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PhilSlave -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 5:23:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Dear Phil, slave to your own sad reality.......

I will be certain to alert the guard when I feel I am losing.

And yes unAwareness......this latest crop does make you nearly...........NEARLY........ look like Alan Alda.[:D]


I feel your pain. 1900000000 posts? wtf?




LaTigresse -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 5:36:20 AM)

It is apparent that we did not share a math teacher.

Among many other things.




PhilSlave -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 5:37:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

It is apparent that we did not share a math teacher.

Among many other things.


:-) that actually made me smile.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 5:43:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PhilSlave
I feel your pain. 1900000000 posts? wtf?

and...you're just now noticing this?

BTW, you should double check the total.





juliaoceania -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 7:34:56 AM)

Even though this topic is so tired and old (a quick search in the archives would tell you that[8|]) I will answer in a somewhat sincere way

You live in the UK, your country had a different sort of feminist movement than my country did....

As to the rest of it, "if women want to be equal" crap. I am at least equal to men, and superior to a good deal of them. So the entire thesis breaks down right there for me.... and I am a submissive female, and your rants seem pointed at dominant women. You equate equality with D/s with feminism... these things are not logically connected, so your swipe is futile.

By the way, I am sure dominant women on this board are tired of your love/hate dichotomy that has its roots in your momma going back to work when you were still nursing, creating this psychodrama of needing a mommy (domme), but hating her at the same time[:(]




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 7:39:46 AM)

Please temper yourselves and your responses. Breath, consider the source, meditate or just say no.

Thank you




banditmel -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 7:49:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Dear Phil, slave to your own sad reality.......

I will be certain to alert the guard when I feel I am losing.

And yes unAwareness......this latest crop does make you nearly...........NEARLY........ look like Alan Alda.[:D]



Typical misogynist, most likely a regular poster with 25 different IDs from the usual MRA, antifeminist internet forums.



Trust me, the men recent influx of women-bashing on these forums is just a backlash from the whiney, misogynist men who have nothing better to do than nag and whine and complain about women. They live on the antifeminist MRA boards.  They are good at peppering forums with their small herd of supporters in total bully-style.  They complain about the feminist movement and anything else they fear as "female entitlements". It's based on an inferior complex.  If something affects boys in a manner that they perceive as negative, and women had anything to do with it…such as being in existence…it means that feminists are trying to destroy young boys in whatever way. Blah, blah.  Like both sexes don't have their grievances.  Come on. Misogynist men have been bashing women for centuries and women just finally said ‘enough’ and enough women joined in to start putting the breaks on it.

Women have worked hard to change the entire structure of their lives and have overcome huge bumps and obstacles to create interesting lives, exciting careers, amazing history and research. And just what have antifeminist men been doing? They remain depressingly the same. And they refuse to be angry at the things they should be angry at — male violence, male rape of women and the world, male lack of emotional intelligence.  Antifeminists blame their lack of change and the never ending backlash against women,  he blames his misery on these outdated “guy codes” on women. Women continue to march on, excited, motivated, earning more college degrees than ever before, breaking new ground in women’s studies– they surge ahead as doctors, lawyers, and politicians. And this is just the start.


There was rampant oppression of women which is obvious in the historical record from first hand sources (the actual laws passed by men and the actual words written by men.) The fact that women had to fight for decades to get rid of it should be something that is not swept under the rug. That is why when you talk about how oppressed men are, feminists look at you funny. Men have never been oppressed in any where near the level that women were and still are outside the West. Western women have achieved most of the easy goals-right to own property, keep wages, not get fired for getting pregnant etc…) Where male oppression exists, it is not generally feminists who are doing it but other men. Which is why the MRM really does little to help the cause because you drive the very people who might be willing to help you away by the way they refer to women. The feminists are a movement originating from real grievances that can be easily supported through the historical record. The MRA’s are a countermovement because they feel threatened by the existence of feminism. They would love to return society to its pre-feminist status quo glory days where the woman was barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen and men were breadwinners. Yet they will bash that same woman for expecting a man to pay for dinners. Go figure. They whiney, angry at the world sorry misogynistic men will fail for the reasons that coutermovements usually fail. But they will still spend the rest of their entire lives sitting at the computer peppering internet forums while the real people live their lives under the sun, rolling in the grass, seeing movies.




hlen5 -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 7:50:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminTheta

Please temper yourselves and your responses. Breath, consider the source, meditate or just say no.

Thank you



Just say no has my vote, it's too lovely a day for this (mastur)baiting to matter.

