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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:38:01 AM   
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We are by definition discussing consensual domination, not rape.


So, what true domination is doesn't matter in the discussion.
Ok, going by consensual on both sides?
Yes, males will opt for the physical - why? Because we all go screaming back to our DNA.
Females will opt for the mental aspect because they can't physically force a man to do anything.




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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:38:33 AM   
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Indeed, that's what I thought this thread was about.

Physical strenght can make a person kneel...it can't make them submissive. Trust me on this one.

BTW...good first thread, well done.


I agree, physical strength can make someone *pretend* to submit for the purposes of survival, but that's not submission as I want to experience it on either side of the kneel.


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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:40:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		A horse is stronger than you, so is an elephant, both could easily kill you, yet they are willing to do things for humans, you tell me if physical is really stronger than psychological?

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:42:17 AM   
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A horse is stronger than you, so is an elephant, both could easily kill you, yet they are willing to do things for humans, you tell me if physical is really stronger than psychological?


This is such a great example, a human cannot dominant a horse by mere physical strength, you must exert your strength of will to do that. Strength of will trumps mere strength every time.






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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:44:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

A horse is stronger than you, so is an elephant, both could easily kill you, yet they are willing to do things for humans, you tell me if physical is really stronger than psychological?


This is such a great example, a human cannot dominant a horse by mere physical strength, you must exert your strength of will to do that. Strength of will trumps mere strength every time.



I have to agree, this is a very excellant point!

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:45:16 AM   
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A horse is stronger than you, so is an elephant, both could easily kill you, yet they are willing to do things for humans, you tell me if physical is really stronger than psychological?


This is such a great example, a human cannot dominant a horse by mere physical strength, you must exert your strength of will to do that. Strength of will trumps mere strength every time.





Yeah, yolks etc, are surely purely psychological... Wait a minute... They are not and the animal is trapped and caged by men....

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:46:04 AM   
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Men made the error of honoring mindless brutality, which they called “masculinity” instead of grace and esoteric wisdom that is mainly femininity. There is no balance. And now men must suffer the women who can’t appreciate their essence of femininity since, according to the delusion, the only way to power is by being a mindless brute (masculine) heh, enjoy the feminazi.



About 80% of those raped are raped by people they know and thought they could trust.

Most anti-feminist like to spend their waking hours ranting and complaining all over the virtual world that rape doesn't exist. The only way in which a man can fully understand and appreciate the humiliation that women go through when they are raped and sexually harassed and regarded as nothing beyond sexual objects, is when a man is raped himself, or sexually harassed by another man or woman without provocation. The apathy toward women by sexist men is one of womens' greatest obstacles in advancing in the world, yet, to eradicate it requires a vast change in the philosophical manner in which men regard women. I, for one, think it is deeply rooted in selfishness and a false sense of inferiority to women, that derives from a man's own insecurity. Women need their own revolution in more nations than middle eastern. To get that revolution, respect is needed. Antifeminist men aren't about to give respect out of ethics, or kindness. Women need to be an activists, agitate, gain positions of power in the establishment, and demand respect.


The man is in control of his own penis--not the woman. If someone says no, then keep your penis in your pants. No means no. If you push anything on someone else--if both people do not consent-- then you should be held accountable. Even if someone walks down the street naked, They MAY well be raped, but rape is the fault of the rapist, and no one deserves to be raped.If you sport beautiful jewelry, do you deserve to be robbed for it?

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:46:08 AM   
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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:46:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can give you an even better example, 2 cats, 2 dogs (Doberman) the cats rule the dogs, they're a fraction of the size of the dogs, a bit bigger than the heads of the dogs, the cats walk in and their body language is "I'm in charge" and they are, the dogs worship them and consider them above them in the pecking order.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:46:47 AM   
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Which is all well and dandy if you reduce/overcomplicate (depending on your perspective) dominance to 'I can/must force you to do these things because I am stronger than you'. If you look at it like 'I like making decisions, you like having decisions made, wanna hold hands with me and skip into the sunset while I chase you with a crop and yell 'jump higher Skippy, jump higher!'*?' then the whole thing gets a lot easier.

I think of myself as dominant because I'm compatible with submissive people. We go on dates. We go shopping. We cook together. I beat them up. They get me off. I get them off. We cuddle. I make them cry. They make me laugh. It's all good. And it works, and it makes everyone involved happy. Whether or not I could drop them with a blow to the head from my theoretical club really doesn't come into it.

*or, you know, whatever your kink is.


Thank God that someone on this thread has finally described D/s in a way that I recognise. Very nicely said.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:46:52 AM   
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A horse is stronger than you, so is an elephant, both could easily kill you, yet they are willing to do things for humans, you tell me if physical is really stronger than psychological?


But my mothers not and I'll do whatever she says - why? Not for anything mental, that's for damn sure. It's of a firm belief that even now, far in to adulthood, she'd whip my ass. lmao!


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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:47:04 AM   
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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:47:11 AM   
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Ever tamed a horse, phil?


Actually no.. However, women don't usually go out and catch wild horses and most horses that are broken are in captivity. The cultures where horses are broken most are highly masculine e.g. Mongols, Arabs, Spanish etc.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:47:57 AM   
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Thank God that someone on this thread has finally described D/s in a way that I recognise. Very nicely said.

Jump higher, Skippy, jump higher!

(Thanks.)

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:49:16 AM   
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What, you've never seen a horse ridden bareback?


Ahhh he also believes that we still "capture and trap" wild horses, he really must be from another time. Maybe that would explain all his inconsistent postings...

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:49:35 AM   
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I can give you an even better example, 2 cats, 2 dogs (Doberman) the cats rule the dogs, they're a fraction of the size of the dogs, a bit bigger than the heads of the dogs, the cats walk in and their body language is "I'm in charge" and they are, the dogs worship them and consider them above them in the pecking order.


You live in a strange world.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:50:45 AM   
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Yeah, yolks etc, are surely purely psychological... Wait a minute... They are not and the animal is trapped and caged by men....



Trapped and caged? What planet do you live on? You don't use a yoke on a horse, you use a bit, and it hardly weighs a pound.

If you don't have the presence of mind to take charge of a horse, it will quite simply take charge of you and could easily run you right back to the barn where you belong.




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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:50:52 AM   
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I can give you an even better example, 2 cats, 2 dogs (Doberman) the cats rule the dogs, they're a fraction of the size of the dogs, a bit bigger than the heads of the dogs, the cats walk in and their body language is "I'm in charge" and they are, the dogs worship them and consider them above them in the pecking order.


You live in a strange world.


Really? I think this is so much stranger

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:51:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		A horse can be trained one of two ways. It can be broken, very much like a woman can be broken, and all you are left with is a horse that is resentful, but obeys because its better than dealing with the abuse, until that day comes when the horse can break free... and then its gone.

Or, you can tame a horse the way so many do, including many of the spanish and the native americans, with tenderness, patience, kindness and firmness. Winning over the trust of the horse until the horse and the man, or woman, become one. This is the horse that serves out of loyalty and adoration, one who can roam off for miles, and still respond to a whistle.

There are many ways to train. Surprisingly enough, women can train in both methods just as easily as men.

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RE: Male vs. Female Dominance (My 1st thread) - 5/30/2011 9:52:46 AM   
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I am also thinking of a friend's colt, who is with a trainer right now. Yeah. Domestically bred horses are creampuffs. Sure.

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