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Asherscorp1 -> He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/8/2011 12:10:10 PM)

My question is primarily for those in a 24/7 relationship but of course anyone's thoughts are welcomed. There are certain expectations in being someone's "pet" "slave" "sub" all day every day and of course I know the majority of the time we sub/slaves meet these happily, even feeling very priveleged to do so. What about those times you just don't enjoy it? Say your plans, activity, mind-set whatever is completely disrupted to obey a command from, or fill a desire of, your Master? If it leaves you feeling, frustrated, sulky, unhappy, irritable, etc how do you channel that and get on with your day? Do you swallow it, do you discuss it, do you let it run it's course and ignore it in the mean time? What's your experience?




littlewonder -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/8/2011 3:07:59 PM)

There are times when i have to do things for him that i don't want to do, that i don't enjoy, not just with him but with work, family, friends, etc...I just suck it up, do it and get on with my life. I may complain a little, seethe under my breath for a little but I do what needs to be done, take a deep breath and get on with my life.

Life isn't always happy go lucky, smiles and roses.

If I'm having a particularly rough day I take some time for myself and do something for me be it a walk alone, going to the spa, meditating or just chilling for a little bit.






Aileen1968 -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/8/2011 7:24:50 PM)

I would much rather have to do a few things here and there for him that I don't care to do than the alternative of not having him in my life to do those things for at all.
He is well aware of my schedule and knows that the only reason I would ever tell him I couldn't complete a request for him is because I had to do something for my daughters. Other than that....he always comes first.




peppermint -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/8/2011 7:42:47 PM)

Gary and I read each other like a book.  We can finish each other's sentences.  We often think of the same thing at the very same time.  Normally I get up and fetch for him, get him a drink, or a snack, or whatever he wants.  Normally that is not a big thing and I am more than willing to put aside what I am doing to take care of his needs.  When I am having a bad day he knows it.  On those days he is likely to just do for himself.  




DesFIP -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 4:15:10 AM)

I talk to him. There are times I just do it anyway and times when I'm feeling overwhelmed and need a break. But he isn't a mind reader so I have to tell him.

He does have a tendency to forget that I'm cooking and I need to remind him that if he doesn't want dinner burned, he needs to wait till I'm done. Putting food on to saute does not mean it can be safely ignored. But his cooking abilities are strictly limited.




mynxkat -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 6:47:09 AM)

When it comes to simply fetching and carrying for him, I might need to ask him to give me a moment or two, but for the most part small requests like that don't bother me even during the times when I am having a really bad day. It can even help lighten my mood, giving me something different to focus on.

When it comes to more...involved...commands, if I'm having a bad day, I tell my Master. Often we'll talk about whatever is bothering me and maybe cuddle for a bit, then see what happens from there. If I'm in the middle of doing something that can't really be interrupted without ruining the project, I ask him to wait for a few minutes til I've reached a spot where I can set it down or til I've finished it. If I've made plans to do something, Master already knows about those plans and generally doesn't make conflicting demands on me unless the plan is something flexible or completely frivoulous and rescheduling won't affect anyone but me.






NuevaVida -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 7:59:03 AM)

I either suck it up and do it, knowing the bigger picture is so good, so who cares about the little things I'm simply "not in the mood" for.  If the reason is because I'm struggling emotionally, I either do it and then tell him later about the struggle, or he notices me frowning at him and we end up talking about it then.




Kana -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 8:30:27 AM)

Fuck. She's a slave. Of course she's supposed to sacrifice. That's the inherent nature of slavery-there is no hers as it's all mine, including her.And that means all of of what was once called her. Her body, her possessions, her heart, her thoughts, her time, her cunt, her ass-Mine.

Privates don't tell Generals things are inconvenient, they hop to and do.




NuevaVida -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 9:09:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kana

Privates don't tell Generals things are inconvenient, they hop to and do.



My General wants to know what's going on in my mind and why, as he can better lead when equipped with such information.

But then our situation is a relationship geared to benefit both of us, with him in authority.  Because it's a relationship in which he wants us both to be happy and thrive, he'd be pretty disappointed in this private if she hop to'd and did, without talking to him (be it right then or later) about what's going on with me.  Sometimes "inconvenience" is the furthest thing that's going on.  If I'm feeling distant from him emotionally (meaning I'd rather go off in the other room and not be around him), it's going to prevent me from happily hop-to'ing, so my General wants to get to the source of what's going on, rather than telling this private to shut up and hop to.  [;)]




HeatherMcLeather -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 10:25:09 AM)

There are no times I don't enjoy it. I am hers, I'm here to serve her. And I enjoy it, its my kink, its what I want out of life. Yes, of course there are times I don't want to do something, there are times a command interferes in my plans or my mood, or whatever, but I just do what I'm told. I start out with a "just suck it up" approach, but very shortly I am in a "I love serving her" mode. The less convenient the command is for me, the deeper that feeling is.

