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kalikshama -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/4/2011 4:28:32 PM)
quote: After enjoying a sandwiches in a quad on the grounds, he yanked out a little pipe and recited this ridiculously long name this strain he had on him and we took a few hits. Immediately a campus cop (MASPD Auxillary like on most MA campuses) and he say "Gentlemen, if I smell that again, I'm going to have to give you a ticket". We grinned and complied. About half an hour later I was at the Charles st. Platform and watched a guy placed under arrest for smoking tobacco ... the world is a funny place these days. I LOVE MASSACHUSETTS!!!

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/4/2011 4:33:06 PM)
Cool, Termy. I didn't really think you were saying that but I'm a teensy bit impaired on the hydrocodone today & perhaps not 'splainin myself properly. I've heard from a few people who have survived when the safety equipment might have killed them. Sort of proving my theory that when it's your time to go, ain't nothin gonna get in the way. Like the guy who rode a bike with leathers & helmet, etc, but one day he decided to ride the bike into his back yard to wash it & since he was only going to be riding from the garage into the yard, he didn't don any of the safety equipment. Who would??? Yeah you guessed it: he hit a depression with his front tire & he was thrown over the handlebars, landed on his head & died instantly. My thinkin is that if he'd been standing in his living room he'd have died from some fluke happening anyway. So do whatever you think that you should, when it's over it's over. I just felt better on the bike with the helmet & the boots on. Oddly enough, I didn't wear even a leather jacket until 2 days before I got run over. I wore a WWI wool army jacket. But I had gone to visit my boyfriend in OR & his bio-brother was a leather worker, Hanna Leathers in Sausalito. The bf didn't like me not wearing leather on the bike, so he gave me a beautiful very thick deerhide jacket with a thick quilted lining. I had it on 2 days later & it ended up ripped through the leather, through the quilting, my shirt was torn & I had a very mild scratch on my skin. So, it weren't my time, I'm thinkin.

0ldhen -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 6:28:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: a lot of stuff is illegal that should actually be a choice,... smoking Um....smoking is legal. I include smoking , yes tobacco Greedyliscious, because the way things are going, it is most likely to be the next thing made illegal.

0ldhen -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 6:29:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomImus quote: ORIGINAL: 0ldhen 2% of all motorcycle riders will have an accident, .29% of these will be single vehicle accidents, the rest involve cars/trucks 6.9% of all car drivers will have an accident Only .0007% of MC riders will suffer a fatal accident, While.0002% of cars will experience a fatal accident And, "thinning the herd" hmm....how bout we just shoot the cage drivers who cause the majority of bike accidents? Lots of statistics in your post. None to support the statement I italicized. I quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: I hear that sentiment bandied about by motorcyclists and their advocates often. It's the reason we have to have the law. Obviously, those folks won't like it. Follow the link I included to ABATE, you'll find said statistics.

thishereboi -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 6:34:48 AM)
If we are going to shoot the cage drivers who cause accidents, can we also shoot the bikers who drive to fast, cut in and out of traffic and make their own lanes when the ones available already have cars in them?

0ldhen -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 6:39:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi If we are going to shoot the cage drivers who cause accidents, can we also shoot the bikers who drive to fast, cut in and out of traffic and make their own lanes when the ones available already have cars in them? Oh God, please do! The rice rocket riders are giving us old biker types a worse reputation than the bad "Hells Angels on Wheels" B movies ever did. Then again, I HATE to see the word BIKER applied to those guys anyway.

GreedyTop -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 6:44:20 AM)
I'm tempted, sometimes, Boi.. usually, the ones doing that are the ones riding the crotch rockets; usually VERY YOUNG, and quite often, riding in a pack with others who are equally as young on the same types of bikes.. I think the IMMORTALITY FACTOR is often in play.. which is fine, but they don't seem to realize that they could not only hurt themselves, but any innocent bystander(driver?). sigh this reminds of the bumper stickers that say "if it is tourist season, why can't I shoot them?" Most everyone I have ever known (notice, I say MOST, not ALL) that ride the cruiser types of bikes are NOT the highspeed/zigzag/stupid driving action types you are talking about. as a former rider safety instructor (I wuold still be doing that if I still had a bike..), the types you talk about make me CRAZY!!

