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farglebargle -> WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/10/2011 9:03:57 PM)

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/06/10/239780/wisconsin-craft-beer/

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But why would Walker — who calls small businesses the “backbone of our economy” and has postured himself as their champion — side with a foreign-owned mega-corporation over locally owned small brewers? It may have to do with the fact that MillerCoors, which is joint venture with foreign-owned SABMiller, donated $22,675 to his campaign.




tazzygirl -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/10/2011 9:09:25 PM)

An additional question would be who the local breweries backed in the past election.




Owner59 -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/10/2011 11:55:14 PM)

Hmmmmm .........beer good.....

errrrr!..... Walker bad!




Fellow -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 12:43:03 AM)

Some economists claim the destruction of the US manufacturing has most to do with the government and very little to do with the cost of labor.
Link: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article28563.html




geilematz -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 12:47:59 AM)

didn't anyone notice that the destruction of small companies was the business of some big companies?




Termyn8or -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 1:18:23 AM)

"Link: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article28563.html "

That is a very interesting article, and I think it has to be at least partly true. We could be under some major misconceptions here, and if so, have very little chance of solving the problems.

T^T




Edwynn -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 5:18:48 AM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: geilematz

didn't anyone notice that the destruction of small companies was the business of some big companies?




Yes. "Rent seeking" and "creating barriers to entry" are a couple of terms that have been around and the concept well known for decades. But if you like to think you are the first to notice, that's OK too.







Edwynn -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 5:33:11 AM)



"Some economists claim the destruction of the US manufacturing has most to do with the government and very little to do with the cost of labor. "

Link: http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article28563.html


The writer is not an economist, he's a business consultant.

Not the most coherent article I've ever read. Not to mention that it doesn't explain why German and Japanese car companies have set up so many factories in the US.

I'd say the employment problems in the US have more to do with the incompetancy of management than with the government. In Germany and for the most part in Japan, the company leaders have their education degree in physics or chemistry or engineering or whater else the company manufactures. In the US they all have a business administration degree, no matter what the manufacturing is that they are 'managing.'

The compensation package for US CEOs, especially the stock options, promotes and encourages short term high pay-offs, so consequently short term thinking in general.









mnottertail -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 6:24:00 AM)

We have ample proofs that regardless of how they howl and slobber, 'republicans' are strictly the slaves of the military-industrial complex, having thrown Eisenhower under the bus from the moment he said it, and out to destroy individuals and small business on their way to destroying America.

Nothing to see here, move along people.    




xssve -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 11:01:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwynn



quote:

ORIGINAL: geilematz

didn't anyone notice that the destruction of small companies was the business of some big companies?




Yes. "Rent seeking" and "creating barriers to entry" are a couple of terms that have been around and the concept well known for decades. But if you like to think you are the first to notice, that's OK too.

No, of course these are well established pitfalls of unregulated capitalism, but given the rights unrelenting propaganda campaign to redefine capitalism as per Rand, accompanied by dismantling the regulatory state, which protects those doing business ethically from those who aren't ("let the market decide" whereas often this is too late - see the Chinese Melamine incident), the profit-is-all ethic, which absolves corporations from any social responsibility other than making profit, down to more sinister propaganda disseminated largely through AEI, (see: Charles Murray, Dinesh D'Souza) racial, gender, and class bias wrapped in pseudo-scientific, neo-philosophical jargon, all of which is designed to undermine the confidence of their own constituency and milking the resulting paranoia - another established modus operandi, favored by authoritarian regimes the world over.

In short, Adam Smith is too hard to read, the "dismal science", Rand is more exciting, full of epic dramatism - amused to death?

i.e., the Red states are the beneficiaries of an inordinate share of wealth redistribution, with fairly good reason: most of the economic action, and hence tax revenues, originate on the coasts, where more international business takes place and businesses tend to aggregate due to a more diverse labor pool, transportation, communications, etc., and the problem here is get the largest beneficiaries of tax investment to back a decline in that revenue stream when taxes are cut on the upper quintile, itself largely a cheap political ploy, since in a robust economy, income growth in the top quintile invariably more than offsets any losses from taxation.

Middle America has been hit the hardest by the decline in manufacturing and the growing agribusiness hegemony displacing family farms (monetarism again, which controls wages by manipulating the interest rate to maintain a favorable rate of exchange, a boon to import and outsourcing, but puts exporters at a steep disadvantage, the midwest was devastated by Reagan's "strong dollar" in the Eighties), and some sort of investment needs to be made before it turns into a permanent rust belt, a toxic, meth addicted wasteland.

For multinationals, this just means potential cheap labor, just not as cheap as the Pacific rim yet.




housesub4you -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 11:10:56 AM)

It was CoorsMiller or Miller coors who donated a ton of cash to his camp.




xssve -> RE: WI Gov. Scott Walker’s War On Craft Beer and Small Business (6/11/2011 11:15:44 AM)

In any case, yes, the neo-con strategy is thinly disguised corporatism, one of the every first things G.W. Bush announced was his intention to dismantle the SBA as a symbol of "wasteful" government spending ("let the market work") - the SBA happens to be one of the most successful government programs ever, generating more than enough economic activity, jobs, tax revenues to pay for itself and show a "profit") - small businesses are the primary mode of social and economic mobility and the decline in small businesses mirrors the decline in social-economic mobility.

War, by contrast, is a big fucking hole you throw money into.




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