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Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 9:10:41 AM   
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This is adressed mainly to the female subs and slaves here. (it is quite common for males in general to have shaved heads so may not be quite so insightful, you'll understand that statement more as i go on)

As a part of your ownership/collaring, were you required to have your hair removed? shaved bald? Call it a stripping of the former person to allow the rebuilding of a new one if you will.

This may have been done during the first stages of the relationship or later on in it.

My question to you is this. What was the emotional effect it had upon you? That is a very broad based question, and it is intended to be thereby allowing the maximum number of responses.

It is something i am both fascinated by, and wish to actually do at some point so I am seeking knowledge as to it's impact and the effect it produced, both at the time and also after the hair grows back.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 10:09:31 AM   
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It was more of the opposite for me, as in "Don't you dare cut your hair!"
It only frustrates me a bit when summer rolls around, but I tend to wear it up then.
I do like the bald look on men though.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 2:16:12 PM   
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As long as she has zero contact with the outside world, I suppose it's doable. But most offices I know wouldn't find this fits their dress code. Certainly if you have contact with clients at above the lowest retail level it will be a problem. You could sell in Hot Topics but not in Bergdorf Goodman.

Your purpose in this had better be to break off her ties to family because they will be strained. If that isn't what you wanted, then how do you want her to answer when her mother insists that because you did this to her, you're abusive.

If she has children of her own, this will embarrass them. You really want that her kids are so ashamed they drop any activities so she won't attend?

Better think it all the way out. Maybe it's hot in fantasy, but it doesn't work so well in the real world.


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 2:24:28 PM   
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As long as she has zero contact with the outside world, I suppose it's doable. But most offices I know wouldn't find this fits their dress code. Certainly if you have contact with clients at above the lowest retail level it will be a problem. You could sell in Hot Topics but not in Bergdorf Goodman.

Your purpose in this had better be to break off her ties to family because they will be strained. If that isn't what you wanted, then how do you want her to answer when her mother insists that because you did this to her, you're abusive.

If she has children of her own, this will embarrass them. You really want that her kids are so ashamed they drop any activities so she won't attend?

Better think it all the way out. Maybe it's hot in fantasy, but it doesn't work so well in the real world.



Des, yes this has been thought out entirely, her intent is to break family ties, the entire link to her past and to begin again. There is no work for a dress code to be adhered to as it also involves relocation and there are no children involved. It has also been discussed to within an inch of it's life so as that we are both certain that this is a good step to take.

Th entire purpose of this thread was to find others who have had this done, and how it afects mentally and so on. so that i can prepare for a good chunk of the possible eventualities as best i can.


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 2:31:29 PM   
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A woman I know in the local community here has shaved her head. This is what she wrote about why she did it.

I think that what DesFIP has written is a pretty broad generalization about people's attitudes regarding a woman who is bald. What about women who lose their hair due to chemo & choose not to cover that effect? I think that this woman I know is gorgeous without hair!! The last time I saw her, she had some glitter on her bald pate. I've actually been thinking about doing that myownself, just to see how it feels. My hair has been my "crowning glory" my whole life. Who would I be without the hair? How would people react to me? It would definitely be interesting. I've had my hair as short as less than an inch all over, but never gone completely bald.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 2:38:21 PM   
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I do know someone who did this just last weekend.  It wasn't at the accepting of her collar.  I believe she's been collared for some time now.  I am prone to say that this was a scene that was a couple of years in the making. 

I could have a look at her profile on another site to see if she has done a journal entry on the experience for you.  Please drop Me a note on the other side or on this thread if you are interested in Me making an inquiry.


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 2:46:05 PM   
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cringe. Master and i actually had this discussion this morning as i headed to the salon. i'm praying like hell he's yanking my chain.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 3:05:34 PM   
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Id reject it, because its taken me 14 years to grow my hair to my waist...

Most doms havent been in my life for that long let alone brought up the level of commitment to me that Ive had to keeping my hair  this long and healthy and shiny.