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 12:18:32 PM)
One time I watched a 4-wheeler make a left turn right in front of a motorcycle cop. The cop went after the guy & pulled him over. I wished that I coulda made myself invisible to hear what he said to that fuckin idiot. Hopefully the guy never made such a stoopid mistake again. After the accident, which was while I was in college, I did some research into conspicuity for bikers. Turns out that it didn't seem to matter what a biker did to make himself more visible to 4-wheelers, none of it helped. Turned out the problem appeared to be our perceptions. When one sees a motorcycle, because it's smaller than the other vehicles, people perceive that it's farther away than it actually is. Therefore, they have plenty of time to make that turn in front of it. I ran with my headlight on bright in the daytime in the hopes that I would be more visible. btw, the bikers who pulled into the left lane I was merging into with the big truck were riding cruisers, not crotch rockets. I think that there is a real problem with people buying & riding bikes now because of the gas prices & midlife crises & they don't have a clue about how to ride well. I had a group of cruiser riders who passed me while I was driving the truck, then pulled back into my lane without leaving proper distance & went slower than I was going. I was very fortunate in that I had a very close friend who taught me & taught me & kept teaching me so that by the time I actually took the bike out onto the street, I was well-informed on how to ride it & ride it safely. I've seen too many 2-wheelers do such stoopid stuff out there.

SternSkipper -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 10:49:28 PM)
quote: And here's the thing about that: apparently smoking dope gives you worse lung issues than smoking tobacco. Hmmmmm..... I'll remember that in another six months when I have occasion to smoke again.. Hmmmm [:D]

Termyn8or -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 10:50:13 PM)
"I'm tempted, sometimes, Boi.. " Shoot for the crotchrocketeers in the front. The rest will probably wreck into them, and then the rest. Might kill a bunch of them, remember, a helmet doesn't mean shit at 130 MPH. Note that I have no problem with people who want to do 200 MPH, I used to be one of them. But the time to do that is not fucking rush hour. You go out at like three in the morning, or better about four thirty is the optimal time. Depends on when the cops change shifts. But here I know of a place or two where you can actually do it, and one is a fairly long course, over a mile I think. Nobody will be on it, guaranteed, and if they are, they are just as crazy. Maybe you'll get the "V". You know what that means. We used to have Quigley until the area got more businesses. Many people died. It was THE dragstrip of the town for more than a decade. Train Avenue was OK, but the same thing happened. Note that these places were chosen because innocent bystanders would NOT be there. Te real problem with these punks is that they never had a place to really cut loose, to face real death or something possibly worse, like we did in the past. You want your kids to die in a drag race ? My family was OK with it, in fact my Grampa filmed it. Well not dying, but some races. Actually mostly time trials that they ran themselves. Yup, the old stopwatches and all that. We were speed demons, and BTW, if anyone wants some ideas on how to soup up something, I know some shit that Summit Racing would love to know. I know how to make a BIG V8 do 9,000 RPM without blowing. It took my family years to figure it out, and no, it's not roller crank bearings. It does require some custom machining though ....... Enough, you knew I was nuts before, why add to that ? T^T

Termyn8or -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 10:58:00 PM)
"When one sees a motorcycle, because it's smaller than the other vehicles, people perceive that it's farther away than it actually is." And convex mirrors on the right side make it worse. "OBJECTS IN MIRROR ARE CLOSER THAN THEY APPEAR". I know people who have made it a point to change those to flat mirrors so that object in the mirror are NOT closer than they appear. Then they get a spotter mirror on the corner. Noranlly, I and many others just look back and see how far those "objects" are, but in some trucks you simply can't do that. But then an experienced bike rider knows that and will hang back. But then four wheelers keep jumping in and the driver of a truck or van can't really benefit from the favor a biker did for them. Speaking of which ALL ! There is something written, it was posted on this forum years ago. I think it was called "You didn't see me". I think it is worthy of reposting. ETA: "After the accident, which was while I was in college, I did some research into conspicuity for bikers." Strobe lights. They say you aren't allowed to have them but better to be judged by twelve than to be carried by six. T^T

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 11:09:23 PM)
Actually, Termy, one of the things that researchers tried was a flashing light on top of the helmet & it didn't seem to make them more visible to four-wheelers. It's in the perception. It's how they were able to kill so many bison. They'd walk into a herd & start firing & the bison would just stand there because they didn't perceive these humans as being dangerous to them. Same concept. Seems that the only answer is to educate drivers of other vehicles, but since it seems to me that any yahoo can get a driver's license these days without having any actual skill or knowledge of how to operate the vehicle they're driving, I have little hope that they will receive education that will change their faulty perceptions.

