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HannahLynHeather -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 1:43:08 PM)

not that weird, not that out there, and certainly not fucking rare.

the trick is to find yourself a domme who is both into it and not all wrapped up in stupid assed ideas of the rights of the public and shit. the whole idea of a "non-consenting public" is stupid. no its more than stupid, its fucking retarded.

fuck the public. its your life and they have no fucking say in how you live it. try on the panties and prance around the store in them if that's what gets you all hot and spermy. if somebody doesn't want to see you doing it (i know i sure as fuck wouldn't), then tough shit for them. they can look away or leave.

you're not responsible for the reactions of other people. their issues and hang ups are their fucking problem, not yours. you live with and deal with your issues and hang ups and leave the rest of the world to deal with theirs.



Wheldrake -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 2:06:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

I hate seeing young men with their pants down so low that their underwear shows.  It's offensive to me.


Really? Underwear is just cloth. I have to admit I've always found this mindset a bit hard to fathom... but then, maybe that's the whole point. We're all offended by different things. Prayer, corporate jargon and excessive political correctness are pretty high on my personal list.

I don't feel any desire to be publicly humiliated myself, but I pretty much agree with you and Sekhemet about the reasonableness of this kink (and it's nice to have the perspective of someone with actual knowledge of retail). I'm sure there are much better ways of annoying sales staff and scaring away fellow customers than buying "inappropriate" items, and at some point "not involving the non-consenting public" crosses over into pandering to narrow-mindedness and puritanism. Sometimes the non-consenting public just needs to grow the fuck up.



themerch -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 3:14:48 PM)

Wow I didnt expect much of a response and it is fascinating reading you differing views and to me, mostly valid too. The desire has been in me since child hood and I am 38 now. I think it is something I need to get out of my system. I agree with the sentiment that you should not make any one uncomfortsble like a sales girl in a lingerie shop and certainly notcomming out of a dressing room in a bra etc. It is not right or fair and I probably could not cope anyway with that level of exposure. The level I could probably cope with is for a girl to pick out bra's and so on, then put them up against me. Maybe make me buy them handing over the money wearing painted false nails, try on high heals. The turn on for me is to see girls have a laugh and a giggle at my expense.

I agree with what you say rochsub. The fantasy of being forcibly humilaited in this way although very real and scary to me is almost a lie when it is also a desire. For me humiliation is when when you are forced to go beyond your limits of comfort with any control over the situation. Blackmail is a major factor of my fanatsy. I posted this because i am going to see if I can explore the fantasy in the real world. There are escorts who are certainly willing to give this ago and I am sure one of the local pro dommes may be willing although this I have not checked out yet. I wanted to see what type of reaction people would give to this. I know in the real world it can never be done forcibly where I am unable to back out if I get out of my comfort zone. To try and make it more uncomfortable and vulnerable for me I have considered the idea a vibrating butt plug in me and a collar round my penis that can send an electric shock if I refuse to comply, but that is stretching the imagination.

Thank you for responses.xx



LadyHibiscus -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 7:02:22 PM)

Thanks for being a cool guy, Merch! Honestly, your wish isn't that extreme, I think you could find a nice woman to help you out. Shoot, I'd go shopping with you if you were local!



Rochsub2009 -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 7:27:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wheldrake

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

I hate seeing young men with their pants down so low that their underwear shows.  It's offensive to me.


Really? Underwear is just cloth.



Okay, let me clarify.  You're right.  "Offensive" was probably too strong a word.  I don't find it to be offensive.  Rather, I find myself thinking "what a stupid fashion that is". 

Same with the loud music.  It doesn't offend me.  But I do find myself thinking "turn that crap down, you idiot.  You're going to be deaf by the time you're 25."

So it probably would have been more accurate to say that I think those behaviors are "stupid" rather than offensive.



SexyBossyBBW -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 7:36:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
not a strange fetish. quite common, actually. But consider, if you will, the non  consensuality of involving others who are not involved in your  dynamic
Exactly what she said!
I have accidentally done it, while shopping for comfy panties at jockeys. I was with a boy, he offers me a size too small for me; I reply, my butt is too big for that, but it might fit you. The two middle aged ladies accross from us looked up at us. He was smirking, I was blushing, and looking down. M



Rochsub2009 -> RE: public humiliation? (6/9/2011 7:42:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: themerch
I posted this because i am going to see if I can explore the fantasy in the real world. There are escorts who are certainly willing to give this ago and I am sure one of the local pro dommes may be willing although this I have not checked out yet.



Actually, I think you're not being optimistic enough.  As we've already mentioned, what you seek is a very common fantasy.  I'll bet the majority of the male subs on here have probably had to go shopping for girly clothes (that were actually for themselves).  I certainly have.  I really don't think you'll have much difficulty realizing this fantasy if you really desire to.