This isnt something that can be reversed, its one of those things that will change alot, what if You loose Your job? And shes required to work. What if afterwords it strains the relationship emotionally and she leaves you?


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 3:17:05 PM   
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LadyPact... you have Cmail :)

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 3:53:50 PM   
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Master has flatly forbidden me to cut my hair, other than to get maintainance trims. At this point it's almost down to the small of my back.

However, before he and I got together, I'd shaved my head a couple of times, for varying reasons (once because I was NOT willing to wait for a bad dye job to grow out, and once because I was tired of maintaining the mohawk I had then). Emotionally, the impact to me was minimal, but then I'm pretty choosy about whose opinions matter to me, and I've always had fun with being the 'weird one' in my family or whatever social group I was part of.

It takes anywhere from 1 to 6 months to get a 'buzz cut' look back with regrowth, and can take years to get the hair back to being long.

Considering that super short cuts on women are becoming a lot more socially acceptable, I would be surprised if there were any significant reaction from friends and family. Maybe a bit of 'omg what have you done?!' from the family, but at least with mine that lasted maybe a week, then they coped with it.

If the baldness or super short hair style does become a problem, either a workplace issue or family or what have you, there are decent looking wigs available at reasonable prices.


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 4:03:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
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Sneaks in with my magic eraser and removes littlwonders post
before Kana reads this and gets even more diabolical ideas.


Shhhhhhhhhh!

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 4:59:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

It was more of the opposite for me, as in "Don't you dare cut your hair!"
It only frustrates me a bit when summer rolls around, but I tend to wear it up then.
I do like the bald look on men though.


lol i was asked not to cut my hair. but then again it was long when i met mistress =]


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 9:18:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

As long as she has zero contact with the outside world, I suppose it's doable. But most offices I know wouldn't find this fits their dress code. Certainly if you have contact with clients at above the lowest retail level it will be a problem. You could sell in Hot Topics but not in Bergdorf Goodman.

Your purpose in this had better be to break off her ties to family because they will be strained. If that isn't what you wanted, then how do you want her to answer when her mother insists that because you did this to her, you're abusive.

If she has children of her own, this will embarrass them. You really want that her kids are so ashamed they drop any activities so she won't attend?

Better think it all the way out. Maybe it's hot in fantasy, but it doesn't work so well in the real world.



Is it even possible for you to respond without showing your snobbish prejudices?

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/2/2011 10:24:23 PM   
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Whew. I could never do it, would never do it, and hair cutting is a HARD limit/deal breaker.
Can't help but think of military induction or Krishna devotees/ Buddhist nuns.

Which is probably the point- severing and being made anew.

Should she need to interact with potentially judgmental folks, will she have the option of a head scarf?

I think that removing hair of appreciable length would have a strong reaction that she might not be able to expect. It does change your self identity. that's one reason shaving is done in bonding communities. It's a powerful marker.

Be ready to console if need be, accept anger at the event, whenever it arises.

But she could feel liberated. who knows until she's there?

And DesFIP posted some real concerns. I could not have grown dreads as a reporter. Voluntary bald would be as obvious. Depends on the community one interacts with.

oh, and if it is done, could it be at the beginning of a vacation so that the first striking difference is private?


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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 8:20:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: poise

It was more of the opposite for me, as in "Don't you dare cut your hair!"
It only frustrates me a bit when summer rolls around, but I tend to wear it up then.
I do like the bald look on men though.


Haha, yeah, same here. I like having my hair almost almost pixie-cut short in the summer, but he wants it always long enough to pull. Ah well, it's worth it.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 8:34:04 AM   
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You know, while it's still bald or just a little grown in, most people are probably going to think she has cancer. You might end up with mistakenly sympathetic neighbors/friends/etc trying to bring fruit baskets and or asking awkward questions and trying to be supportive. Which could be weird and awkward for her.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 8:44:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

You know, while it's still bald or just a little grown in, most people are probably going to think she has cancer. You might end up with mistakenly sympathetic neighbors/friends/etc trying to bring fruit baskets and or asking awkward questions and trying to be supportive. Which could be weird and awkward for her.