If I'm getting a glass of water and Hanners wants one too, its no big deal, I do it and get a tiny little "mmm" feeling. But if I'm busy, say reading the boards or researching something, or writing and Hanners decides she wants a Margarita. I have to stop what I'm doing, go get out the stuff, run to the store and buy some limes, squeeze the limes, mix it all together and bring it to her.

By the time I hand her the drink I don't have any idea what I was doing when she asked for the drink, I am 100% in that moment, I've forgotten what went before. my world has shrunken down to just the two of us, nothing else exists. I am totally absorbed in serving her, the only thing that matters is how she will react when she takes that first sip. And I am turned on. So, so very turned on.





NuevaVida -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/9/2011 1:51:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

By the time I hand her the drink I don't have any idea what I was doing when she asked for the drink, I am 100% in that moment, I've forgotten what went before. my world has shrunken down to just the two of us, nothing else exists. I am totally absorbed in serving her, the only thing that matters is how she will react when she takes that first sip. And I am turned on. So, so very turned on.




I love this and so relate to it.  Just wanted to clarify that the "frown" I spoke of above - when I'm struggling to do something - it has more to do with a negative emotional reaction to something he said or a place where my mind went that needs to take a turn.

If it's a matter of I just don't feel like getting my ass up - no, that's not an issue. It's those rare times he thinks he's being funny but it comes out hurtful, I just kinda sit there with a pained look and it's hard to get up and hug him right about then.  But I do....it's just hard on those rare occiasions.




leadership527 -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/10/2011 11:41:11 AM)

Two sides to this answer:

From Carol's side: We all have to do stuff we dislike or aren't in the mood for all the time. It's a part of being adult. Getting all sulky about it is not a part of being adult.

From my side: I love Carol. I'm not particularly into causing her distress so I treat such information as valuable data which will almost always modify my plans in some way.

Together: I don't annoy her needlessly so she has confidence that when I do give annoying commands, it's with good reason so she supports me.




avena -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/10/2011 12:09:47 PM)

There are two situations when I've had difficulty complying with D's commands in the past.

The first is when I'm ill or in a plain bad mood. When I'm not feeling well, he expects me to tell him, and he usually adjusts his demands accordingly. Generally, he likes me to at least try to comply. If I'm just in a lousy mood, it can be a bit more complicated. Sometimes I don't even realize that I'm being grouchy and snappy until I get that look from him. Upon receipt of that look, I tend to stop, sit back, reflect a moment, then apologize for being grouchy, then, as others have said, I 'suck it up and get on with it'. After I've served him however he needed, I tend to go off by myself and try and figure out the cause of the bad mood, and once that's figured out, we talk about it.

The second situation is when he's asking me to do something new or that I'm not comfortable with. Usually he can tell the cause of my hesitation by the look of panic on my face, although he still expects me to try. Failing at a task isn't punishable. Failing to try is.

I can't say he's ever given me a command or made a request of me while I was in the middle of doing something else, that it really upset me to stop what I was doing to attend to him. Sometimes I'll playfully grumble about getting up to get him a beer in the middle of the movie, and he'll swat my ass as I go, but we both know it's just play. He tends to be rather considerate, and rather than expecting me to drop everything to get him a glass of water (for example), he often just gets one himself...and will even bring me one, unasked, if he knows I'm busy doing something that tends to occupy my complete focus.

He does, however, enjoy yanking my chain...and will wait until I'm finished a task and moved on to the next, before pointing out that I missed something. And then waiting until I finish fixing whatever I missed, and have gone back to the next task, before pointing out that I missed something else. It's frustrating as hell! But he enjoys it, and doesn't mind when I make faces at him for doing it...especially since he gets to 'punish' for those faces later...




aromanholiday -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/10/2011 9:15:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Asherscorp1

My question is primarily for those in a 24/7 relationship but of course anyone's thoughts are welcomed. There are certain expectations in being someone's "pet" "slave" "sub" all day every day and of course I know the majority of the time we sub/slaves meet these happily, even feeling very privileged to do so. What about those times you just don't enjoy it? Say your plans, activity, mind-set whatever is completely disrupted to obey a command from, or fill a desire of, your Master? If it leaves you feeling, frustrated, sulky, unhappy, irritable, etc how do you channel that and get on with your day? Do you swallow it, do you discuss it, do you let it run it's course and ignore it in the mean time? What's your experience?


