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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 7:29:42 PM   
Wolf2Bear


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ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

The direction of motion of this thread is hilarious. And yet sad. Wahlarious.

I think the enforcement of "no personal attacks" should be dialed up. The type people I find most interesting are not joining and sticking around. There are objectively better discussions elsewhere. I would be fine with freezing out several regular posters here. The clicks they contribute do not make up for the ones lost. The disparity in conversation about the lesbian sex war thread I started was dramatic. The Fet thread was PhD quality, and the cm thread was third grade.

A lot of people have been here too long, and think they own the place, and can say whatever, whenever, and it will cost at most a week in the penalty box. The problem the site is facing is not that people are leaving; it is that new people are not sticking.


Yet also realize how Cm is set up is also a different manner to how Fet is set up...so yes, each site will attract their own separate types of people. I really have to wonder where is that happy medium in moderation here? If one looks back a couple years, the moderation on CM was in major contention due to many posters complained that certain moderator were either extremely biased or they worked according to their own agenda. I still recall a few regular posters here being accused of being mods. Now we have moderators who are in most cases, fair and quite often not so severe in their dealings with unruly posters. So where is that happy medium? As for Fet, it is the individuals who create the groups and thus they are given  greater control over the spamming, the trolling and the flame wars. In that sense yes it is great yet it hasn't quite the ease this site does for finding a favourite topic or returning to a post you have commented on previously. Each has it's own assets and deficits in my eyes.

Each one of us came to CM for our own reasons and many have moved on. That is fine. Whether many of the long time posters have out stayed their welcome; well that is not for any of us to say other than it's a person's own choice to stay or leave.  I readily admit I spend less and less time here because I got all I needed from being on this site almost everyday. Even my time spent on the other site is abouty as frequent as I am here. It is not because of the lack of moderation, it is because I have found what I was seeking.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 7:31:20 PM   
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I actually think that the mods have swung too far to the kinder, gentler side of things. And should be bitch slapping people more often and faster instead of giving them innumerable chances which are undeserved.



Yep. I didn't dig today being called a bitch and told to "shut the fuck and block me then bitch". Yeah. Not cool. I mean if that is ok, then yay, I will take that as me being allowed to use the same language and not fear moderation. Cool.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 7:36:44 PM   
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I always wonder about the people who complain about this site while comparing it to Fet. Apparently Fet is wonderfully moderated, the quality of discussion is learned and erudite, and nobody swears or ever takes jabs at other posters.

My question is, why do you spend time here with our grade school intellects, blatantly biased moderation, and all the endless personal attacks and childish insults? Why, if Fet is so obviously superior, do you waste your time here with us morons?


This site has played a critical role in my life, and I have helped to build it in some small ways. I'm invested. I'm not going to leave just because the boards currently look the way they do. The problem is fixable. The personals still is a draw Fet does not have, so people will investigate the boards. The newbie traffic is not an issue per se. Retention is.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 7:39:15 PM   
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As for Fet, it is the individuals who create the groups and thus they are given  greater control over the spamming, the trolling and the flame wars. In that sense yes it is great yet it hasn't quite the ease this site does for finding a favourite topic or returning to a post you have commented on previously. Each has it's own assets and deficits in my eyes.


I agree with this. There are a few things that keep me off of fetlife, for one, I see it as a great tool to meet local people. I liked that about it. I did not like its discussion interface. It is cumbersome to use, hard to follow, and does not allow for much individuality in executing posts,...and that was the technical aspect of it that I found unfavorable.

It was great to talk to a group of people that get along, and often it is nice to have uncontentious discussions... but in my experience, when the group is restricted like so many of the groups are on fet, it makes conversation boring. I want to hear from people who think differently than I do. I want interchange from people I would not naturally gravitate towards on different topics. I like that there are some topics that I agree with some people on, but disagree with them on others. I think that is how horizons broaden...

