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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 7:57:46 AM

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I'm a bit surprised, you all seem to consume a lot less calories than I do, and I'm not bulking up, nor do I think I lead a terribly active life-style, I usually don't count calories much, just sometimes log what I eat to make sure my diet is balanced, nor do I have a terribly fast metabolism (usually my body temperature is 1 degree Celsius lower than it should be), but I tend to eat rather spicy food and have regular exercise.

If it's not snooping into people's personal affairs, the ones that eat less than 2000 calories a day, could I ask you if you've gone on extreme diets before and therefore messed a bit with your metabolism?

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:11:03 AM

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When I was pre 40's I ate like a horse. I have no idea of my calorie count as it was never an issue. I am sure, in retrospect, it was multiple thousands a day.

After age 40, things began to change in how my body processed those calories. I've spent the last 9 years trying to adjust to the fact that I simply cannot eat like I did when I was younger. If I ate then, like I do now, I would be a skeleton walking. Today I actually exercise and eat healthy and still......it is a constant struggle. I will likely never be as thin as I was 20 years ago, unless I have contracted some terrible wasting illness. Or unless my body does some weird reverse.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:27:56 AM

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How many calories a day you need are dependent upon a few things. How much do you weigh now? How active are you? What do you want to do. Lose fat? Gain Muscle? Maintain what you currently have?. Here is a good site to get you started.

http://www.mypyramidtracker.gov/

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:30:43 AM

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I mean I can't eat like I did in my teens and luckily so, because I was obsessed with exercise and food, I was joking with Hillwilliam (the big white cock) about it the other day, I was manically active and doing competitive kickboxing, you got a weight range there and it was important to stay lean, but I took it a bit too far (needless to say as a teen you tend to do rather stupid things) and while I didn't exactly starve myself, I wasn't eating enough for the amount of exercise I did (about 2 hours a day solid, sometimes more) because for me 40 Kilos was my "ideal" and my mom kept telling me that boobs are mainly fatty tissue, the problem is that I can go down to 45 and it's not a problem, but from 43 to 42 it becomes a problem, my periods will stop (and did) and walking becomes incredibly painful because there aren't enough fat pads left at the bottom of the feet and you walk skin on bones, but my boobs didn't shrink... I seriously don't want to go back to it, I'm hoovering now around 50 Kilos (give or take 2 or 3 depending on the time of the month) and it seems to be the right weight, I'd love to be down to 45 but I'm too lazy. In case I reach 55 (usually after Xmas), I notice because I feel sluggish, horribly depressed and just know I need to change something, I usually cut out all booze (I don't drink much but I like a glass of wine in the evening) and make a point to eat healthier (no refined sugars, etc.) and walk the dogs a bit more briskly, hit the gym an hour more and go to another yoga class, it seems to get things into perspective again, I'm a foodie now and I just can't deal with starvation diets...

But this comment about 40 and everything changes, gosh, you did that on purpose to make me all paranoid, didn't you? I always thought the middle age spread was more due to people getting less active than actually your body changing?

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:45:01 AM

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I thought so also, until I got here. I am quite certain that not everyone shares the same experience so I wouldn't worry. Hell, my paternal grandmother was tiny her whole life and only seems to shrivel as the years passed.

But seriously, I eat so much healthier now than ever before and am quite active......especially in comparison to my 20's and early 30's. Based upon what I know, it's metabolic and hormonal. I am sure that there might be some sort of HRT or something that may, or may not make it easier but I refuse to take that route. I am in excellent health and physical condition. Yesterday when it was miserably hot and humid and I mistakenly wore jeans and a long sleeved shirt based upon the forecast, I was still able to do a sprint from one end of a big fair grounds, past the other end, and through a huge parking lot, several times.......without getting winded.

I am quite healthy and fit, I just have a few more inches of padding over the fit than I would like. But I am not going on some crazy starvation diet to try and change it. I will just keep being active and eating right. It's all I know to do.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:47:40 AM

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quote:

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I'm a bit surprised, you all seem to consume a lot less calories than I do, and I'm not bulking up, nor do I think I lead a terribly active life-style, I usually don't count calories much, just sometimes log what I eat to make sure my diet is balanced, nor do I have a terribly fast metabolism (usually my body temperature is 1 degree Celsius lower than it should be), but I tend to eat rather spicy food and have regular exercise.

If it's not snooping into people's personal affairs, the ones that eat less than 2000 calories a day, could I ask you if you've gone on extreme diets before and therefore messed a bit with your metabolism?