I really don't know if the following advice is relevant to your situation or if you are even describing a personal situation. "24/7" doesn't describe the nature of a relationship except to suggest it's live-in and using all of the adjectives (pet, slave, sub) confuses the issue more, but here's what I'd do if, specifically, I was a slave (this advice does not apply to pets or subs or daddy's girls; those relationships work under very different assumptions and rules and require different advice, which I cannot give):

First, beg your master for help with this. This is a matter of discipline, and I don't think any slave can discipline themselves entirely on their own, in a vacuum.

Try to avoid getting into grooves in the first place that don't benefit your master directly. If you find yourself entering into a lot of strong personal interests and activities, it could mean your master isn't keeping you busy enough in his service and you are getting restless and bored. Instead of working on a project of your own (unless you must, for money for him) ask him for something to do, or do things he's ordered you to do in the past that have become backlogged.

Ok, so you got into a groove (that's a very good word for this sort of thing, by the way, I think of it in terms of a rut or a stuck record, not in terms of "groovy.") and when ordered to do something, you feel the negative emotions you've described above. When you hear the order, try at that moment to remember how it felt to be unowned, free, when you could follow your own grooves to your heart's consent and nobody interfered. Pleasant, wasn't it? (that's sarcasm, of course). The point is to remember how wonderful it is to be controlled and to have someone giving you orders. Recapture the joy of serving you felt when you first entered the arrangement, when every order was a pleasure to obey, because they came from him.

Or, feel a perverse delight in having your will thwarted. I'm not sure what you meant by 24/7 but for most of us who crave slavery, it's fun to be controlled, fun to have our wills and desires frustrated, fun to just mindlessly drop whatever "important" thing we were doing and just obey. Try to recapture that sense of fun, that sense of delight in being controlled and not getting your way, but knowing he's getting His way.

The feelings you describe at having to break off something you are doing (frustrated, sulky, unhappy, irritable) are warning signs that you do not feel the reality of your ownership strongly enough and that the arch-enemy of all slaves, your ego, is getting in your way, making your business more important than his. If you are describing your own personal situation, then your words suggest you are acutely aware of this, that you are putting your own desires before your master's and regarding your own interests as more important, when in truth his are the only ones that count, when you are enslaved. Try to recapture the joy that is natural for a slave to feel when given something to do by the man she adores. Or try to recapture how pleasant it is to just mindlessly obey without thinking about yourself or your personal goals, just serve without thinking about it, with alacrity, happy to be of use, content with what you are given. Again, your master can help you immensely with this process if he desires it for you.

It's easy to say these things, much harder to do them. Honestly, you can't do this all on your own. Your master has to be willing or desirous of making your more obedient. But maybe he is happy with you at the level you are at now. Maybe he doesn't mind that you sometimes feel these negative emotions when yanked away from personal business. If that is the case, and if you crave more control, then you may be in a difficult spot. All one can do in this situation (when I was there I did this) is obey your master to the best of your ability and try to be the type of servant he wants you to be at exactly the level he wants you to be at. Some dominants give their submissives a great deal of freedom. That can be galling if you crave to live under more of an iron thumb. I'm not sure what can be done in that situation besides trying to make the best of it and to absorb his ideals and values of your service into yourself so that you see them as being right and of the utmost importance, even if such goals involve a lot of self-absorption or hedonistic indulgence on your part.




HeatherMcLeather -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/10/2011 9:37:30 PM)

I'm conflicted by your post. So much of it seems to make so much sense, but something about it bothers me. I'm not sure what it is just yet. Maybe after I sleep on it...




LillyBoPeep -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/11/2011 3:31:51 AM)

talking was always a good start to me; ask for help. trying to identify what you're asking for help with can be tricky, but it often comes out in the wash when you're talking. if you are in a relationship where you have to ask for permission to "speak freely," then try that.
i think we all run into things we don't want to do, or would rather not do, but have to. though all of the names used together confuses me, too. =p i'd avoid a semantics chat, but to me, the motivations of sub and slave might overlap at times, but at other times they are VERY different. (take that with a grain of salt, of course, because one person's sub is another person's "slave who doesn't use 'slave' as a title," which i totally understand -- that was what i was learning to be in my last relationship =p haha)

there are some people, regardless of the word they use to define themselves, who would institute boundaries to prevent that from happening, however that's probably not what you're going for, so i really think talking about the feelings your're having would be really helpful. maybe it's that you're feeling unfulfilled in those other areas of your life -- maybe you feel like parts of you are unimportant to your Master? that works for some people in their relationships, but not for others -- i know for me, in a long-term relationship, if my M wasn't interested in the various facets of who i am, i would feel stifled. i would wonder why he wanted me in the first place. so when a brief foray into those things is "interrupted," it feels more catastrophic than it would otherwise, because you're subconsciously feeling that he just doesn't care about them anyway.