My experience with fetlife is that there was a good deal of compartmentalization of topics, so you could find groups that agree with you. In my experience I never learned a great deal by only interacting with people that agreed with me. I have never had a conversation of any import on an academic level where everyone was playing grab ass with each other agreeing about everything.... knowledge comes by challenge. I do not mind being challenged. I find CM much more intellectually challenging than the conversations I had on fetlife, just because I do not get to choose who shows up here. I actually appreciate that... but that environment is not for everyone.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 7:56:42 PM   
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...My experience with fetlife is that there was a good deal of compartmentalization of topics, so you could find groups that agree with you. In my experience I never learned a great deal by only interacting with people that agreed with me. I have never had a conversation of any import on an academic level where everyone was playing grab ass with each other agreeing about everything.... knowledge comes by challenge. I do not mind being challenged. I find CM much more intellectually challenging than the conversations I had on fetlife, just because I do not get to choose who shows up here. I actually appreciate that... but that environment is not for everyone.


Yes very much so. I had been moderated may times on Fet in the past year I've been there and learned to be more selective and self censoring to what I will post. Though the groups I am part of, part of the reason why I chose them was they do offer a challenge intellectually due to the large number of members. And it is as you stated: that environment is not for everyone and that also applies to here. We all gravitate to where we feel is best suited for ourselves.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 8:03:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		These are a few random comments that occurred to Me after reading the last few pages. 

The thing about not calling people trolls.  I've mentioned the word troll or troll-goblin (so as not to be confused with FukinTroll) probably ten times in the last few days.  That 'you must be one to be able spot one stuff' is kind of silly.  If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, I really don't have to be one to figure out that it's probably A DUCK.  It's an internet site, we get internet trolls.  Anybody who's been on the site a year can probably name half a dozen of them by screen name.

Moderation on Fet or that Fet's a better site, Red?  I could have sworn that was you who made a post about how terrible folks were treating new people with questions on the "Ask the Experts" group.  Seems you were the same one who was good enough to inform folks when there was a group created that was specifically dedicated to publicizing people's names and discussing blacklisting.  Yes, that issue was resolved, but these are the things you have brought up about Fet in just the past month.  We've got members here who are Moderators there who do vent about the other site, so let's not try to make it seem like something it's not.

The prior moderation was different.  I had disagreements with some of the calls made, but it wasn't ever due to unfairness.  I was on several threads back then that I had no bone to pick with Eleven and I still don't. 

Anybody who has raised two kids can tell you that a single incident where they were both involved may not result in the same consequences for each.  If one kid has cut class six times in a semester and the last time happened to do it with your other child, the kid who has done it six times (repeat offender) is going to be in hotter water than the kid who got caught doing it the first time.  They skipped the same day, but one is a pattern and the other is not. 

When people get put on moderation for one thing (the dear [awaiting approval] bit) and they continue the behavior that got them there in the first place or find additional ways to try the patience of the moderators, either during that moderation or after their time is over, they are just continuing the pattern.  The fact that they want to moan, 'well look at what somebody else is doing' is exactly what I'd have expected out of one of My kids who hadn't matured yet.  Thankfully, they are adults now.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 8:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		You see, that's where we differ. I happen to like the way these boards look, if anything I wish the Mods would back off a little more. In my view, the problem you want to fix is the fix to a problem that existed before, one you seem to want to recreate.

I'm not worried about newbies staying or not, the ones who like the place will stick around, and those that don't won't. Its no skin off my back one way or the other. I was a newbie, I stuck around. You were a newbie, you stuck around. We all stuck around.

I like that this site has always been more open and freewheeling than Fet. That's why I've been hanging out here pretty much every day for the last 5-1/2 years, and why I only poke my head into Fet once every year or two. I don't like that site, I like this one. And I sincerely hope this place always stays different. I object to people who like Fet trying to make CM more like Fet. If you like that site better, hang out there, and let those of us who prefer the way this one works hang out here.

The mods do a damned good job here. Is it perfect? Nope, but darn close if you ask me, the present bunch strike a nice balance, one of the best of all the forums I've been on. As others have pointed out, we are adults. To me that means we don't need a nanny to protect us from nasty words...at least I don't.

If you want to tell me to fuck off, tell me to fuck off. I'm 52 years old and have been an opinionated bugger most of those. I learned to deal with being told off a long, long time ago. I would have thought that by age 43 you would have as well.



