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Standing strappado. - 5/14/2006 11:40:18 PM

HarryVanWinkle

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I'm a mostly submissive switch who sometimes tops at Play Parties at Desert Dominion. There's a submissive girl there who is very masochistic and VERY flexible. She says she's done strappado before and that her arms can point 45 degrees upwards behind her back. I'm considering putting her in such a positions, standing, at next week's party, then tickling (she's also a tickle freak) and torturing her while she's in it. She says she can only hold that position for about twenty minutes, so whatever I do while I've got her there will be pretty fast.

My concern is how to do this safely. I'm worried about the possibility of her knees buckling while in the strappado, thus putting all her weight onto her shoulders, possibly dislocating them. We've never had to call 911 at Desert Dominion yet, and I don't want to be the cause of our doing it for the first time. Does anybody have some suggestions?

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/15/2006 3:45:50 AM

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If you're that concerned, the most obvious choice is not to do it....

But there are almost always options. I'm not familiar with play parties etc but if you're not that confident of monitoring her closely or safely, can't someone else be seconded to keep an eye on her?

Or possibly my most practical suggestion of all, since I'm used to adapting in private play.... How about having her straddle an 'A frame' while in the strappado? I dunno what you have available but I built my own adjustible height A frame that'd be perfect between her legs should her knees buckle - basically she'd just sit down on it!

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/15/2006 6:10:00 AM

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Just add a safety rope to her waist. That way, no matter what happens, she's ok. She might be really sore and pissed- but she won't have a concussion or broken bones.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/15/2006 6:55:25 AM

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Put her on her knees to begin with, possible with her head touching the floor, too. Or, put her on a spanking bench, the do the strappado with her arms.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/15/2006 8:03:31 AM

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*&%^%*(((%$# !!!!!!

LA once again beat me to the point and as usual with less verbiage! I can add one detail though, don't call it a "safety harness" call it bondage and do some nice ropework so that it adds to the scene.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/17/2006 1:28:26 PM

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Dear HarryVanWinkle, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I agree having a support as to catch before the shoulders are dislocated. My personal favorite is using a parachute harness, which places the strain more at the legs and thighs then the waist alone. Waistline is not a solid, as the stomach and the rise and fall of breathing will not have a solid form of bondage with little give.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/17/2006 9:35:01 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear HarryVanWinkle, Ladies and Gentlemen;

I agree having a support as to catch before the shoulders are dislocated. My personal favorite is using a parachute harness, which places the strain more at the legs and thighs then the waist alone. Waistline is not a solid, as the stomach and the rise and fall of breathing will not have a solid form of bondage with little give.

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Lady Hugs and other responders,

Thank you for the suggestions. The parachute harness sounds like an excellent idea, but is, alas, out of my price range this week. After discussing the idea with a few people at Desert Dominion, what I've decided to do is make a harness around her chest using rope. Our rope bondage mentor there will be assisting me with this. I am also considering lifting one of her feet off the ground and using the ankle of it to anchor the strappado. This if she wants to lower her arms a bit, all she has to do is raise her leg higher and vice versa.

In response to Focus, one of the advantages of a play party at a club, such as Desert Dominion, is the fact that there is always a Dungeon Monitor keeping an eye out for the safety of all players. Another advantage is that for just about any type of scene, there are people with experience in it willing to mentor the less experienced. A play party is the only place I would consider doing such a scene with my current lack of experience at topping.

Also, MasterFireMaam, thank you for the excellent suggestion as well. While I have my heart kind of set on having the sub standing this time, I will definitely keep your ideas in mind for another time.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/18/2006 6:02:10 AM

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quote:

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Our rope bondage mentor there will be assisting me with this. I am also considering lifting one of her feet off the ground and using the ankle of it to anchor the strappado. This if she wants to lower her arms a bit, all she has to do is raise her leg higher and vice versa.

I still always say if you're doing any sort of suspension to have a clear safety line from the waist. Otherwise, something could snap due to being imbalanced.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/18/2006 12:58:58 PM

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though I'm fairly inexperienced at rope bondage, I'd have to agree with LA about steering clear of the "safety line" around the chest and going with one around the waist/hips area instead... the first thing that jumped into mind with Me was the self-tied swiss harness we were taught to make out of rope for rappelling when I was in the Army... just as functional as a parachute rig around the waist, and looks all shibari-like too.

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RE: Standing strappado. - 5/20/2006 7:20:57 AM

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How about a pelvic harness as a backup, so if her knees give out her support would be transferred to her hips?

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Update. - 5/21/2006 1:37:14 AM

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Well, we did it tonight and it went well. Our resident rope bondage expert tied a harness around her chest. I looped the rope from it twice around the bar in the ceiling that our hoist is attached to and got a volunteer to anchor her. That way, I was able to give her more and less slack as needed.

She never did lose her footing, in spite of my best efforts. It didn't hurt her arms or shoulders at all. The biggest problem was her back, which started aching from her bent over position. That was about twenty minutes into the scene, at which point I decided to end it. I had planned on it being a pretty short scene anyhow.

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