I'm like LaTigresse.

Up until about age 30, I was a pretty hard core gym rat and extremely active.   I never did ANY extreme diets even when I was wrestling in high school and had to make weigh ins, it was easy for me to hold weight and eat like mad. I dieted to get the right calorie intake for what I wanted to do with my weight and to keep a high protein intake, but no fads or diet routines at all.

Around age 37, my appetite went away almost overnight.   I live a light activity lifestyle as I'm on my feat most of the day, but don't exercise other than that.    I pretty much eat what I want, but it's only 1 to 2 meals a day (often times just 1) and a couple of small healthy snacks.

My doctors never believe me when I first describe my eating habits, but it's just the routine for me.   I'm not sure that I would call it normal, but abnormal is the norm for me.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:56:23 AM

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You know hormones could have something to do with it, in my 20's I had cancer surgery and lost one ovary and both tubes, the OB Gyn who did the surgery was fantastic and said I should not take hormones as the other ovary in most cases will take over and produce enough hormones, but it will take a while. 2 years of hell with massive mood shifts, not being sure if I am hot or cold, odd weight gain, I think the only time in my life when I went over 55 kilos and could not shift it (I swear not going through that ever again, when menopause knocks I will be on HRT before anybody can say menopause) then everything went back to normal, I still fit into the clothes I fitted in when I was 20 (kept some jeans and on occasion try them on and yep, feel all smug then) but I have the feeling my body has changed somewhat, despite fitting into the same clothes, I think my body is somewhat thicker, more sturdy... Might be just my perception but it certainly feels that way.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 8:59:25 AM

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That is exactly how I feel now. Just, more sturdy is a great way to describe it.

Don't get me wrong, before I seriously began eating healthy and exercising, I was just.....fat and out of shape. No sugar coating that.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 9:02:15 AM

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I'm a bit surprised, you all seem to consume a lot less calories than I do, and I'm not bulking up, nor do I think I lead a terribly active life-style, I usually don't count calories much, just sometimes log what I eat to make sure my diet is balanced, nor do I have a terribly fast metabolism (usually my body temperature is 1 degree Celsius lower than it should be), but I tend to eat rather spicy food and have regular exercise.

If it's not snooping into people's personal affairs, the ones that eat less than 2000 calories a day, could I ask you if you've gone on extreme diets before and therefore messed a bit with your metabolism?

From checking your profile, it looks like your metabolism is higher than mine. You are taller than I am and you weigh less. And yes, I am in the healthy section of height/weight charts, the BMI chart, and that fat pinch test.

I have never really done extreme dieting. I was an over-weight child and I started Weight Watchers around ten years old. I never really lost weight until after high school, and then it just happened. I am pretty sure that it is genetics, because my mother did the same. Both of my sisters followed the pattern of my aunts and gained weight in their late twenties. HAHAHAHA!

I do tend to gain a bit in the winter and loose in the summer. Except this summer.

Some parts of my job are quite active and some are not. I also chase a toddler and we do, call it toddler aerobics. I also walk a lot of places.

My eating. . . I have learned to listen to my body about how hungry I am. Most of the time. So I stop eating when I feel full and go get a snack when I feel I need one. That was probably one of the harder things to learn.

I hope this answers some of what you were asking.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 10:43:29 AM

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Aylee, most of the time I listen to my body and don't really diet, and when I carry more weight than I should, I just feel rotten, which is a good reason to change eating patterns. As to my profile, I haven't updated it in yonkers, but then my height hopefully won't fluctuate (I'd be worried if I would) and my weight hoovers around 50 Kilos or 110 lbs, but I have 2 oversized Dobes that need a lot of walking and while not being a gym rat, I go twice a week (the hit and run - go do all the exercises and then walk home to have a shower in peace and quiet), do a bit of kickboxing and yoga, I realized that steady exercise keeps me quite sane and helps me to maintain my weight while still being able to indulge in the foods I like.

I noticed that a lot of my friends, especially women, tend to exist on an extremely low calorie diet, basically most of them deny themselves everything that makes life nice and they all complain that if they'd eat like me, they'd weight a ton, but a lot of them regularly go on what I call "fad diets" where they lose a chunk of weight quick and gain it a month later again, and they tend to repeat that cycle several times a year, only the more they do it the less they are able to eat. There are instances where I want to shed a few pounds (family or class reunions) and I'm a female, I mean there is hardly a female on the planet who might not like to have a smaller tush or leaner legs, or or or... But I usually just start recording my food and exercise and keep 300 calories under what I burn, so not drinking that glass of wine in the evening or not munching on gummibears usually sorts it. The "eat only cabbage soup for 8 weeks" or all the other diets just don't seem to work in the long run and I don't really get the punishing myself with unappealing food for losing weight fast and then packing it on in no time flat.

