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Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/5/2011 2:35:24 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		This is about oil. They had an ad for a blogger on craigslist that was here today - gone today. I just happened to save the page and found the same thing on their site :

http://www.beringexplore.com/careers/

The CL page didn't include stock information, but the text was there. Whatever the intent of recruiting bloggers may be, probably to promote public awareness you would think, why would the ad get removed ? Everything that was on that page is contained at the site in the link. There is absolutley nothing I can see that could violate even the most draconian TOS.




"According to the Congressional Research Service (CRS) in a report released this March, the United States’ combined recoverable natural gas, oil and coal endowment is estimated to be the largest on Earth.

According to the new report, an updated version of a 2009 paper, the United States’ resources are larger than Saudi Arabia, China and Canada, combined. The report estimates that the U.S. has 163 billion barrels of recoverable oil and enough natural gas to meet the country’s demand for 90 years.

Bering Exploration (OTCBB:BERX) believes that it is time to end our dependence on foreign and offshore oil. We are looking for a team of bloggers that share our passion regarding safe environmental practices and ending foreign dependence on oil."





As to the content, they lumped coal into the mix. Coal has gotten alot of bad publicity and I can understand. When there were fewer people to supply with energy coal burning didn't mean much, but today most are of the opinion that there would be too much pollution and/or too much trouble abating the pollution. My opinion on that has nothing to do with it.

And we already knew that there was oil in them thar hills, but extracting it from the shale is not easy. Perhaps Bering is onto something, like a new method. I intend to explore their site a bit further and find out more, but why was it removed ?

I had an ad for a lathe removed because I pissed off a scammer. Tried to give me a story about he was in the army or whatever and was buying this for his Uncle, some shit like that. I said send him on over with CASH. My ad clearly said CASH ONLY, and getting a bit annoyed with the attempted scammers I asked how someone could get in the military without knowing what the word CASH means. I am not talking about the theories and all that like some, I mean US currency in my hand and your truck in my driveway.

I've also noticed the ads asking people to flag ads for removal "because they are a scam" are now getting flagged for removal. LOL. But who would flag that one in the first place ?

Is there something wrong with paying people to write for a blog ?

Or is there something wrong with something else, like upsetting the status quo ?

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/5/2011 3:21:26 PM   
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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/5/2011 3:41:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		You know of course the status quo exists, and you know it wont be bucked, but the question is, what is the status quo ?

You see, I believe everything is connected and by being connected everything is dependant on each other, so whatever the status quo is, it is a tried and trusted model that works for those that are the status quo, so why change when something works already ?

Status Quo according to Etymology Online means ;1833, from L. status quo "the state in which," hence "existing state of affairs." Also status quo ante "the state in which before, state of affairs previous" (1877).And Wiki on the matter

So in summary, it is the same as my thoughts above, something works, why change it for an unknown quantity.

But if there is black gold in them thar hills, where does that put the military machine and all it's sycophants ?

(Oh shit, they may have to be slimmed down and held in reserve to protect the borders from others who seek the wealth in oil that America has)





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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 3:01:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have contacted that company. We shall see what happens.

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 9:02:42 AM   
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Is there something wrong with paying people to write for a blog ?

Or is there something wrong with something else, like upsetting the status quo ?

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Probably because Craigslist does consider it a scam, and they've got good reason. The text in that teaser is deliberately misleading. Yes, the oil is technically recoverable, but you'll notice that  the ad very carefully leaves that term out of their text. That's misleading. What "technically recoverable" means is that yes, you can get it out of the ground, but it will cost you far more than the oil is worth - in some cases, as much as $300 or $400 a barrel. If oil ever goes to $300 a barrel, it won't matter how much of it we have, because our economy will have completely collapsed.

The purpose of the ad is to recruit people to help them spread that misinformation so they can drive their stock price up. That's a scam, and CL was right to pull it.


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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 9:12:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would think its along the same lines as the reasoning they pulled the ads looking for political writers, comments, blogs etc for stephen harper. They pay you to spread lies about the opposition, and make it seem as if it is "normal people"


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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 9:36:39 AM   
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Yes, the oil is technically recoverable, but you'll notice that  the ad very carefully leaves that term out of their text. That's misleading. What "technically recoverable" means is that yes, you can get it out of the ground, but it will cost you far more than the oil is worth - in some cases, as much as $300 or $400 a barrel. If oil ever goes to $300 a barrel, it won't matter how much of it we have, because our economy will have completely collapsed.


That, and oil recovered from shale, sands, and other "technically proven" reserves like offshore sites tends to be heavier and higher in impurities (water, sulfur, nitrogen, oxygen, but mostly sulfur), and markedly less useful for producing fuels given it has to be purified prior to refining, being very low in 1C-16C hydrocarbons from the beginning which is what makes it "heavy", and having to be cracked to produce more 6C-10C hydrocarbons after the first distillation process. Long story short, it's not even petroleum; not as it's commonly known (i.e. light sweet crude), anyhow.

That's after you apply the costly, heavily damaging to the environment, extraction and transportation methods mentioned above.

