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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/6/2011 5:38:35 PM

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I sat thru three hours of british parliamentary debate today( and I thought I wasnt a maso sigh)
The scum sucking ditch pigs asshole must be puckering making sixpences lmao, I also watched their stock drop.. but meh not as fast as I would like.
Im glad to see the advertising dropping like flies, and by some pretty big companies too.boycotting the NOTW and the sun and the times, is in full swing, and Im so freakin happy to see it
As for the others involved in the scandal, the Mail and Mirror are just as bloody bad, but it does my heart glad to see this cunt in trouble.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/6/2011 6:35:50 PM

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I would love to see you try to explain what you mean by "his type of news"

Sorry about the formatting .... it's wiki and I cleaned it up a little anyway... This is what she was talking about there's a sample front page below.

Murdoch imported the sensationalist "tabloid journalism" style of many of his Australian and British newspapers, such as The Sun (the highest selling daily newspaper in the UK). This style was typified by Post's famous headlines such as “Headless body in topless bar” (shown on the right). In its 35th-anniversary edition, New York Magazine listed this as one of the greatest headlines ever. It also has five other Post headlines in its "Greatest Tabloid Headlines" list.[25]
Because of the institution of federal regulations limiting media cross-ownership after Murdoch's purchase of WNYW-TV to launch the Fox Broadcasting Company, Murdoch was forced to sell the paper for US$37.6 million in 1988 to Peter S. Kalikow, a real-estate magnate with no news experience.[26] When Kalikow declared bankruptcy in 1993,[26] the paper was temporarily managed by Steven Hoffenberg,[26] a financier who later pleaded guilty to securities fraud;[27] and, for two weeks, by Abe Hirschfeld,[28] who made his fortune building parking garages. After a staff revolt against the Hoffenberg-Hirschfeld partnership — which included publication of an issue whose front page featured the iconic masthead photo of Alexander Hamilton with a single tear drop running down his cheek[29]—The Post was repurchased in 1993 by Murdoch's News Corporation.

This came about after numerous political officials, including Democratic governor of New York Mario Cuomo, persuaded the Federal Communications Commission to grant Murdoch a permanent waiver from the cross-ownership rules that had forced him to sell the paper five years earlier.[30] Without that FCC ruling, the paper would have shut down. Under Murdoch's renewed direction, the paper continued its conservative editorial viewpoint.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/6/2011 6:54:04 PM

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Actually this ..pretty much says it all for me... up until the nineties
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sun_%28newspaper%29
altho its not nearly as in depth as it should be/could be.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/6/2011 6:58:57 PM

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In short. it is like a business vehicle you buy new, use a number of years and sell off for what you can get after you ran the wheels off it. And with his access to Myspace data still as part of the sale, Murdoch sold the cow but gets his share of the cream still, alas.

In short... Myspace got it's marketshare ass handed to them by facebook's vastly superior marketing strategy and better overall product. I'll bet money on the fact Facebook will be around 10 years from now and in the number one or number two slot and myspace will be something you'll need to explain to younger people (having an open mind that there could be a 'next big idea' with the sand to challenge em, and even maybe succeed... competition being a better thing that the buy up every outlet model, or run the car into the ground model). Kinda like Herman's Hermits as opposed to the Stones.
And thankfully, there are still a large number of companies what are nimble enough and visionary enough to run an adaptive game vs this run the car till the wheels come off and then junk it. Or we wouldn't have companies like IBM, GE or Boeing, would we?

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/6/2011 7:15:52 PM

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Don't laugh to hard just yet, What ever value Myspace might have had, Murdoch rode it hard and put it away wet. Used it like a rental car, etc.

Most the complaints about Myspace amount to those found regarding any other application whose authors and companies do minimal maintenance on their product.

Facebook's data mining and snooping is starting to torque a lot of people also. And them and Microsoft are getting entirely too close to please me.

I only keep a minimal account because some of my relatives use the site. And never bothered with Myspace.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 12:05:08 AM

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It seems there's near universal agreement that the lizard king isn't a terribly nice chap.

Do people need reminding that the sleaze bag owns an awful lot of media in an awful lot of influential countries - the US, the UK and Australia among them - and wields a huge amount of political power as a result? The lizard king has been ruthless about using his media to promote his political agenda. Politicians in 3 different continents are/were terrified of him. It's taken years of pressure and a scandal of this proportions for UK politicians to find the courage to stand up to Murdoch.

Dollars and cents aside, aren't there implications here about the role of the media in the functioning of our various democracies? Media are the primary source of information for most people. Those who control the media have the power to influence events and policies. Do we want another Murdoch deciding what information people get, which politicians to back and which to drop, which causes get fair exposure in the media and which get trashed?

Are there larger questions to be asked here? Should it be left to the markets to decide who decides what gets to control the news? Is the role of the media in a democracy too important to be left to those whose primary talent is bean counting and whose sole interest is their own bank balance?

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RE: Loser Rupert Loses Billions over Myspace fuck-up. - 7/7/2011 1:42:32 AM

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Why should I care when he doesn't ?

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 6:30:26 AM

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Admit it

Youre only filled with hate for him because he isnt a big lefty

It isnt his media empire that bothers you, there are others which are much the same that lean left that you and your friends never mention

Freedom of the press the real issue here. Leftists hate hate hate a free press

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 7:01:02 AM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Admit it

Youre only filled with hate for him because he isnt a big lefty

It isnt his media empire that bothers you, there are others which are much the same that lean left that you and your friends never mention

Freedom of the press the real issue here. Leftists hate hate hate a free press

Such a talent for getting things the back to front!

