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slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:22:30 AM

rose442

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How does a slave get broken by her Master if there are kids in the home?

I know that is what i need to feel the slave that i want to and need to feel. The Master/slave bond is not there like i need it to be. I always have doubt, and question Master, and don't feel like i am pleasing Him at all, at any point and time, and i don't feel fulfilled. But that is my fault, i think.

Or what can be done to make me fill like there is no more room for love in my heart for my Master?

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:28:49 AM

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How do you mean broken? Do you mean broken to their collar which is a long ongoing process? Or do you simply mean being beaten severely?

As to your dissatisfaction; Have you related your feelings to your Master? How long have you been in this collar? I think in order to get any real answers we need more info here.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:29:00 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rose442

How does a slave get broken by her Master if there are kids in the home?

I know that is what i need to feel the slave that i want to and need to feel. The Master/slave bond is not there like i need it to be. I always have doubt, and question Master, and don't feel like i am pleasing Him at all, at any point and time, and i don't feel fulfilled. But that is my fault, i think.

Or what can be done to make me fill like there is no more room for love in my heart for my Master?

rose442

Hello rose,

I for one will never be 'broken', the word itself seems to imply I was not complete before him. I do know that a relationship can be had in M/s even when there are children at home.

Advice: Do not try so hard, D/s is a relationship and takes time to grow and mature. Insecurities need to be dicussed in a calm rational manner without fear of any kind. Talk to him openly and respectfully and do not try to Top from the bottom.

Just give it time.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:31:19 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rose442

How does a slave get broken by her Master if there are kids in the home?

I know that is what i need to feel the slave that i want to and need to feel. The Master/slave bond is not there like i need it to be. I always have doubt, and question Master, and don't feel like i am pleasing Him at all, at any point and time, and i don't feel fulfilled. But that is my fault, i think.

Or what can be done to make me fill like there is no more room for love in my heart for my Master?

rose442

Is he telling you how to please and if you have pleased? How are you to know if you're not told? If he is telling you, then why don't you believe him?

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:38:48 AM

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This is a tough situation to be in, and a tough situation to feel like all is working. I also have an unmentionable here that makes working with brat extremely hard and extremely sporadic without much of a routine.

There are subtle collars, and subtle punishments that can be executed without raising much attention. There is always that "when the time comes I am gonna so beat your ass".

I would love nothing more than to be in "control" of the brat 24/7 but in our current situation it's not going to happen. So I/we do what we can when we can.

I know this isn't much help, but at least you know your not the only suffering soul out there.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:39:36 AM

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Perhaps you can tell the children that they have a special mother and talk with them about it? They might be understanding.

A slave needs to feel safe to be able to submit. Do you feel safe, or are you stressed? If you feel stress, then consult with your master. He will with the assistance of your input decide what to do about it.

Perhaps you should not question your master, but instead he should question you? The ideas and intelligence of his slave are his property, so he would be wise to make full use of those.

If you do not feel pleasing, that is not your fault, for it is the responsibility of your master to shape you as the best slave you can be. So he should set you tasks that you can accomplish to your satisfaction and feel pleased about. This is in his best interest, so he should be motivated to train you like that.

He should dominate you, as well as have fun together with you.

Does he study you? Is he putting effort into your relationship?

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 5:54:38 AM

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rose,

not sure i understand this "broken" thing.

my belief, for we all have our own, is that it is not a Master that makes a slave - it is the slave themselves that make the committment to be such, and then they work and strive to be the best they can, for their Master.

being a slave, is a choice. it is a choice of honesty and intigrity and committment to that person they see when they look in the mirror. once the committment or trust is broken with that person - then the original choice is nothing more than a farce.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 6:14:26 AM

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Being broken isn't going to make you feel more secure in the long term. Your grand plan won't work.

So instead of figuring out how to do that, just spend time together and talk, recognize who you are is always who you are, no matter how tight the leash might be tugging or not.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 6:22:56 AM

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Master was supposed to *break* me, i asked for it for the same reasons you do.

i geve Him a letter expressing all my love and devotion for Him and after reading it He replies "How do i beat you NOW?" that to me showed that He was already satisfied with me and not being broken did not ruin anything, but i believe put the sensual light onto the relationship we have

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 6:53:12 AM

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i think the term "being broken" is subjective as well... i mean, with my Master, He always used to push at my percieved limits, ALL the time. i had a need to be broken, and being beaten first thing when we met, always made me forget the dad to day stuff, and bring me into the hear and now.

i luv serving, and i feel really content and truely happy, knowing He is enjoying my submission. If He neva enjoyed me, i just don't see the point in submitting, coz that's wot it's all about at the end of the day i reckon.

i hope you sort it out soon

Good luck!

