RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid



Message


zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 1:44:37 PM)

So in other words, your prediction is based on knowing practically nothing about Tammy and Artie. Yeah that's well-founded.




Lockit -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 1:51:15 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

So in other words, your prediction is based on knowing practically nothing about Tammy and Artie. Yeah that's well-founded.



Actually, I have been waiting for the announcement as well. I think many situations that exhibit something that may not be so healthy, often take a few go rounds before there is a final break. When one is wishy washy in parenting... wishy washy in mature decisions and whether to go public with something private and then when things slow down, repeatedly come back at it with refreshed emotions and more need for understanding, lashing out or many other things this and most threads they work, function with... yeah... it isn't too hard to go to the place that they will be back together. After all, they are very much alike.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 1:57:55 PM)

[sm=wave.gif]Hi Lockit, smooches!

The thing is that I have seen changes in Tammy and believe that she is at least trying to turn things around. Artie, not so much. I fully believe he posted to make himself look good. After all, it appears she is starting to move on, or at least that's how it looks to me.

Even if you are expecting that announcement you are doing so knowing the history. My point is that Iamsemisweet has freely admitted that she knows next to nothing about Tammy and Artie - yet she makes predictions about their getting back together. Who knows maybe they will. I just don't think her prediction is terribly solid and that's what I was remarking on.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:13:56 PM)

Zephyr, so I am assuming you are not taking the other side of the bet?  Fine with me, but these two (particularly Tammy,. but Art is trying to catch up) have spent lots of time in the past week or so disclosing every personal detail of their lives together.  I actually feel pretty comfortable in my "prediction" as you call it.  You seem very sweet, and it is really nice of you to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but come on.  




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:16:22 PM)

And you just made my point. It is precisely knowing the complete history and seeing a difference in Tammy that enables me to give her the benefit of the doubt. How can you judge completely when you know so little?

ETA= no, they may well get back together but I don't think they are watching this and laughing at us. Tammy's never been able to resist posting but she's been silent for long stretches which tells me she is really in school. Hence I believe her. Artie, not so much.




Kirata -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:33:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

Greetings star,

You're not paying attention...

i am no longer anything but tammystarm (mommy, student and friend)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

the issue boils down to the children living up to your expectations

Yes, that's what it boils down to... nothing to do with you. Repetitive, but check.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

for the longest time you allowed them to act this way and in fact, for a winter several years ago, they actually ran your home while you were very, very sick and it was not pretty.

Even if she was still your property, disclosing the personal details of someone else's life in a public forum is considered bad form.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

I do love you tam.

How droll. You're living in the same house with the woman, and you're talking to her on here.

You want to make sure everyone sees your performance, don't you. A true man of the theater, real celebrity material.

Lighting okay? Sound? Position? Stand on the X for camera 1, please. Places everybody.

K.





angelikaJ -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:37:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas


quote:

ORIGINAL: tammystarm

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I have severe fibromyalgia, I go to school full time, and I live in a house that we now have 6 living in. When I wasn't in school I was able to manage the rest, but now it is overwhelming. I need a neat, tidy and organized home, but I cannot do it alone, it is causing major stress along with severe flare ups with the fibro. I am a student at heart and cannot imagine not being there, in fact I get rather depressed when not in classes. But coming home with the house a mess, homework to do and pain from the roots of my hair to the bottom of my feet, well it is overwhelming. Master feels the same way about the house, when he comes home he expects it to be emaculant, I dont blame him, it is his home, he has worked hard for. Before I started back to school i asked everyone if they would help out, they all agreed but now, well not so much. MAJOR STRESS! Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

Peace Love And Harmony
Tammystar



Greetings star,

Much as been made about your thread but the truth is you started a great thread. The truth is you started it with a concise problem and asked for suggestions. To support this I'm quoting the key phrases lifted from your OP:

1) "I need a neat, tidy and organized home, but I cannot do it alone, it is causing major stress along with severe flare ups with the fibro."

2) "Before I started back to school i asked everyone if they would help out, they all agreed but now, well not so much. MAJOR STRESS! Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


It's a common and understandable problem because certainly you cannot school full time and keep up a 2500 square foot house and one horse, four cats, two dogs and two kids and me and my daughter and her boyfriend occasionally here during the summer. You asked for suggestions and got some but this thread was side railed by the usual players, those who can be identified readily by having posted at least once an hour each day except when they are in bed and we all know who they are. I'm glad you did not get flustered with them as was the case when you were one of them well over a year ago. But that was then and now it is certainly different with you offline and real time with roots in the local community and friends you see face to face each day. You changed for the better and have real roots here and real friends but you cannot change everything in a year especially when you have a low expectations to begin with.