I want a free press. Murdoch controls 60% of the print media here, 40% in the UK. And of course Faux News, WSJ and other outlets in the US. That's a near-monopoly - and a monopoly cannot be a free press. Murdoch's media are slaves to his business interests and political agenda. Is that a free press? Not a single one of Murdoch's outlets opposed the Iraq fiasco ...is that a free press?

And I certainly don't want any one whose corporations behave in the manner Murdoch's companies are known to have behaved in the UK in charge of media in any democracy. Who wants criminals in charge of the media? Is that your idea of a free press?

Please remind me, Sanity, weren't you one of those who defended Faux News' 'right' to lie, to invent the news? Is that your idea of a free press?

I want a free press - that means media that isn't beholden to any one's interests but the truth and the public interest. Media diversity is the only guarantee of that. It might be a radical idea to you but it's vital for the proper functioning of any democracy

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 7:37:53 AM

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I will put it another way

You wouldnt care how far a media conglomerate went so long as it pushed all the far left mantra and lies

That Murdoch is a voice of opposition is what infuriates you so

Makes you hate as you do

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 8:31:58 AM

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So you`re saying you must also lie,cuz they do`t too?

That was easy......

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 8:45:02 AM

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I will put it another way
You wouldnt care how far a media conglomerate went so long as it pushed all the far left mantra and lies

Tell me is there some special program you attend to become a dullard of your magnitude? Cause I gotta tell you, I can't believe your able to type these same canned phrases over and over and still remain conscious.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 8:57:45 AM

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So you`re saying you must also lie,cuz they do too?
That was easy......

Careful ... you'll anger him and he'll start telling you George Sorros is an American liberal and how you march in lockstep with him.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 9:10:34 AM

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I`m reminded of the '1984' scenes where there`s always an "enemy at the gates,we must mobilizes","do something "etc.

But there`s no enemy.Just a bunch of sheepish dopes who worship fear like it`s a religion.

We all gotta be "afraid of George Sorros,he`s at the gates and `behind all our troubles.We must suck the devil`s cock for funding to fight this menus to America".

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 5:19:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

I will put it another way

You wouldnt care how far a media conglomerate went so long as it pushed all the far left mantra and lies

That Murdoch is a voice of opposition is what infuriates you so

Makes you hate as you do

I thought I made my position crystal clear in my post:

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tweakabelle
I want a free press - that means media that isn't beholden to any one's interests but the truth and the public interest. Media diversity is the only guarantee of that. It might be a radical idea to you but it's vital for the proper functioning of any democracy

It appears I was correct in anticipating that you would have difficulty understanding it.

Just for you I'll repeat once more (this time in red capitals so you can't possibly miss it):

DIVERSITY OF MEDIA OWNERSHIP GUARANTEES A FREE PRESS.

DIVERSITY OF MEDIA OWNERSHIP IS ESSENTIAL FOR THE PROPER FUNCTIONING OF THE MEDIA IN A DEMOCRACY.

And I'll leave all the hating to you and your fellow wingnuts - it's one area where you guys definitely have an abundance of talent. Some would say it's the only area ......

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 6:43:45 PM

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FR -

Barely a flesh wound

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UK tabloid closure points to Murdoch savvy

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Rupert Murdoch's decision to close the 168-year-old weekly British tabloid at the center of a phone-hacking scandal is an example of what the controlling shareholder of News Corp. does best — seize the news agenda, and when necessary, cut his losses.

He's also got his eye on a much bigger prize.

The surprisingly bold move to shutter News of the World, a financial pipsqueak, is the best way to stem the flow of damaging headlines at rival newspapers and clear regulatory hurdles that stand in the way of News Corp.'s pending multi-billion-dollar acquisition of British Sky Broadcasting, a cash cow that will boost earnings of the media giant.

"This is, to me, Murdoch taking back control," said Louise Cooper, a markets analyst at London-based BGC Partners. "The whole thing is an utter mess. He's trying to make the best of it he can."

http://news.yahoo.com/uk-tabloid-closure-points-murdoch-savvy-211802604.html

Two things about Rupert Murdoch that infuriates leftists:

1. They cant stand for freedom of the press, and he doesnt spew their propaganda so he is the epitome of evil to them

2. He is wildly successful in his media enterprises even as their media flagships are all failing miserably

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 6:46:12 PM

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Is it salty,or sweet?

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 6:55:23 PM

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LMFAO oh dear gawd, its even better than I thought, that is sooooo typical.LMAO he found a talking point.
took him all this time tho
guess, its been a busy day for the brown nosers to come up with something...
snorting, what a maroon

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 7:12:56 PM

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I love you Lucy.

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RE: Oh the Lizard of Oz has other troubles now. - 7/7/2011 9:47:16 PM

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Actually Sanity in an odd kind of way I admire you. As the rest of the entire world is lining up to take pot shots at the hapless billionaire Murdoch, you're staunchly sticking by him.

Murdoch does need someone else to defend him from the tsunami-scale charges of criminality, duplicity, hypocrisy, profiteering out of people's misery heading his way as layer after layer of his seemingly endless sleaze is uncovered. I mean, who's stupid enough to believe his account of things any more? Or to take his word at face value ever again?

I do hope you're wearing a washable rubber coat though .... I'd hate to think any of the stuff headed Murdoch's way ends up on you.

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