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mixielicous -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/15/2006 5:38:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: fastlane

Thank you for not naming names Mixie
I'd be sooooo embarassed and you'd be moderated.
[;)]Talk to me Privately, winks Kevin


whatever would you need to tell me in private? [sm=flying.gif]



littlesarbonn -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/15/2006 7:00:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

i was wondering what would be the appeal to offering your services to an Owned sub/slave?

i get more offers from men who 1]want to be my service slave, do my housework, press my clothes, "make my life easier" so i can serve my Master more personally. 2]sugar daddies of a sort. offers to buy fetish clothing to wear while i service my master.

Now, i understand that these are fetishes. i try to explain that i am not a Domme in any sense, but they STILL throw their service at me, with questions such as "wouldnt it be fun to have someone around to help?", "arent two subs better than one?", "wouldnt your Master rather have you in bed than doing the laundry?"

So, my question is what is the appeal, what created the desire to offer service to a slave instead of a Dom/mme?


I'm not really sure a male service sub or service slave can answer your question because I don't think that's the kind of person who is contacting you. You are being contacted by people with specific fetishes that pretty much appear to be towards any attractive woman, not necessarily a dominant one. Someone earlier mentioned "desperation" as a motivation, and I tend to agree.

I'm known pretty much as a service slave in bdsm circles, and I can honestly say that such behavior would never appeal to me. This doesn't mean that female slave friends and I haven't played around with the idea of submitting to each other in a service manner, but rarely did we ever even take up that as a reality.



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/15/2006 8:21:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
The reality is that all FEMALES on boards like these can and do get those sorts of offers all the time. 
<<< well I must of been bending down tying my shoelaces :)) I missed that call.---

now here is some ??'s my son asked on his friends list on my space, he was asking in general to girls for him- but now I'm taking that same step and asking the male sub/slaves...