or you're simply struggling with an aspect of being human? we've all had those moments where we just didn't want to do anything. sometimes we wake up on the wrong side of the bed, sometimes we're having PMS and getting emotional. in those cases, for me, it's best to examine my feelings and see if the cause is something fleeting like that -- if it IS, then i just tell myself "it's just one of those days" and power through it; rather than blow up something that's awesome 99% of the time, i try to tell the emotions to cool it, since they'll probably be gone tomorrow. =p




sunshinemiss -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/11/2011 3:33:42 AM)

Hi heather -
Could it be that Roma tends to tell people what to do rather than actually answering the question / explaining her own experience?  Asher didn't ask for any advice.  She didn't talk about her own relationship at all.  She just asked for other people's experiences.  Roma made the presumption that there was a problem and that advice was warranted.  She then proceeded to tell Asher what to do about a situation despite acknowledging that she didn't know whether it was relevant.  She tends to talk in a "you, you, you" manner which automatically puts others on the defensive rather than talking about herself.  I always find that kind of unenlightened.  It doesn't bother me generally.

best,
sunshine





agirl -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/11/2011 4:47:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Asherscorp1

My question is primarily for those in a 24/7 relationship but of course anyone's thoughts are welcomed. There are certain expectations in being someone's "pet" "slave" "sub" all day every day and of course I know the majority of the time we sub/slaves meet these happily, even feeling very priveleged to do so. What about those times you just don't enjoy it? Say your plans, activity, mind-set whatever is completely disrupted to obey a command from, or fill a desire of, your Master?

If it leaves you feeling, frustrated, sulky, unhappy, irritable, etc how do you channel that and get on with your day? Do you swallow it, do you discuss it, do you let it run it's course and ignore it in the mean time? What's your experience?


Generally he doesn't disrupt my plans for anything other than a *jolly good reason* and certainly NOT to fulfil some desire of his.

I do have those feelings at times though, usually when I want to do something badly, have made plans in my head before I've even asked him and when I tell him, he might say......*home by 11pm, though*. Me, being me......I dislike being curtailed and I can get very frustrated and sometimes sulky.

He couldn't care less in those circumstances....As long as I come home by 11pm, as far as he's concerned I can do it with a good grace or not.....as long as I do it.

OR...... he'll say *Fine...feel free to stay out as long as you like but for every minute after 11pm there'll be a cane stroke*

So now I've been given a choice. I can stay out and *buy* every minute after 11 pm or I can come home at a reasonable time. He's not daft because I then spend the evening watching the damn clock and ruining a perfectly good evening just because I'm stubborn.

The difference really is that I suffer from my own nature......not because he's asked something of me for himself.

I'm not really at all used to having to *do stuff* for M, to the detriment of myself or my plans, we don't have the type of relationship that has much basis in serving, it doesn't really interest either of us. We're both pretty accomodating.

agirl








aromanholiday -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/11/2011 5:43:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

I'm conflicted by your post. So much of it seems to make so much sense, but something about it bothers me. I'm not sure what it is just yet. Maybe after I sleep on it...


Sounds good. :) It's certainly not worth loosing sleep over.




Asherscorp1 -> RE: He threw off my groove ... what now? (6/11/2011 7:42:32 AM)

Interesting responses, my question actually stemmed from a discussion my friend and I were having about raising our toddlers. I came home and talked to M about that and started noticing how similar raising a child is to "training" an adult. Obviously there are oceans of difference as well but I did notice similarities and instead of asking from the Master's side what is done with a sulky or petulant slave I thought I'd ask how other slaves curb or deal with this behavior in themselves. My experience is that if something required of me makes me grumpy at that moment I get a stern, "Pet, stop," then we will talk about it if needed, which it usually isn't. If something M requires causes a huge disruption in my day or results in having to cancel plans and I am disappointed or seem sad about that then M will make sure it's nothing serious, pet me and make sure I feel valued then let it run it's course and just ignore it.




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