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 8:12:04 AM

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I gotta ask.... why one would even consider breaking one.... i've been told what makes me is who I am... to try and break me would make me something or someone I'll no longer be that attracted one to me in the begining. Guess i'm just odd one out here... that's what makes me ...... me.

OOOOPs.... not being a slave.. only a sub.. I should of kept mouth shut.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 8:17:54 AM

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Why would you want to be broken? Do you mean broken down mentally until your nothing but a cunt with legs that only does housework and what your told to do, never to have a thought in your own head? I think you need to clarify what you mean by *broken*. To me it brings up a lot of negative thoughts and red flags.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 8:26:47 AM

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quote:

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I gotta ask.... why one would even consider breaking one.... i've been told what makes me is who I am... to try and break me would make me something or someone I'll no longer be that attracted one to me in the begining. Guess i'm just odd one out here... that's what makes me ...... me.

OOOOPs.... not being a slave.. only a sub.. I should of kept mouth shut.

well when i was doing all my research about collaring ceremonies, i would say about 90% of the ones i found, included *breaking*

it was purely physical; beaten into submission. its kind of like a *prove yourself*

its "supposed" to be the most major beating of your submission to show that you were serious about it, to start you off extremely humble from the get-go.

at least, thats what i picked up.

nothing mentally, just physical. kinda like initiation.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 8:31:02 AM

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I'm not sure I understand either. I don't know why anyone would want to be broken mentally or emotionally nor why anyone would want to break someone that way. If we are talking physically, well, then go rent a hotel room and he can beat the hell out of you if that's what you want (not sure about that either, but whatever floats your boat). I have kids in my house too and although they understand that I am not a "typical" mom, they don't think I'm weird either.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 8:32:56 AM

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It's usually an overly romanticized term/act upon which the slave wants to be pushed really really hard beyond their perceived point of "self reliance" so that they can feel completely overtaken/ready to be molded/not in control/surrendered.

In a lot of situations it's a case of the slave saying "Take me now because I won't feel secure unless I feel I have no choice!"

Unfortunately, it really doesn't tend to work like that in reality.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 9:12:29 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous
well when i was doing all my research about collaring ceremonies, i would say about 90% of the ones i found, included *breaking*

it was purely physical; beaten into submission. its kind of like a *prove yourself*

its "supposed" to be the most major beating of your submission to show that you were serious about it, to start you off extremely humble from the get-go.

at least, thats what i picked up.

nothing mentally, just physical. kinda like initiation.

If that's what it takes to prove myself... i'll be free forever.. thank God. To be beaten to prove my submission.... mentally and or physically... no thanks... if my actions... are not enough... then you're obviously not the one I need.. nor am I what he seeks..... time to part ways.... thanks for clarifying that.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 9:20:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous
well when i was doing all my research about collaring ceremonies, i would say about 90% of the ones i found, included *breaking*

it was purely physical; beaten into submission. its kind of like a *prove yourself*

its "supposed" to be the most major beating of your submission to show that you were serious about it, to start you off extremely humble from the get-go.

at least, thats what i picked up.

nothing mentally, just physical. kinda like initiation.

Wow! 90%???????? Internet sites that related breaking and the most major beating of your submission to a collar ceremony?

We're in trouble if that statistic is correct....it means that our collective intelligence levels have just dropped to that held by your average teen aged gang banger.

At this point, I guess I will have to admit to everyone....I've never been "initiated" properly. Does this mean for all these years I've been a fake?????....lol.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 9:23:02 AM

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Erin.. do I need to get drinks to stand in this line?... LOL

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 9:24:35 AM

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so the idea of Him pushing you farther than what you want, pushing you down to His feet while simotaniously caning you, possibly until your skin were to break....

you would not feel a swelling of pride and honor after He tells you it is ok to stand, and after all of that, the *testing*, you still feel devout to Him, still want to serve.

of course, by theory, actions should be enough. i can readily see the appeal though of being able to *say*, 'see, you beat me to the ground, and still i do not resent You. See, you made me cry and showed me more pain that i want to ever expereince again, and still i want nothing but to serve you'

do you enjoy pain in any fashion? i do not physically enjoy it, besides that i have taken what He wants me to endure, and baby, does that do it for me.

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RE: slaves being broken - 5/16/2006 9:25:41 AM

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i wouldnt take my statistics to heart, but yes, more often than not, breaking was involved.

its ok, i am a *fake* too

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