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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 8:16:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is no contradiction in my statements, LadyPact. You are jumping from "thread was better" to "site is better" which I neither said nor believe. There are plenty of weaknesses there too. This site is better structured, philosophically.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 9:12:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll give points to Fet where they are due.  I have always said that Fet is better for local groups/events.  Topic discussions, however, I don't find a lot of difference.  While there are basic guidelines to the owners of groups there, how light or heavy the owner of said group applies them varies depending on who's doing it.  If anything, here it is a united front that covers the site, rather than just individual groups.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/18/2011 9:14:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		I"m in a group on the other site that no one else from here is on. The leader of the group posted a rant about the behavior of others at munches. She went on to say it wasn't clear if what she was ranting about was an incident that actually happened or whether it was just a rumor or if it happened at an actual munch. She didn't want us to be rude to people who are in the vicinity of the munch. That part - fair enough. I responded by saying that I felt that the thread was inappropriate and that as a newcomer I didn't feel welcome because I didn't appreciate being scolded en masse. I stated that I would be careful about being in the group if this is how the leadership was behaving. We actually then started having a real discussion about what was appropriate and not. It was turning into a good thread. What happened? The leader (whom I had criticized) shut the thread down. I absolutely believe it is because she was personally criticized. Instead of saying, yeah I shouldn't have done this (which she kind of did) and then allow the actual REAL discussion of ideas, she swept it under the carpet. Well, hell, now I *REALLY* don't want trust the group. A little dictatorship in the making.... thank goodness for one, count them ONE, dude who is totally realistic and reasonable. The other folks? They could be as well, but I don't know them yet. I'm not likely to get to know them well either because of the way moderation is being handled on the group. It's a shame actually.



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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 1:25:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've certainly run into little fiefdoms too, Sunny. However I am putting forth an analysis of site participation, which is that this message board is not retaining new blood. There is a clear direction to flow. Longtime posters who leave one site, are leaving this one, not leaving Fet and spending most of their time here instead. Some of that is unavoidable, because there are bells and whistles like commenting on photos which are not available here. However, if the tone of thread after thread is petty and argumentative, well, what mature person wants to be part if that?

The responses to my post on this thread are a good example. You, LadyPact, and Wolf2Bear had salient points, and we could discuss at length, productively. Other posters chose to cast aspersions about my motivations for making the statement in the first place, or to state "i don't care if new people stay or not, I should be able to say whatever I want, to whomever I want." Those are refusals to engage in concrete discussion, and abrogations of personal responsibility toward producing a better site. It is made even sillier because there were other posters who agreed with my general "fewer personal attacks" suggestion, so this is by no means a personal ego trip I am on. Unless people think that those other posters are my socks.

I was on a thread the other day when a poster said to someone (not me), "dont include me in your petty argument, that reminds me of collarme." Is that really what the site wants to be known for?

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 2:03:36 AM   
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I sometimes need a reminder to not be difficult or nasty. Since I've been having a less "sweet" sunny life the last year or so, I've found some difficulties with the balance between honesty about my perspective versus respecting the other person's. It is a hard road to follow when you've allowed it to be over run by someone else's weeds. Thanks for the reminder to prune my garden of gab.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 2:25:33 AM   
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Those are refusals to engage in concrete discussion, and abrogations of personal responsibility toward producing a better site.
I'm afraid not. What I have attempted to do is engage in a concrete discussion, the way you cavalierly dismiss what I say is proof that you don't really want a concrete discussion, you don't really want dissenting views.

The reason I'm not agreeing with you is because I think your ideas will do the exact opposite of producing a better site. It will make a worse site. You want an emasculated Collarchat, and I don't.

You repeatedly hold up Fet as the example to be emulated, when my point is that there needs to be a difference between the sites, beyond those bells and whistles. This is a site for those who don't like Fet, and Fet is a site for those who don't like it here (yeah, yeah, I know there are plenty of folks who enjoy both sites). I stay here and avoid Fet because this place is ballsier and has a more wide open culture to it. I like this place the way it is, and I really don't want it changed. I like the way the present group of moderators do their job and don't want them to change.

My point is, if you want a site more like Fet, go to Fet. Don't try to turn Collarchat into Fet v2.0. This is my favourite website bar none, and I think doing things your way will ruin it.