I find that whole "ideal weight" idea completely ridiculous, some people just look better with a bit of padding and they are meant to have that padding, others don't but how boring would it be if we'd all be the same body type? Personally I love the way Kate Moss looks, what a great figure, but I could starve myself and just would not ever be that dainty, I'm simply not built that way but a good body is not just the ridiculously thin fashion way model (genetic freaks who make less than 0.1% of the population though 80% of all women strive to look like them - there is a reason why they are so highly paid, rarity). I might be biased but most of the rigorous dieters look gaunt and miserable, a bit like joggers, you never see a smiling jogger...

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 11:41:16 AM

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I find that if I eat more than 1500 calories a day then I gain a lot of weight very quickly, especially when I'm stressed.

No I have never done extreme diets. I've always just made sure I stuck to 1200-1500 calories a day and no more than 30 grams of fat. I'm only 5'3" so that could be the reason why I need less calories.

Before I hit age 35 I could eat more calories and not be as concerned but now that I'm almost 40 I just look at food and I gain weight.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 11:59:13 AM

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so where do I find 2696 calories a day?

chocolate?

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 12:05:10 PM

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Aylee, most of the time I listen to my body and don't really diet, and when I carry more weight than I should, I just feel rotten, which is a good reason to change eating patterns. As to my profile, I haven't updated it in yonkers, but then my height hopefully won't fluctuate (I'd be worried if I would) and my weight hoovers around 50 Kilos or 110 lbs, but I have 2 oversized Dobes that need a lot of walking and while not being a gym rat, I go twice a week (the hit and run - go do all the exercises and then walk home to have a shower in peace and quiet), do a bit of kickboxing and yoga, I realized that steady exercise keeps me quite sane and helps me to maintain my weight while still being able to indulge in the foods I like.

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I read somewhere once that a persons emotions while eating can effect how your body treats the food.

For example, if you are eating with friends, having a nice time, you will be less likely to turn the food into extra weight. If, however, you feel guilty or other negative feelings towards your meal, the food is more likely to be turned into excess weight. I am sure that it was more complicated than that.

I do pay attention to what I eat. I am not that fond of meat, so I have to be sure that I am either getting a portion a day or eating other protein foods. I do not get to wrapped up in it though. I love vegetables, but I do not care much for fruit, so getting my 5 servings of fruit or veggies a day is not difficult. I always have chocolate in the house because I might want some. I do enjoy sweets. I have friends that cannot understand how I can keep from eating it constantly. I suppose it is because I have decided that it is senseless to deprive myself. A cookie a day will keep you from feeling deprived or that cookies are a 'bad' food and you are somehow 'bad' for eating it. What happens is that you do not 'slip' and go crazy eating an entire package of cookies.

Holiday meals I fix are not intended to be healthy and low-fat. They are intended to be tasty. Yes, I do eat more calories than I need to on Thanksgiving. This is not really an issue because for most of the rest of the year I do eat sensibly.

I made homemade ice-cream for Memorial Day. My ice-cream is a custard base and uses heavy cream and half-n-half. There is NOTHING low-fat about it. It is very tasty and rich. What I have seen is that people do not eat as much of it as they would a low-calorie or low-fat ice-cream because a smaller amount satisfies all of those pleasure centers in the brain and tongue.

Overall, I have found that it is easier to just enjoy the food and to stop when full rather than have anxiety issues over it. Other than the anxiety that comes when you are tempering the eggs and praying that you do not end up with a bowl of sugary scrambled eggs. LOL

Overall I have stayed mostly the same size before and after having a child. The one area that changed, there is really not much I can do about it.

A cabbage soup diet? Really? Wouldn't that cause umm. . . other issues?

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 12:08:57 PM

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^ it really is a shame that one cant get good ice cream at the store very easily. What ever they do it - it just is not right 20 mins later.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 12:10:04 PM

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so where do I find 2696 calories a day?

chocolate?

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Serious answer. . .