But I wouldn't suggest starting with an escort or pro domme.  Instead, I'd suggest that you go to a munch.  I haven't looked at your profile, but I'm sure there's probably one somewhere near you.  Go to a munch and meet some people in the local BDSM community.  You seem like a pretty level-headed guy.  I'm sure that one of the local Dommes would be happy to have you serve her.  Then you will be able to experience the things you've described, and so much more.  And most importantly, you won't have to pay for it.  [;)]

Good luck in your search.



themerch -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 3:08:58 AM)

Thanks for all the feedback. Well I gave it a go with a mistress. In a shoe shop the sales girls though it was fantastic. I was taken into the back for greater privacy and had a pair of shoes chosen for me. One of the sales girls told me she was really fascinated in the concept of crossdressing and was so enthusiastic. In a lingerie department a woman helped chose my underwear and at a makeup counter was given advice on makeup. It surprised me how tolerant people were and it felt like they took as much pleasure in it as I did.



thishereboi -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 5:16:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: themerch

I have a what i think is a strange fetish. To be taken to a shopping centre and made to be embarrassed by a women in front of sales girls in places such as ann summers, make up stores, dress shops etc. for example made to buy sexy underwear and ensuring the sales girls know it is for me etc.

Sound wierd? and would it be a type of thing dominant women could enjoy, have a laugh at some ones expense in this way?


Why would I want to make some random clerk in a store uncomfortable, just so you can get your kink on?

But have no fear. You may get the humiliation you crave in this thread.



thishereboi -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 5:20:48 AM)

My problem with it was from this statement.

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ensuring the sales girls know it is for me etc


To me that sounds like he is trying to get a reaction from them.



themerch -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 5:21:17 AM)

the clerks were not uncomfortable in any way. It appears to have made there day



thishereboi -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 5:22:35 AM)

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WHY do you assume they will find any degree of discomfort in your even being there?


If they were perfectly ok with it, then it would not be humiliating. There would be no point.



themerch -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 5:24:57 AM)

Well the last thing i would want is to cause discomfort to anyone and that never happened, and it was embarrasing for me



DarkSteven -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 6:03:37 AM)

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ORIGINAL: themerch

Thanks for all the feedback. Well I gave it a go with a mistress. In a shoe shop the sales girls though it was fantastic. I was taken into the back for greater privacy and had a pair of shoes chosen for me. One of the sales girls told me she was really fascinated in the concept of crossdressing and was so enthusiastic. In a lingerie department a woman helped chose my underwear and at a makeup counter was given advice on makeup. It surprised me how tolerant people were and it felt like they took as much pleasure in it as I did.


And you'll shop at that store again should you ever need women's clothes again.  Good sales staff.



VaguelyCurious -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 6:29:54 AM)

FR

Just from a crossdressing perspective rather than a humiliation one:

The guys that I know who've gone into shops with a positive and unashamed outlook and asked for help choosing women's things to wear have, in general, been received with warmth and positivity and no attempt at shaming. That's par for the course - if you're happy and confident then people want to help you out, whether that's buying wood for carpentry or buying a dress and a pair of killer stilettos.



PeonForHer -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 6:58:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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WHY do you assume they will find any degree of discomfort in your even being there?


If they were perfectly ok with it, then it would not be humiliating. There would be no point.



I don't see that as necessary logic at all. People frequently either don't care or enjoy seeing someone look or act in a way that, for instance, looks silly.



LadyConstanze -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 7:53:28 AM)

A friend of mine found it a bit humiliating to just ask for lady's shoes in his size, but he was very respectful and just told the shop assistant that they are for him, I mean they are there to sell the shoes, he wasn't forcing his kink on them, he just said he is looking for shoes in a certain size and style. Ended usually with the shop assistant asking lots of interested questions, which made him squirm a bit more.



erieangel -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 8:07:45 AM)

I've always been a firm believer in teaching my kids not to be embarrassed about purchasing "inappropriate" items. My son bought his first box of tampons for me when he was 17, he fought me about going, but i told him he can never tell what he might have to do in the future and to never be ashamed. He still goes for my tampons and other things he doesn't want to buy quite frequently. And he doesn't have a problem with it.



themerch -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 1:16:47 PM)

Dark Steven, yeah i probably would



AAkasha -> RE: public humiliation? (6/27/2011 3:13:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: themerch

the clerks were not uncomfortable in any way. It appears to have made there day



Do you think you would have enjoyed it more (on a deep level, not on the surface) if the women working there were shocked or laughing at you, vs. being very professional about it?

It can be tricky with male subs; some want to be laughed at deep down, and others just enjoy the discomfort of the situation and a tolerant, helpful staff is ideal for them.

Akasha



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