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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 2:27:50 AM   
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The responses to my post on this thread are a good example. You, LadyPact, and Wolf2Bear had salient points, and we could discuss at length, productively. Other posters chose to cast aspersions about my motivations for making the statement in the first place, or to state "i don't care if new people stay or not, I should be able to say whatever I want, to whomever I want." Those are refusals to engage in concrete discussion, and abrogations of personal responsibility toward producing a better site. It is made even sillier because there were other posters who agreed with my general "fewer personal attacks" suggestion, so this is by no means a personal ego trip I am on. Unless people think that those other posters are my socks.

In the last couple of days, there have been a couple of folks who were put on moderation.  In My opinion, when folks who aren't contributing to the site in a positive way, and that happens, it's not a great loss.  There is no vested interest for a lot of us to retain the folks who are just plain disruptive here.  What you've got in some cases is the double whammy of folks joining the site who immediately start with personal attacks.  There's another one that's been running around tonight who had at least twelve comments pulled.  Do I care if people like that stay?  Absolutely not.

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I was on a thread the other day when a poster said to someone (not me), "dont include me in your petty argument, that reminds me of collarme." Is that really what the site wants to be known for?

There is a specific group over on the other site to make comments about this one.  In what I have seen, that's a rare comment on the list of complaints.  Far more frequent are the issues related to this place (or the other side at least) being a meat market which produces the two most frequent issues.  I'd even rank the complaints about the moderation here with a higher frequency than your example.

One particular trend that I've noticed on that group is that there has been more vocal disagreement for people who post things that are clearly TOS violations that want to go to that group to complain that the offending material was removed.


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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 2:52:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the number of comments on an issue, especially there, is a good gauge. A lot of complaints there are specifically constructed to avoid personal responsibility, such as "i can't get a date because of the fakes," instead of having poor social skills. There are also regular posters in that group who were banned from here, for good reason.

So quality and context are more important than quantity. The person who made the comment I quoted us active in her local scene on a level similar to your own, and has no history of attacking posts here. If you focus on people in that category, emotional maturity and real time background, the complaint about cm is fairly common.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 3:17:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		In 2010, I confounded a science online community that is now doing rather well. Our attitude, based on successful similar attempts in the past, was that we would make the site enjoyable to experts, and the presence of experts would bring others also, to read and to have a chance to converse as equals with "famous" people.

If a question in ask a master were answered by john warren types (in addition to whomever else), a lot more people would be here. An atmosphere that encourages people with standing to participate will attract others. Instead, the current atmosphere does not attract such people. Someone who says, "this is my favorite site because I can talk to people however I want," is not presenting an argument, unless he is generating traffic of others who specifically look for his posts. The architecture question is: how to maximize participation of people who will produce high quality content. (practical bdsm tips, sensible relationship advice). If that content is easy to find, others will participate and produce more of it. That is what drives site numbers.



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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 3:24:25 AM   
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hey, i like the way the mods do their job. but since i'm one of the fuckers red is wanting to muzzle, that should come as no fucking surprise to anyone.

i also think you are doing exactly what arpig said, you're fucking well avoiding discussion of your idea. you don't address his points at all, you just fucking ignore them. then you even decide to cut him down and misquote him. very fucking passive aggressive of you.

i don't see where you have any fucking proof of this flood of newbies fleeing this site in terror, you keep saying it but that doesn't fucking make it so. personally i think its bullshit. i stuck around because i like the fucking freedom i have around here. fucking right i get modslapped. i've been here a very short time and have on moderation for three fucking weeks already, i've had posts pulled all over the fucking place and had a thread shut down, had another i was arguing on yanked altogether, it just fucking vanished when the shit got to heated and the insults and accusations were flying from all sides (and no i wasn't doing all the insulting, i was the fucking target on that one). i just got a fucking stern warning about some of the shit i posted on the guys suck thread. so, the mods are doing their fucking job, and they're doing a fucking good job of it.

now before you say "oh fuck, of course you stayed hannah, you're the sort of poster who's killing this fucking place" keep in mind that heather stayed as well, and she sure doesn't get into the fucking ranting and raving. that's what's so fucking cool about this place. the differences in the people. the same site can keep crazy bitchface hannah happy, and also keep my pollyanna sweetheart heather happy. its a pretty fucking cool site that can do that. if you ask me.

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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 3:28:15 AM   
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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 3:33:57 AM   
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RE: moderation interpretation? - 6/19/2011 3:34:43 AM   
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