Read the labels of all those packaged foods. Muffins. . . they are actually 2 servings. Trail mix is actually high in calories. A snickers bar is 290 calories and a frozen burrito is 300. Corn and peas are really carbs and so they are calories, unlike celery and cucumbers which have virtually none. Do you put creamer or sugar in your coffee or tea? There are calories there. What snacks do you eat? Really, it is not that hard to eat that many calories. I dislike doing so because it makes me feel yucky.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 12:49:01 PM

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Not to mention, many beverages that just slide right down!

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 1:08:05 PM

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Not to mention, many beverages that just slide right down!

Oh yes! Soda pops and fruit juices.

I started drinking diet soda almost 25 years ago, so now I cannot stand sugared beverages. Well, except beer and amaretto and such. I drink a lot of water, flavored water, ice tea, and hot tea and coffee.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 1:29:55 PM

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A cabbage soup diet? Really? Wouldn't that cause umm. . . other issues?

I don't know, the idea alone puts me off. But I guess I never will stop being amazed at the kind of crazy diets people do, the whole concept is fairly simple, consume more than you burn and your body will turn it into fat. Eat much less than you need and your body prepares for starvation and your metabolism will slow down.

But you could be on to something with enjoying food, I find that I'm naturally drawn to food that is good for me, I don't eat much meat, maybe once a month but I eat a lot of fish and seafood, meat makes me feel sluggish and sickly, I don't have a very sweet tooth and absolutely hate chocs, so that makes it a lot easier and I tend to like veg a lot, when I slip into a processed food diet (while traveling or being under stress) my natural reactions and appetite seems to be "off", so since I also happen to be borderline anemic (runs in the family) it's in my best interest to eat healthy and once I start craving parsley, I simply know my iron levels are low.

The odd thing was, since I started monitoring food and exercises, I realized that I was actually not eating enough, when I started eating more (and healthier), it just became so much easier to maintain my weight and feel good. Also if I don't like food, I just don't eat it, it's there to be enjoyed. I had a tendency to skip meals and eat on the run, I stopped doing that and my body thanks me. With the right fuel, I am also much more productive.

You know, I always thought the reduced calorie stuff is a complete fad, I rather eat less of something tasty and feel happy and good about what I had, than something that's mainly artificial and leaves you feel wanting.

I'm certainly not the healthiest person on the planet, I mainline coffee, I smoke (abeit moderately 3 to 5 a day), I will eat some junk food if I'm craving it, I drink alcohol moderately (fine wines, a good single malt, the occasional G&T), in my teenage days I was a bit of a drug fiend, I think the key is in moderation and knowing what your body will tolerate and what is good for you. Occasionally messing up and enjoying, nothing wrong with it, but I doubt living in denial and feeling guilty for every time you're having fun, that must be miserable. I like sports and exercise but I won't do jogging because I hate it, I rather grab my inline skates and have fun than do some exercise where I feel I'm punishing myself.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 1:47:09 PM

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so where do I find 2696 calories a day?

chocolate?

pD

Serious answer. . .

Read the labels of all those packaged foods. Muffins. . . they are actually 2 servings. Trail mix is actually high in calories. A snickers bar is 290 calories and a frozen burrito is 300. Corn and peas are really carbs and so they are calories, unlike celery and cucumbers which have virtually none. Do you put creamer or sugar in your coffee or tea? There are calories there. What snacks do you eat? Really, it is not that hard to eat that many calories. I dislike doing so because it makes me feel yucky.

I think I live/survive mainly on sugar.
Coke, sugar in coffee... no snacks, I don't snack (or rarely) as they make me hungry. hehe. hmmm... I've been thinking for quite some time that I aught to get a little healthier... not for vanity sake, just day to day stuff.

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RE: How many calories do you need per day? - 6/19/2011 2:56:16 PM

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According to that site I need 2797 calories a day. I put in "moderate" for activity level but I do go to the gym 4 or 5 times a week and do a workout that includes two miles on the tread mill at 3 mph and 2 degree elevation and 11 weight machines for a total body workout.
I joined Weight Watchers two weeks ago because I couldn't seem to get rid of my gut.
That's the only place on my body that's fat.
So, I went to the weigh-in last wed. night and I lost 3 pounds in my first week! And I was only hungry about twice during that period.
I think the most I've ever lost at the gym alone was 1 pound in a week.
I'm getting a handle on my bad eating habits, no more eating a whole sleeve of cookies, just 3 to 5 now.
For the last few years I've been ordering not a box or two of Girl Scout cookies but a case!
I can actually "feel" my gut going down and my pants aren't so tight.
And I cut way back on Coca Colas, I drink ice water or green tea instead.
Before I'd fill up a whole plate with food, now I do half of that.

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