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 12:19:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		So a company comes forward, announces (in the 'careers section' of their site) that the US Goverment has lied about the amount of 'oil, natural gas, and coal' to be found in the country's borders. The US Goverment does have anything to gain or lose by announcing its figures with evidence of a scientific nature. However, this company, Bering Exploration, doesn't post verifiable evidence that contradicts the goverment's knowledge base on the issue. Further, it tries to imply this, 'Congressional Research Service' is similar to the Congressal Budget Office or the Goverment Accounting Office. The CRS is a 'think tank' like many others that provide information to Congress. In this case, this one seems to be pushing an agenda to net goverment and/or industrial/commercial dollars towards its members.

I just suspect the whole thing is not legitimate. Craigslist was correct to remove this it seems.

BTW, Termie, coal burning creating pollution isn't 'someone's opinion', its a matter of heavy amounts of scientific study and research.

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 10:01:04 PM   
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I suppose it makes sense, IF they don't have any new methods. And I know coal is nasty, but we might not have much of a choice someday. Nothing is really getting done about dependence on foreign oil. Are they selling a dream ? Maybe.

They did not say they contradict the government figures. However without some better methods of extracting the oil, getting it would make a big mess.

After a bit better look I am a bit suscpicious though, the company claims some 23,000 shares out at 2/3. Pretty much a penny stock, which is not illegal as far as I know. And I was mistaken, after checking my history and the original page it turns out it took about forty hours for it to be removed 7/4 01:19 - 7/5 17:09.

The removal assumes facts not in evidence, but so do many. If you want to buy a gun and see one on CL, SAVE THE PAGE IMMEDIATELY. It will be gone very fast, but that is a TOS violation. Now the ones who urge others flag ads are getting flagged. LOL. But there is no scam protection at all, the disclaimers are there. The company never asked for money, in fact they indicated that they would pay.

I wish I would have saved the one by a guy who wanted to buy weed. " I want the gonja ! ". Better than best of craigslist.

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 10:06:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: joether

So a company comes forward, announces (in the 'careers section' of their site) that the US Goverment has lied about the amount of 'oil, natural gas, and coal' to be found in the country's borders. The US Goverment does have anything to gain or lose by announcing its figures with evidence of a scientific nature. However, this company, Bering Exploration, doesn't post verifiable evidence that contradicts the goverment's knowledge base on the issue. Further, it tries to imply this, 'Congressional Research Service' is similar to the Congressal Budget Office or the Goverment Accounting Office. The CRS is a 'think tank' like many others that provide information to Congress. In this case, this one seems to be pushing an agenda to net goverment and/or industrial/commercial dollars towards its members.

I just suspect the whole thing is not legitimate. Craigslist was correct to remove this it seems.

BTW, Termie, coal burning creating pollution isn't 'someone's opinion', its a matter of heavy amounts of scientific study and research.


Except that the sulfur from coal is claimed to have inhibited global warming. Strange conundrum.


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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 10:12:37 PM   
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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/6/2011 11:35:00 PM   
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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/7/2011 12:41:45 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		You want ME to play spelling police ? Do you assert that punctuation is irrelevant ? Want to try that game ?

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/7/2011 5:28:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You want ME to play spelling police ? Do you assert that punctuation is irrelevant ? Want to try that game ?

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No clue what you're talking about there, bub. There was nothing wrong with my punctuation.

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/7/2011 3:15:44 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Actually I'm only reponding because this thread is a self-derailer anyway. It seems to have run it's course.

I saw your reply and figured I would do a spell check. Really, the only thing I could cite you for is improper asterisk usage*. The bold or italic button is a better way to enphasize words. (emphasise for some) So don't take it in a bad way. However I do see how it may be hard to understand how I could possibly use the letter "A" when it is supposed to be  an "O".

It is puzzling to me as well because the two letters are not near each other on the qwerty keyboard. It does happen though, and others. Not normal typos either, and yes I do know how to spell to some degree. If I get too bored perhaps I'll start a thread about it.

But since this thread was about CL in the first place, I found interesting an ad for a writer which supposedly contains one error. It states that to be considered one must find that error. I admit I couldn't find it but I only read it twice.

So don't worry, your poetic license is valid along with the slang and word inventing endorsements should you decide to use them.

Have a laugh about it. Life isn't too short, it's too damn long without some laughter. (maybe I am bored enough to start that thread)

* in another thread

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RE: Flagged for remaval from CL, why ? - 7/7/2011 3:28:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
I've also noticed the ads asking people to flag ads for removal "because they are a scam" are now getting flagged for removal. LOL. But who would flag that one in the first place ?

Is there something wrong with paying people to write for a blog ?

Or is there something wrong with something else, like upsetting the status quo ?

T^T

All sorts of ads get flagged and removed from CL, its usually the readers flag and it takes more than one flag to get a post removed. Right or wrong, thats the way its done there, from my experience.

Imo, yes there is something wrong with getting a whole bunch of paid bloggers, its called "stock manipulation"....

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