But most beneficial in getting her 5 portions a day! (Sorry, that one was irresistable)

Thus far people have come up with practical pitfalls such as the one listed above, what i cane here seeking was the emotional impact on someone who is intent on this happening suddenly realizing that their crowning glory is gone. Which was why iasked for those who have had it done to comment and share their experiences. Instead I seem to have spawned a "I like my hair" thread.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 10:05:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Syrox

This is adressed mainly to the female subs and slaves here. (it is quite common for males in general to have shaved heads so may not be quite so insightful, you'll understand that statement more as i go on)

As a part of your ownership/collaring, were you required to have your hair removed? shaved bald? Call it a stripping of the former person to allow the rebuilding of a new one if you will.

This may have been done during the first stages of the relationship or later on in it.

My question to you is this. What was the emotional effect it had upon you? That is a very broad based question, and it is intended to be thereby allowing the maximum number of responses.

It is something i am both fascinated by, and wish to actually do at some point so I am seeking knowledge as to it's impact and the effect it produced, both at the time and also after the hair grows back.


No head shaving was done during our high protocol collaring ceremony....only goat sacrificing.
I've always wanted a mohawk so if he chose to shave my head I'd be fine with it.

As for the concept of the stripping of my former person...why would he want to do that?
He was attracted to me as a person, to my personality.
Why would he want to erase that, if it was even possible?

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 10:08:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

As long as she has zero contact with the outside world, I suppose it's doable. But most offices I know wouldn't find this fits their dress code. Certainly if you have contact with clients at above the lowest retail level it will be a problem. You could sell in Hot Topics but not in Bergdorf Goodman.

Your purpose in this had better be to break off her ties to family because they will be strained. If that isn't what you wanted, then how do you want her to answer when her mother insists that because you did this to her, you're abusive.

If she has children of her own, this will embarrass them. You really want that her kids are so ashamed they drop any activities so she won't attend?

Better think it all the way out. Maybe it's hot in fantasy, but it doesn't work so well in the real world.



And if someone was going through chemo and lost their hair that way?
Would their job or relations still be in jeopardy?
People don't know why someone is bald.

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RE: Shaving of the head/hair, - 7/3/2011 11:30:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

As long as she has zero contact with the outside world, I suppose it's doable. But most offices I know wouldn't find this fits their dress code. Certainly if you have contact with clients at above the lowest retail level it will be a problem. You could sell in Hot Topics but not in Bergdorf Goodman.

Your purpose in this had better be to break off her ties to family because they will be strained. If that isn't what you wanted, then how do you want her to answer when her mother insists that because you did this to her, you're abusive.

If she has children of her own, this will embarrass them. You really want that her kids are so ashamed they drop any activities so she won't attend?

Better think it all the way out. Maybe it's hot in fantasy, but it doesn't work so well in the real world.



I'm going to go ahead and disagree with most of this. I work with people, and children especially, and I was bald for 7 months. Nobody cared. Some of the ums asked if I was a boy or a girl because the visual cue was gone, but nobody was embarrassed or went out of their way to avoid me. Most of them thought it was cool and asked to rub my head all the time. There are probably jobs where it wouldn't fly, but just to say you'll get fired isn't always the case.

On the other hand, I agree that to cut ties with family could/would cause some relationship strain, but being bald doesn't automatically mean one can't see their family. My family accepted my baldness, not like there was anything they could do to change it once it was done anyway.

To answer the OP, I was shaved about 2 months into my current relationship and kept shaved for 7. It wasn't for collaring or anything, we just made a scene out of something I already wanted to do (which was shave my head). I wept during, and that took both of us by surprise I think. I crashed pretty hard afterward in the shower, but once I got out I was fine. I loved it, I felt freer somehow. If you have more specific questions let me know, I'm not totally sure what you're looking for.

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