MS_Alexis:reply's Date: May 15, 2006 9:51 AM
Being your mom and a Dominant, I hold the right to NOT answer you direct, but I deff like the 20 ??'s- think I'll take it elswhere to ask the same..-- *GRINS
~~~~~
Josh's Bulletin:
Date: May 12, 2006 9:51 PM
1. Would you mind me being in control?
2. Would you like me to pull your hair?
3. Would you want me to whisper freaky shit in your ear?
4. Would you moan or hold all your feelings in?
5. Would you kiss me with a little tongue or a lot of tongue?
6. Would you go down on me?
7. Would you let me give you a hickie/or you to me?
8. How many rounds would we go?
9. What would you wanna do afterwards?
10. Would you take off all your clothes for me?
11. Would you lick and bite me all over?
12. Would you like 4play or get straight to the point?
13. Would you take your time if I told you to?
14. Would you fall asleep when we were done?
15. Would you want me to go fast or slow?
16. Where would you wanna "do it" at?
17. How fast do think you could make me "bust"?
18. Would you be loud or quiet?
19. Do you think you could make me have a orgasm?
20. Are you gonna re-post/reply to these, so I can see your answers ?



mixielicous -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/15/2006 9:01:44 PM)

i dont get the point [8|]



slaveofdarkhold -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/16/2006 12:41:30 AM)

I get emails like this from time to time. Not always just from subs wanting to help with the chores, often with subs wanting the full Mistress/slave experience. One explanation they give me time and time again is 'I want to serve a sub, because that makes me even more submissive.' I'm not sure I really get this. I can vaguely understand the 'bottom-of-the-food-chain' theory, but surely submitting to someone who doesn't want your service is by definition well.... not submitting. A lot don't seem to understand this at all.... I get a lot of 'You must have a slight dominant side?'  'Don't you think it would be nice for a change?'  'I'm sure your Master would like to see you Domme someone.'
Or, if telling them I don't want a sub doesn't work I will say that my Master wouldn't allow it, I get my personal favourite:
'You can just dom me when he isn't around, I won't tell him, it isn't cheating because you're not submitting to me'
WTF?!
I'm inclined to agree that this is desperation rather than an actual fetish, and in the case of a few people, desperation plus a monumental lack of respect and understanding of other people. But hey, this is the internet. People do these things. I'm sure between us we could write a book of stupid thing people say to us. Mostly I'm glad to have something to laugh at.



HarryVanWinkle -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/16/2006 12:51:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

Come here pup; Can you hang drywall? If not i know a dom in Toroto who is also a pshychiatrist who might want you for sevice.


<<<<< Ex-journeyman drywall hanger here.



heartfeltsub -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/16/2006 5:46:04 AM)

Though the answer i am about to give doesn't quite match the tone of this thread, it does address the original question. i am currently unowned and heavily submissive with a LARGE service orientation. Whenever i visit any of my lifestyle friends or even my relatives (except my daughter-in-law because i don't want to offend her) the first thing i do is start helping them clean or do household chores. It helps to give that part of me that is service oriented a bit of a fix, if that makes sense. Being single with no one to take care of other than my Domme self-sufficient cat, i need to be able to do for people from time to time.

That being said, i don't try to email some cute Dom or sub and offer my services. That i think has an entirely different ulterior motive.

heartfelt



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/16/2006 2:40:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: heartfeltsub

Though the answer i am about to give doesn't quite match the tone of this thread, it does address the original question. i am currently unowned and heavily submissive with a LARGE service orientation. Whenever i visit any of my lifestyle friends or even my relatives (except my daughter-in-law because i don't want to offend her) the first thing i do is start helping them clean or do household chores. It helps to give that part of me that is service oriented a bit of a fix, if that makes sense. Being single, i need to be able to do for people from time to time. -- That being said,


ok now let me ask this:(me,being str8 with a sexual kinky twist) and this is to any gender, seeking..
to serve a dominant "does it need to be oppisite gender or same gender? -- realizing some are bi/gay-les and str8,  but if to "serve" alone,no sexual- to do as stated above- to feel the need to serve. tho I tend to seek out males-- I have had a few females approch me,understanding there would Never be a sexual cross the line with me..  so how would this work for me/us-subs?



slaveofdarkhold -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 2:24:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MsVoyeringmama

ok now let me ask this:(me,being str8 with a sexual kinky twist) and this is to any gender, seeking..
to serve a dominant "does it need to be oppisite gender or same gender? -- realizing some are bi/gay-les and str8,  but if to "serve" alone,no sexual- to do as stated above- to feel the need to serve. tho I tend to seek out males-- I have had a few females approch me,understanding there would Never be a sexual cross the line with me..  so how would this work for me/us-subs?


I hope I'm correctly understanding what you're asking.
'How it works' it entirely personal. Some subs have a need to serve that is totally seperated from any sexual need they have. It doesn't turn them on, nor does it give them sexual thrills. Instead it is a different kind of fullfillment, a happiness, sense of worth, satisfaction at a job well done, or simply pleasure at pleasing someone else. This kind of sub could very happily serve a person regardless of gender or sexual orientation because the two things are not directly connected.
Others may see submission as a sexual experience, and yet still be happy serving a person they are not sexually attracted to or do not intend to have direct sexual contact with. This may be because it is the submission itself, rather than the person in control which turns them on and so they can gain satisfaction from the general experience.
For still others, submission creates a strong sexual link between the dominant and the submissive and so a D/s relationship without sexual contact would not work for them. I know that I personally feel this way. There is a sexual connection between my Master and me which feeds into my submission, and vice versa. That's not to say that submission is only about sex (though again, it might be for some) but that both sex, and submission are important parts of the relationship.
Everyone has different needs, every relationship has different dynamics. Would this work for you? Maybe, but only you can know exactly what it is you need in a relationship and whether you can be happy and fullfilled. If you can have a D/s relationship without any sexual contact, that's great. If you can't, that's fine too.



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 3:19:42 AM)

ok that makes sense, so me always saying "NO" I dont have a use for female subs, if it is serving they only seek from me- the need to make others happy, with out sexual. I may have to rethink "my out of the box".. thank you



openmindedslave -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 3:34:01 AM)