EFSpelling




sexyred1 -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:13:24 AM)

It is getting to the point on the boards where I can see the title of a thread scrolling by and know who the author is. This one was a bit of a surprise, but not really.

It really is not worth it for anyone to reply to this crap, and as VAT said, consider the source. I am still sure this will generate about 18 pages of self righteousness.

I will say one thing, though: apparently women do have true power since so many men post things like this; it comes from fear. I almost never see women post about the evolution of men, since in many cases, they have not changed.




PhilSlave -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:20:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: banditmel


quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Dear Phil, slave to your own sad reality.......

I will be certain to alert the guard when I feel I am losing.

And yes unAwareness......this latest crop does make you nearly...........NEARLY........ look like Alan Alda.[:D]



Typical misogynist, most likely a regular poster with 25 different IDs from the usual MRA, antifeminist internet forums.



Trust me, the men recent influx of women-bashing on these forums is just a backlash from the whiney, misogynist men who have nothing better to do than nag and whine and complain about women. They live on the antifeminist MRA boards.  


Paranoid much? Nope I only have this account and have no idea what the MRA even is.




Kalista07 -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:29:05 AM)

Hey Philly.....My good 'ol buddy....

After a little debate I decided to respond to your  mis directed and uneducated diatribe of a post where I simply must have over looked where you posted any direct questions (seeing as to how I am just a stupid woman and all!!)  I'm just going to make a few points and you can take them or leave them because it's just too nice of a day for me to get into a pissing match with someone who's clearly soo confused about his role in life.
  • In it's truest form feminism was about creating equality for all people.
  • Your "vision" of a woman's role and responsibility remains as biased as ever because you continue to neglect to comprehend that after working an 8,10, or 12 hour paid work day most women have to return home and begin taking care of their families.
  • I was actually raised by someone like you....So, while you may give the rest of the posters on this site rage... You have my pity.
  • The brain washing he attempted to do clearly did not work because despite his attempts to control me I have my masters degree, hold a professional position and am in a management position. No one does my work but me.
  • Despite all of that I am aware of what all of my staff make. I still make about 75 cents less on the dollar than my male staff.
  • Your opinions show how you are confused either with our role in the BDSM world or your sexuality.....So, I have to ask Philly...it makes sense that you would chose to be a slave, I mean I can see how the guilt of these thoughts would drive you to the need to be punished but are you certain that it's women that you desire to submit to?
Kali




tazzygirl -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:31:16 AM)

He doesnt upset me. He doesnt make me angry. He isnt even worth my pity. My derision he has in spades.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:32:15 AM)

Remember our Bosnian Correspondent? Phil is his clone. Stop feeding him. Please.




PhilSlave -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:39:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Remember our Bosnian Correspondent? Phil is his clone. Stop feeding him. Please.


I am nobody's clone, as far as I know human cloning has not yet been performed and is against most international laws if said clone is to be taken to full term. The cancer issues with Dolly the sheep should make the reasons for this completely clear.




flcouple2009 -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:50:22 AM)

I consider myself a loser in this.

I made the mistake of reading the stupidity.  




MarcEsadrian -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:51:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aderious
Currently the west has a system of matriarchy.

That's incorrect, unless of course the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government were overrun by females overnight, and have decreed we must adopt a matrilineal line of succession in child rearing.




juliaoceania -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:51:50 AM)

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while you may give the rest of the posters on this site rage... You have my pity.


I am not enraged by him, but I do think he is here striking out at the very women he is attracted to... it is obvious he has an issue with dominant women




PhilSlave -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 8:54:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aderious
Currently the west has a system of matriarchy.

That's incorrect, unless of course the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government were overrun by females overnight, and have decreed we must adopt a matrilineal line of succession in child rearing.


I think Marc he is talking about the pervasive feminisation of society and many 'mangina' males ttitudes in particular.




MarcEsadrian -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 9:11:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PhilSlave
I think Marc he is talking about the pervasive feminisation of society and many 'mangina' males ttitudes in particular.


As silly as this thread is, there is a pervasive myth in circulation among anti-feminists that the contemporary west is a matriarchy. A societal construct like that isn't present simply because the rate of milquetoast half-a-homo men is on the rise, or that the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act was finally signed.




pahunkboy -> RE: Are Woman the real losers in the feminist struggle, is this why they will never have true power? (5/30/2011 9:24:11 AM)

I dont have a dog in this fight-   ....IMO there seems to be some trade offs with the fem movement.

Anyone who has it all-   hmmm.   A tall and impossible order.




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