SternSkipper -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 11:37:22 PM)
quote: I LOVE MASSACHUSETTS!!! I particularly love where I live... I keep thinking about putting up some pictures of the places around my house i spend my downtime checking out

Termyn8or -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/5/2011 11:43:54 PM)
"Seems that the only answer is to educate drivers of other vehicles," People have been educated as to all kinds of shit, the ignorant, well, it just don't take. Whatever the colors and flash sequence used in your state by state troopers, use it. Have a button like a horn button. HIGH power strobes like they use, the ones that can be seen for counties. Just remember when you use it, they will tend to pull to the right. And when you pass them they will breathe a sigh of relief. It'll take YEARS for anyone to get busted. Of course you want to stay legal, but is that more important than staying alive ? I'll market the thing, I bet it would sell. So what if it's illegal. It's not so much illegal, I just put on the website "I certifiy that in my jurisdiction it is not against the law to own this product". That says nothing about using the product. It's not like selling machine guns with silencers. Those would not be on the same page ........:-) The "second stage page" LOL. T^T

0ldhen -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 4:06:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis there is a real problem with people buying & riding bikes now because of the gas prices & midlife crises & *they don't have a clue about how to ride well*. As a MSF certified safety instructor for both street and offroad riding, I agree. Which is sad, I teach littles on up for free, always have always will. If you buy a Harley, HOG offers free lessons, The ABATE chapters of every state offer beginning, intermediate and experienced classes for a minimal fee. Most state DMV's offer classes. I am a firm believer in riders education. Grins....I could start a whole new debate here........best way for folks to know that a bike is on the road with em? LOUD PIPES!

LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 4:15:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 0ldhen quote: ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis there is a real problem with people buying & riding bikes now because of the gas prices & midlife crises & *they don't have a clue about how to ride well. As a MSF certified safety instructor for both street and offroad riding, I agree. Which is sad, I teach littles on up for free, always have always will. If you buy a Harley, HOG offers free lessons, The ABATE chapters of every state offer beginning, intermediate and experienced classes for a minimal fee. Most state DMV's offer classes. I am a firm believer in riders education. Grins....I could start a whole new debate here........best way for folks to know that a bike is on the road with em? LOUD PIPES!* Oh HELL yeah!!!!! I had a neighbor with a Harley & I loved it when he'd come home or leave his place & set off all the car alarms! I'd just sit & giggle!!! And Rolling Thunder!!!! OMYLORD! Nothing like that sound!!!

0ldhen -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 5:51:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis quote: ORIGINAL: 0ldhen quote: ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis there is a real problem with people buying & riding bikes now because of the gas prices & midlife crises & *they don't have a clue about how to ride well. As a MSF certified safety instructor for both street and offroad riding, I agree. Which is sad, I teach littles on up for free, always have always will. If you buy a Harley, HOG offers free lessons, The ABATE chapters of every state offer beginning, intermediate and experienced classes for a minimal fee. Most state DMV's offer classes. I am a firm believer in riders education. Grins....I could start a whole new debate here........best way for folks to know that a bike is on the road with em? LOUD PIPES!* Oh HELL yeah!!!!! I had a neighbor with a Harley & I loved it when he'd come home or leave his place & set off all the car alarms! I'd just sit & giggle!!! And Rolling Thunder!!!! OMYLORD! Nothing like that sound!!! Oh hell yes! Our 4th of July parade ended as always with the combined ABATE districts riding in formation. Great sounds, here is a pic.... [image]local://upfiles/1132733/50815F4090644641BCDFFD2117AFCF53.jpg[/image]

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 6:06:26 AM)
when i had my car accident, my mom was riding with me. i had my seatbelt on and she didn't. my seatbelt kept me from breaking my neck after the car stopped rolling and landed on its roof. NOT wearing her seatbelt caused my mom to be ejected from the car, but if she HADN'T been, she'd have been smashed. her side of the car was totally flattened. i think the choice should be up to the person, really. i generally wear my seatbelt to avoid tickets. and i was personally in a situation where mine saved my life (or at least saved me from a broken neck), but of course, right next to me was a situation of a lack of a seatbelt saving a life, so... sometimes the safety equipment itself can lead to serious injury and death. cripes, walking out of your house can lead to it if a storm came through and loosened a big tree limb enough to fall on you. =p

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 6:14:07 AM)
and as far as the bikes vs. car thing -- i don't know how many times i've been nearly sideswiped in traffic by a person on a bike doing something asinine, weaving around through traffic, cutting off cars where they barely have time to brake, doubling up next to you in a lane, etc etc. people in cars don't always see bikes, but it isn't always because they're negligent and hate bikers. =p sometimes the bikers are more at fault.

thishereboi -> RE: Carefull what you wish for,... (7/6/2011 6:43:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: 0ldhen quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi If we are going to shoot the cage drivers who cause accidents, can we also shoot the bikers who drive to fast, cut in and out of traffic and make their own lanes when the ones available already have cars in them? Oh God, please do! The rice rocket riders are giving us old biker types a worse reputation than the bad "Hells Angels on Wheels" B movies ever did. Then again, I HATE to see the word BIKER applied to those guys anyway. Actually the last asshole I saw who seemed to think that line between the lanes was his own personal lane was driving a harley.

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