)

gooddogbenji -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:46:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sab Quite - but the question was written and asked in English, not German - so I cannot see the analogy. My sub bite when I tell her to. Thankyaverymuch. :) Sorry if the analogy wasn't clear. I mean that judging someone by their caps doesn't work, because, for example in my case, the caps are very random, especially before I proofread. Who knows why other people capitalize some words and not others? So why judge them based on what are, essentially, typos? Yours, benji

juliaoceania -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:47:04 AM)
I received an email from a "Black Master" on alt that had a similiar type of belief about the superiorty of Black men to White men and all that stuff. I did not respond, I did chuckle because I am a trained anthropologist and the idea that someone would be better at dominating women based upon ethnicity is ridiculous to me. I realize some people have a fetish about ethnicity and that was not why I laughed at the email. I laughed because the sender was convinced his penis size made him a better master than a "small dicked white man", (his words not mine). He failed to realize that penis size has nothing to do with the ability to dominate for many women. (actually I think the vast majority of us)

Sab -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 8:52:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji quote: ORIGINAL: Sab Quite - but the question was written and asked in English, not German - so I cannot see the analogy. My sub bite when I tell her to. Thankyaverymuch. :) Sorry if the analogy wasn't clear. I mean that judging someone by their caps doesn't work, because, for example in my case, the caps are very random, especially before I proofread. Who knows why other people capitalize some words and not others? So why judge them based on what are, essentially, typos? Yours, benji Judging was not what I did, guvna! Honest - I just took it that I saw her/his mindset as I saw fit at the time, having the knowledge of such an essteemed person as you correcting my every word is awesome. :) My thanks to you.

VikingHouse -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 9:11:55 AM)
H E X Z A C T L Y !; candle, but, I'm thinking that the very obvious racist demeanor and proclaminations of her master would be defended best by using a reverse, to the rear march and it only counts if I say so defense. I have My own shortcomings to deal with whenever My own prejudicies become to the forefront in some moment of reflection or etheral escape into My own Id. To claim that, I hold no prejudicies or illwill toward anyone would be a grand falsehood. I'm well seasoned; a bit beyond maturity, but not suffering from any debilitating diseases or illnesses that My clinician is aware of and has reported to Me. I have decades of practice as a Doctor of Delicious Deviance; a slayer of gremlins, an Intergalactic Hero Extraordinaire, the Archbishop of Santorum, Pope of Perverse Practices, and many other wonderful nouns and fantasy titles. For the pompous of nature, I'll reveal to you a truth that only repeated reminders of your mortality can make you accept that you really aren't the dark boskwagoner of Gor, nor south Alabama. We're all going to die; some horribly, others with wide grins on their happy, but dead faces. To consciously lie is to sin in My eyes, even omissions that favour your opinion can cause your Karma to darken. I don't want to have to do the extra polishing of My Karma to atone for further conscious sins so, I admit that, as an unique human, I have shortcomings and learned-experienced prejudicies. If that offends you, I'd hope that you can forgive Me for expressing a truth and not call in any arty on My six. lol Gentry

Level -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 9:14:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blkmastersgirl quote: ORIGINAL: puella I am not sure what you are asking? Are you maintaining that race effects the depth and quality a man is able to master a woman? I mean that I have a Black Master currently and know that my submission is so much greater now because he is much more a dom than anyone white I've ever played with. Maybe it is his body, maybe his mind, I'm not sure. I would like to hear from other slaves who had white and Black Masters before. Is there a difference in that Black men are better doms naturally to white women? Anybody get this besides me? I don't think it's because a black dominant is "naturally" better than a white one, it's more of a kink for you, a taboo, and it intensifies what you feel with him. Level

Level -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 9:17:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika I have been with an asian dom, a mixed afro-american dom, and now my sweet italilian dom.Blessed Be, Phoenix's Nika It's the United Nations of D/s [8D]... all teasing aside, I think that kind of variety is great. I'd hate to live in a world where everyone was the same.

mixielicous -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 9:50:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OnyxGoddess And to MstrFury the only way we will have a world where color is irrelevant is when the whole damn world is ONE color. and that is already starting to happen.[/color] (The Browning of America, Time Magazine, 1990) yes my friend is constantly saying how fair skinned caucasions are actually endangered, we all cross breed now'a'days, and we are all moving towards the same not-so-pale-anymore skintone with darker hair. not like i really care, just think its interesting

NeedToUseYou -> RE: Black Masters (5/13/2006 12:58:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Blkmastersgirl He never makes me feel inferior, but he does remind me that Black men are superior to white men. He thinks that the natural match is superior Black men with submissive white women. Ummm your master is a racist. And you get off on it. I'd guess daddy issues. Probably your daddy or mommy didn't like black people. Now you get off on the fact that it's a taboo. But anyone that says Black men are Superior to White men is racist. or White men are superior to Black men. is racist. and this comment is completely devoid of any logic quote: He thinks that the natural match is superior Black men with submissive white women. ummmm, so he does realize if all the "Superior" Black men hooked up with their "natural match" which he says is the submissive white women. THEN NO NEW SUBMISSIVE WHITE WOMEN WOULD BE MADE. Duh. If he was superior how come that cock of his can't produce the ideal match for the "Superior Black man". Because he's a racist, there is no logic. Your dom is a racist, you apparently get off on racist shit. At the least it doesn't bother you. Why not go to a KKK rally while your at it'll probably have the same effect. As your post is all about color and superiority, and ranking people solely by it. That could be the turn on, racial tension. Wow, I can't say anymore probably get me censored. LOL.

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