Knowing you as well as the kids very well I do know the issue boils down to the children living up to your expectations because for the longest time you allowed them to act this way and in fact, for a winter several years ago, they actually ran your home while you were very, very sick and it was not pretty. So, now when you challenge them to act differently than the norm they naturally resist and they test your resolve while expecting little punishment or consistency. Unfortunately they were correct because before changing them you had to change yourself, your expectations in yourself, how you discipline them and how well you communicate and enforce your expectation of them.

Over the last week or so I've seen serious efforts on your part to discipline them but changes like this cannot occur overnight especially with such intelligent and strong willed children. So, clear consistency in your communications and high expectation levels in yourself and them are required over a long period of weeks and maybe even months. In business this is called "elevation" and we are indeed elevating expectations, changing thinking and methods and thus behaviors to achieve success. This will not be so hard if you remember it's harder and more stressfull on you and them to spare the rod rather than use it or to avoid the problem rather than deal with the problem and for the longest time you were all about problem avoidance.

I do love you tam.

Be well,
Arturas




And just like magic, I already entered a response to this, let's see if any of it seems vaguely familiar.

quote:

ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Arturas,
I pretty much believe that you have asked Tammy to leave.

I also know that you had unreasonable expectations. Someone was here on the forums and told you you were going to lose her. You told them they were wrong.
Instead you told us how wonderful and amazing Tammy was, bravely soldiering on.

People made various suggestions to you regarding hired help and automatic dishwashers. You could have actually looked into that...instead you told her that for punishment she would have to get rid of the cats.

I am not sorry she is leaving. I think you meant well and tried to do okay by her. The problem is you are kind of deluded about what it means to own someone else.
You don't just own them just when you want to put on a great scene at your local club or when it is time to suck your cock.
Ownership denotes responsibility. Maturity is part of being responsible, Arturas.
Problem-solving skills is part of maturity and too much of what you (not Tammy) presented was that this was not your mutual problem but her problem... and you expected her to solve it without your help.
It was not her issue; it should have been a "we" issue.

When Tammy leaves you are going to have other problems, because no matter where you go, there you are... and you will not be able to blame her.

So, standard answer applies: go seek out a kink aware therapist before you toss your unreasonable expectations onto someone else. (Hint: expecting a clean house was not unreasonable, Art. Expecting her to be able to deliver that with her limitations was, especially if you did not develop a strategy to help her.)



Well, except now you are saying it isn't really her, it's the kids.

Sorry, that is still a "we issue" and as lord amd master you could have given her direction. Why did you not suggest and then require counseling for her and her children? It impacted you, your home and your family (if they are part of home and famility to you...and i am not so sure about that).

Again, she had issues and problems and you did not guide and direct her through them.
Rudderless boats just do not steer well on their own.
Maybe you were too caught in the problem and trying to save and fix and if that is true (the behavior looks rather similar) my guess is you became resentful because if only she listened to your fixes, things would have been nearly perfect...and she may have felt picked on.
IF that is sounding at all familiar then you should check out codependents anonymous.

Advice was asked.
Advice was given.

Neither you nor she may have liked the advice offered.
That is par for this course.


As for loving her: sometimes love is just not enough.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:46:12 PM)

Zephyr, no shit, I have never before seen two people disclose so much about their personal lives in a public forum in my life.  True, I only know what they tell me, but be honest, that is a whole lot.  These two, for whatever reason,  have decided to open their lives to public critique.  It is true, I have never met either of them personally, but they have provided a lot of information.  Like really, really a lot.  Art's last email seems pretty transparent to me.
Tammy is lucky to have a friend like you.  Maybe you should suggest to her that she quit disclosing every nuance of her personal life.  Obviously, I hope the poor girl moves on, meets the Master of her dreams, gets the 150K a year job that only requires her to work two days a week, and shuts the fuck up.  I just doubt that is going to happen.  What I think is really going to happen is that they will get back together, and next year, there will be another 45 (45!!!) page thread.  I know you don't know me, but I am usually right about this kind of thing.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 2:50:40 PM)

fast reply

Judge Judy has a saying that goes something like this......if it doesn't make sense. it isn't the truth.

Nothing either member of the house of Arty has posted on this thread makes sense.

Go with that where you want to.




AlwaysLisa -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:01:29 PM)

quote:

Judge Judy has a saying that goes something like this......if it doesn't make sense. it isn't the truth.


I LOVE Judge Judy...she don't play.  As for this thread, ya, nothing makes sense.  





kalikshama -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:12:45 PM)

quote:

Who wants to make a bet that Art and Tammy are about to, very publicly of course, announce that they can't live without each other and they are back together?


My money is on this because of the abandonment fears Tammy displayed as soon as she saw Art's updated profile and b/c of Art's recent posts.




imperatrixx -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:28:18 PM)

"Greetings" Arturas,

Why the fuck would you post something like that publicly? Are you that much of an attention whore? You belong on Jersey Shore or some other show where socially challenged people can air their dirty laundry for the world to see.