Well, I think some subs/slaves have trully try to study the profiles to see what  is importain to  Mistresses out here.I realize that might sound like an all purpose need and not directed to the indivual they are contacting at the time. When reading  many profiles, you will notice many  Mistresses do not seek sexual partners but someone to be of some use to their daily needs  or actuivites around the home they do not want to do.Some like cleaning  or doing laundry , might bring some slaves closer to their fetishes of dressing as sissys or being nude and chained while commmitting the task. Somehow this allows the submissive side to comeout in a safe  and private enviroment.Not to mention that the power of having a young and attractive woman domming them while they are doing the work can be very erotic to some. And to those who are not able to give tribute or meaningful  gifts  that involve monet, they are able to offer their labors in exchange for your company ?  And yes ...there is still the preceived chance , you might allow them a chance to experience more.....



heartfeltsub -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 6:18:57 AM)

When i am just doing service, no sexual component, gender is irrelative. i can clean the house of a woman as well as i can clean the house of a man.



littleone35 -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 6:30:23 AM)

I got a e mail from a male sub asking if he could help me serve my Master.  I was nice i told him thanks but i don't need any help serving my Master.  However since i am a terrible housekeeper if he just wanted to clean my house and thats all i would have said come on over  lol.

Matt's littleone



mixielicous -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 7:20:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: openmindedslave

Well, I think some subs/slaves have trully try to study the profiles to see what is importain to Mistresses out here.I realize that might sound like an all purpose need and not directed to the indivual they are contacting at the time. When reading many profiles, you will notice many Mistresses do not seek sexual partners but someone to be of some use to their daily needs or actuivites around the home they do not want to do.Some like cleaning or doing laundry , might bring some slaves closer to their fetishes of dressing as sissys or being nude and chained while commmitting the task. Somehow this allows the submissive side to comeout in a safe and private enviroment.Not to mention that the power of having a young and attractive woman domming them while they are doing the work can be very erotic to some. And to those who are not able to give tribute or meaningful gifts that involve monet, they are able to offer their labors in exchange for your company ? And yes ...there is still the preceived chance , you might allow them a chance to experience more.....


i understand the motive, but it is not Mistresses they are contacting, it is fellow subs/slaves



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 7:33:54 AM)

When reading  many profiles, you will notice many  Mistresses do not seek sexual partners but someone to be of some use to their daily needs  or actuivites around the home they do not want to do. Some like cleaning  or doing laundry , might bring some slaves closer to their fetishes of dressing as sissys or being nude and chained while commmitting the task. Somehow this allows the submissive side to comeout in a safe  and private enviroment.Not to mention that the power of having a young and attractive woman domming (IN my case older and SSBBW-lol)  them while they are doing the work can be very erotic to some. And to those who are not able to give tribute or meaningful  gifts  that involve money, they are able to offer their labors in exchange for your company ?  <<< this I have NO problem exchanging --- And yes ...there is still the preceived chance, I might allow them a chance to experience more.....

"When i am just doing service, no sexual component, gender is irrelative. i can clean the house of a woman as well as i can clean the house of a man."  -- so this deffinately opens my out of the box- wider..

"However since i am a terrible housekeeper if he just wanted to clean my house and thats all   I would have said come on over  lol. <<< oh that's me-- it not that I'm terrible- it's i hate doing alone, especially trying to do behind my kids who dont.... being a single mom-and sole provider to them- i work long- by time i come home there's dinner and such, im drained and ready for bed by 8:30pm -thus chores keep getting put off- till i turn around and makes me sick and not want to do, so for me- its not having a sub/slave pick up after me and my lazy kids- but to be there,helping and keeping adult company.. so then to me it wouldnt matter if female or male- and they sought out to serve Only...I can handle this and it wouldnt take away my comfort zone of sexual nor especially with a female.---- lol, my out of box is starting to look like an octagon :)  - ty all for this input.



MsVoyeringmama -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 10:00:38 AM)

ok- is it just me, or do many feel like banging thier head to a wall or GRRRRRRunting from frustration- after this post, going to home page- a local profile comes up >> "I am a novice but would like to be trained to be a non sexual domesticated servant. If this is of interest,contact me please" -- here I think wow, my 1st email to him >> "i just got done posting from a forum on this exact issue:  http://www.collarchat.com/m_373521/mpage_2/tm.htm#376379   Post #: 35     and this is his reply  "do you know anyone who can use domestic servant sometimes?"  and next my cat/mouse email chase >>  did you actually READ the post i said from link- that would give 1 a clue to as why i wrote them..    - his next reply  >> " well if you know anyone let me know,i did read your post," --------- is he getting a 3rd mail from me ---NOTTTT.. im to busy banging my head to the wall :) -- so i try in the box- out of box-making it an octagon :)  -- so do i declare default and reign my self to wanna be Players- cause i keep feeling like im loose-loose -loose situation most times.



openmindedslave -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/17/2006 10:46:18 AM)

The other issue is the chance to be around others who have similar views of submission. The idea that they are able to please a Master or Mistress through some type of giving of themselves..So why not?

If you have an older slave being  controlled by a younger  dom? Or the fact that you can in a safe enviroment express your desires through  your cothing or lack of , then so be it .In fact, I can see alot of married subs feeling that by not having sex with another woman, they can convince themselves they are not cheating on their spouses or even  in some way feeling importain to someone that matters to them. And do we not  in life ( not all  of us ) seek connection with others, no matter what level of realtionship we may form???



ShivaTS -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/18/2006 11:11:21 AM)

I have grown up cooking, cleaning, and servicing throughout my life.  It is ingrained in me as well at my submissive/passive nature.  While there are people that think it is kink to serve a woman and normally expect sex in return, there are others like me that have no inclination of expecting compensation in the form of bdsm or sex. 
(It happens so my Master likes using me as a pain slut, but again not expected.)

I hope all of you are doing well.
Shiva



strongnsubmissiv -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/18/2006 1:39:53 PM)

Being submissive and making her happy is directly linked to my sexuality.  By me being this way, if she's not sexually turned on by it or has no need for it in her own sexuality, there's no yang to my ying and the point of my submission would be lost.

I'm not sure why so many self proclaimed submissive men on here seem to throw around their fetishes at anything that moves.  The angry tone of most of the Domme profiles on here seem to echo the same sentiment.





Kirei -> RE: a Q for male service subs or service slaves if applicable (5/18/2006 1:56:33 PM)

Mixie,
The answer is simple...your a cute sub/slave...and a cute girl.  Guys are attracted to that.

Besides guys are like the new godzilla films where he has two brains.  One large one in his head and smaller one near his tail, until they destory the big one with the godzilla smasher and all hell break loose.
See the comparison?  LOL



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