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Aneirin -> RE: Islamism, we caused it, but there is hope (6/12/2011 10:29:35 AM)
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We as in certain countries in Europe, Britain amongst them are those that became an enemy after the defeat of the Ottoman Empire and furthermore, see the film Lawrence of Arabia for evidence of British underhand dealings in the region, T.E.Lawrence was against it, but fool he for believing the lies of those in high places, but honour and trust is an alien thing to those who desire to' make' from any situation.
Yes, so Britain amongst others pissed about in the region and with that pissed people off, now one thing that is apparent when people become oppressed in some way, is religion takes a hold and with religion there is always those who will use religion to propel their own agendas. But what agendas and why, well, perhaps those that have such agendas have good reason to form them, it doesn't take much, think about it what it would take for yourself to hate so much that you were prepared to risk death to achieve your aims. It is simply not just revenge, but a madness can take hold, an irrational madness where the more and more killing has to be done to sate a desire that acts more like an addiction.
But the lecture was from a Muslim who could be described as a moderate or even a modern Muslim, a guy who does not see the sense of much of what the Muslim world does, so has set out to educate himself and others, that what others are seeing is not what it is all about, but some have perverted the faith over the centuries, I suppose just like Christianity was perverted by the Catholic church to unclude many crimes against humanity and perhaps in some ways still does via church doctrine in other lands.
But of those educated people that did 9/11, as to their mind set, I have but one idea, mental illness, depression even, for that disease can change many and when one is in the grip of depression, one becomes susceptible to all kinds of input, and with depression it is known many choose religion to try and find a way out of it.
But why depression, such highly educated people, well, perhaps after all the hard work and study to become whatever, the realities of the end result do not live up to expectation and that coupled with one's personal moralities, a common ocurrenence, dissatisfaction with life and then choose your enemy to blame.
Just as an end note, how I come up with my ideas is based upon my own experience with depression, how I become depressed and I was at the point of beyond suicide ideation many times, but in that false life that is depression, I did venture into some pretty dark and destructive religious beliefss and developed an intense hatred for certain things in society, things to blame for my situation, and doing something about it I admit did come to mind on a few occaisions. I am Largely out of it now, but my hatred is replaced with cynicism about society, in time perhaps that may itself may morph into something else, but I have the ability to see some of the things men do, whereas I would never have thought it possible before.
Therefore I feel in wondering what propelled the 9/11 perpetrators, one needs to look at mental illness more than religion, as simple depression can lead to much, very much indeed.
So, America, you are off the hook in this situation, we, the Brits amongst others caused it and many Brits are sad for our country's meddlings overseas, but that does not mean as we caused it, you can add to it, so you or rather those that say they act on your behalf should also watch your step in countries that are not your own.
Edited due to too many typos, but the keyboard lacks certain keys and the brain is a bit foggy at the moment
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