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is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 8:49:46 AM   
oldhippie1954


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Status: offline 		is it possible to have a contract or something
between dom and sub/master-slave
or anyone else
that would make sure that I stay shirtless
I like the idea of having no choice but
to remain shirtless
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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 9:12:11 AM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		Yes. Of course.

You hook up with someone. Hire a lawyer. He creates a contract that states you must remain shirtless at all times and you both sign it.

Whether that will work in your job, going to the grocery store, going to PTA meetings, church, synagogue, etc. is up to you.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 10:11:07 AM   
oldhippie1954


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Status: offline 		all I need to do is find sombody then who
would want to keep me shirtless.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 10:12:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		You realize of course that fame and fortune as a model in an Arrow shirt commercial avenue will be forever closed to you.

Think this thru, man.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 11:06:54 AM   
oldhippie1954


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You realize of course that fame and fortune as a model in an Arrow shirt commercial avenue will be forever closed to you.

Think this thru, man.


but I have no desire to be in an arrow shirt ad or any shirt ad

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 11:12:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: oldhippie1954

all I need to do is find sombody then who
would want to keep me shirtless.



Yes, well that's usually the hard part. I've seen many many threads written by men who cannot find a companion to fulfill their desires. Most people like to be treated as individuals and not life support for someone else's kink. Good luck.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 11:29:11 AM   
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If so, then you go ahead and have the papers drawn up, I'll sign 'em.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 11:49:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll sign as long as the contract also states you have to keep your pants on (^_^)Y

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 12:06:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is possible to write a document that says anything.  Whether it is a legal contract or not is another story.  Whether a court will enforce it or not is is yet another story.

Maybe you could just do a pinky promise, OP.  That should work.  And for god sakes, lay off the Bud if you are going to be shirtless at all times.


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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 12:14:09 PM   
oldhippie1954


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ORIGINAL: Nanako

I'll sign as long as the contract also states you have to keep your pants on (^_^)Y


well yes I would wear pants,unless I am wearing a kilt
or something like that

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 12:17:53 PM   
crazyml


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Status: offline 		Ah, in that case, I'm sorry, I'm out. Kilts are a hard limit for me.

Unless you were 21 and a cheerleader.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 12:21:45 PM   
oldhippie1954


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

It is possible to write a document that says anything.  Whether it is a legal contract or not is another story.  Whether a court will enforce it or not is is yet another story.

Maybe you could just do a pinky promise, OP.  That should work.  And for god sakes, lay off the Bud if you are going to be shirtless at all times.



I don't drink Bud but maybe to much Moutain Dew.
but yes that is what I had ment as anybody can
write anything they want
but making it a legal document or contract
that would be enforceable would be another thing.
that is what I was wondering if it would be possible
to have a legal document or contract
that would keep me shirtless and have it enforceable


< Message edited by oldhippie1954 -- 5/31/2011 12:35:04 PM >

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 12:37:37 PM   
oldhippie1954


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Ah, in that case, I'm sorry, I'm out. Kilts are a hard limit for me.

Unless you were 21 and a cheerleader.


no problem as I just ment that yes I would not be totaly
naked all the time

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 1:25:51 PM   
Iamsemisweet


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Status: offline 		An enforceable contract requires an offer, acceptance and consideration.  Consideration means, for example.  X will pay you 5K a year to be shirtless at all times.  In the absence of consideration, it isn't a contract, it is prefactory.  So, what is the consideration for you being shirtless at all times?
Having said that, I have a hard time imagining a court enforcing such an agreement.  Could be interesting, though.
Yay, my vanilla ice cream cone went away!

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 1:32:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: oldhippie1954

is it possible to have a contract or something
between dom and sub/master-slave
or anyone else
that would make sure that I stay shirtless
I like the idea of having no choice but
to remain shirtless


I doubt a contract would be needed; you seem to rather enjoy being shirtless, among other things.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 1:50:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: oldhippie1954
that is what I was wondering if it would be possible
to have a legal document or contract
that would keep me shirtless and have it enforceable


The short answer with regard to the particulars of this question: no. There are no laws, no court nor any other aspect of what passes for a legal system in this country (nor in any other, I don't suppose) that would enforce any such "contract".

Sorry to bust your bubble, sweetcheeks. This is the really real world. Unless you are able to be the kept creature of Someone who never lets you leave the house for any reason, you are going to have to wear a shirt sometimes.
Why not make it simple - don't wear shirts unless you have to (again, in this reality, there are times when in public that you are required by law to do so, no matter what your Dominant, your pretend contract or your own kinky preferences say otherwise).

These points made, to each, their own happiness. Good luck to you.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 1:52:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would think the voicebox would appreciate your wearing a shirt when he draws up the papers.

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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 2:40:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Easier to just explain you prefer not to wear a shirt if you don't have to.
However, expect to be cold in winter. Expect to be told to get dressed so you can go to dinner, go to the neighbors for a barbecue, go to a friend's for Thanksgiving. So you can run errands and pick up his/her dry cleaning, go to the grocery store and bag and carry the groceries.

Anyone you're with will most probably also want a companion during real life. Someone to share popcorn with while watching Pirates 4. And real life requires appropriate clothing.


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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 4:00:39 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		So what happens when you stop at a place with the sign that reads "No Shirt, No Shoes, No Service"? What about when you visit family or friends? They're all ok with you being shirtless at all times? Do you attend church, go to work, attend meetings or group outings?

Or are you planning on this person never allowing you to leave the house? If so are they providing for you as well or do you have some way of getting everything you need without ever walking out the door?

What about in the wintertime? Unless you live in a 24/7 warm climate are you prepared to keep your heat up enough to keep you toasty all the time?

Or is this all just a little fantasy in your head you like to wank off to? Which is fine but ya know....fantasy isn't always doable in reality.


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RE: is it possible to...? - 5/31/2011 4:16:44 PM   
sexyred1


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Status: offline 		If you look closely at the OP's photo (he attached a larger one), I doubt that he is all that concerned about his appearance, with the tats and piercings. Not that anything is wrong with any of it. You choose to put forth a particular persona in this world and you should do what makes you comfortable.

I really think it is a major fantasy about control and for him, it manifests itself in being shirtless.

As he admitted, first he has to find someone to work with him on this.

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