What you wrote was a letter. You wrote it to "star" which apparently was your EX slave's name, you don't even have the respect to address her by her own name now that she's not with you any more, and the entire tone of the letter was TO her not ABOUT her. Don't you two still live together? Don't you like...have her phone number? Or email address?

You know when I said a few pages back that you could still be her rock...stirring up more online drama for her isn't exactly what I had in mind. You are a seriously fucked up person to come on here and publish a "private" letter detailing your ex's failings in parenting and trying to give her "advice" that you apparently couldn't bother to give her in all the years you've known her in person.

What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You.

Sincerely truly and deeply,

Fuck off.




Kirata -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:30:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

My money is on this because of the abandonment fears Tammy displayed as soon as she saw Art's updated profile and b/c of Art's recent posts.

Ya never know. Her abandonment fears (anybody wanna take me out get me drunk and find me someone to fuck?) plus his preternatural Sexual Magic (woo ee ooo) could lead to anything happening. I predict they'll drown the kids, and then after six months she'll cut his penis off.

K.




AlwaysLisa -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:36:38 PM)

quote:

I predict they'll drown the kids,


That's the only sad part of this entire fiasco.  Those kids are already forming opinions on how to be adults, and look who they have for role models. 




LafayetteLady -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:40:03 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tammystarm

Holly, yes i did get the bachlors in psychology while in studying nursing. I just kept adding classes [:D]


Right you "added" classes, which means you would have finished nursing as well as the psych degree.

By the way, NO college or university allows a student to just "add" classes willy nilly. You can up to a certain amount of credits, then you need approval from the head of your major degree department.

Many people study for a duel degree, Tammy, I did it myself. I fell short of one class (that was only taught during a particular semester). But I needed to finish TO TAKE CARE OF MY CHILD (what a strange concept) so only finished with the one degree.

So please, if you must attempt to embelish your accomplishments, try to do it with something very few people would be familiar with. Higher education isn't it, since so many of us here have degrees.

And you do realize that most companies now do check to verify the degrees listed on one's resume, right?




HannahLynHeather -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 3:43:43 PM)

wow. just fucking wow.

art, after reading that shit, all i can say is that if i was your mother i'd be thinking to myself: "why, oh why, didn't i just take it up the ass?"




Killerangel -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 4:00:45 PM)

Yeah, well the guy had to come in here and make sure everyone knew it wasn't his fault. [8|] 
I also am counting down till they get back together, I don't think you need to know these two main posters on this thread personally to see that it might definitely be in the cards that they'll reunite. It doesn't seem to be a union that brings out the best in either of them, but rather they seem to emphasize each other's personality flaws and weak points. 

It's amazing how many times the thread starts winding down, and then one or the other comes in to refuel things up again. This whole thread is a masturbatory dream come true providing attention for the both of them. They both seem to have trouble recognizing the truth but that isn't all that important to either. They both twist things to suit them at the time and stories are forever getting tangled up.




needlesandpins -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 4:12:52 PM)

blimey, i popped back in here to see what all the fuss is about as i wondered why something like the op was still running.

it's fricking jeremy kyle on the net, and i hate that show.

i don't care who knows who personally in this thread, but Arty, you need a kick in the cunt! man up and stop being such a drama queen. if you are a master then be one instead of acting like a lame arse. if you love this woman and know what she's going through then take it private and show her some respect. get off your sorry arse and help run your own house, she is not your mother!

tammy, watch super nanny and get control of your kids. don't use your condition as an excuse to let them run riot. if you can't cope with them get someone who can. stop being a doormat and tell arty to pull his weight......assuming you do get back together, if you have spilt up.......or.....if you have split up.....realise he's not a Master, he's a drama queen who has little respect for you or your condition and you deserve better.

needles




Phoenixpower -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 4:24:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arturas

Greetings star,
It's a common and understandable problem because certainly you cannot school full time and keep up a 2500 square foot house and one horse, four cats, two dogs and two kids.




Be well,
Arturas

I find it rather telling that you place your home and your animals before her children. [8|]
Oh wait, maybe this is Tammy after all.


I Found it Even more telling that He mentioned that T Cant keep up with His Own daughter and her Bf i mean WTF??? There is nothing to keep up with in a normal household with an adultdaughter and her partner cause Most adult Kids get their shit together by then and don't Need a nanny anymore[8|]




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Fibro, school, house of 6 (7/13/2011 4:28:39 PM)

Good afternoon. I just wanted to check in and see how things were going. It's getting a little rough in here. I recommend chocolate, lots and lots of chocolate! [;)]




Page: <<   < prev  43 44 [45] 46 47   next >   >>

Valid CSS!




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy
0.0625