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Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad per c... - 7/5/2011 4:00:24 PM   
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US Population 305,504,073 position in the Olympics 2nd, Golds 36
UK Population around 60,587,600 about 1/5 of the US, Olympics 4th, Golds 19
Australia around 21 million about 1/3 of the U.K., Olympic position 6th, Golds 14

The U.S. has a huge population and yet the combined total of these two commonwealth countries, despite being a fraction of the population almost match them. Is it because Yanks are so fat?

Could this lack of athleticism be why the U.S. invented its own games and rarely plays the sports of the rest of the world?
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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 4:11:58 PM   
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Size of population has nothing to do with the outcome of Olympic rankings. It has more to do with how the funding is provided for training time and facilities. Some countries like China provide full funding thru the government for the athletes. In the US it is primarily done thru private contributions. In addition some countries only do well in the winter games, while others do well in the summer games. It also has a lot to do with the sports that are common in their homelands.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 4:13:40 PM   
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Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad per capita?

I think that becuase of their symbole which is cangaroo,
When the US symbole is an Eagle,
so US would be better with flying.....


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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 4:29:50 PM   
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No buses in Australia so they have to run and swim to get to work ?

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 5:17:48 PM   
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Is it because Yanks are so fat?



The USA does, admittedly, lead the world in fatness, Phil, with nearly a third of its population being obese. The UK isn't far behind, with roughly a quarter of its population being porkers. Clearly, the problem in both countries lies in the evil that is socialism and nothing at all to do with people being greedy, lazy slobs.

I hope that helps.



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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 5:43:31 PM   
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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 5:56:31 PM   
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Is it because Yanks are so fat?



The USA does, admittedly, lead the world in fatness, Phil, with nearly a third of its population being obese. The UK isn't far behind, with roughly a quarter of its population being porkers. Clearly, the problem in both countries lies in the evil that is socialism and nothing at all to do with people being greedy, lazy slobs.

I hope that helps.




No, that doesn't help really.



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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 7:40:54 PM   
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No buses in Australia so they have to run and swim to get to work ?


lots of buses, lots of trains. also, LOTS of beaches and a whole outback for the madmen. wiki's explanation: note the reference to the national religion

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 8:05:33 PM   
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It's simple, really. Each country is only allowed to send a certain number of atheletes per event. Most countries send the max but some countries just don't have enough talent to send even that many.



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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 8:21:12 PM   
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"Could this lack of athleticism be why the U.S. invented its own games and rarely plays the sports of the rest of the world? "

You make a huge mistake here. Yes, the average person in the US is among the least healthy in the world. It's not just a matter of the toxins and lack of nutrients in the food, it is indeed laziness. People don't know how to eat right, especially if they go by FDA/UDSA recommendations. The recommend enough carbs for three people, unless they're athletes.

But the mistake lies in the fact that athletes are, I guess, not normal people. Athletes have a different diet, which from what I've heard is alot higher in protein than usual. They may also eat alot of carbs, but tend to work them off. Alot of normal people spend alot of time in front of the TV or video games. You can do this and not lose your health if you cut back on the carbs, but if you don't and you live a sedentary lifestyle, you will get fat, lose tone and be at risk for many chronic diseases.

And many are misled. Athletes get good advice on diet and a few other things. When I worked out I didn't crank up the carbs to "bulk up", mainly because I never wanted to look strong, I wanted to BE strong. And strong I was. You can ask around. I worked out for strength, so I always increased the weight much faster than recommended, not the reps. I might not have had the stamina, but in a fight for example, I didn't need it.

Most people who work out do low impact, safe exercises etc. , not me. Free weights, and one time I got hurt doing it. But it develops a form of balance that a machine never could. This is a keep up with the Jones' society so many bought all kinds of machines. They are mostly in the free section on craigslist now, after the novelty wears off. And add to that, a half assed athelete is trying to look strong, cut, defined muscles, they want to look good. They die off quickly enough, because they didn't do it right.

Our true atheletes are very serious, but they weren't born athletes. They were born, like the rest of us to Parents who were likely malnourished, and then malnourished themselves before they found out some things. That is a disadvantage from the gitgo. Other countries treat the health issue differently because in this country, when the peoples' health gets worse, they economy seems to get better. More money flows, that's for sure. When money flows, someone is skimming. They send some of the skimmings to the regulatory agencies, to say the least. Other countries are different.

As such, this is what happened.

Now understand, some people do know, and they try like all hell to be healthy. It is not easy with the food so poor and the medicine even worse. But that's not the half of it, people are lazy. People are prone to indugences, not only in intoxicants, but in junk food. I'd bet we have more fast food places in this country than the entire rest of the world combined. They won't even get up to a stove and cook their own food ! And then as if there is not enough sugar in every last thing on the menu, they need creme filled donuts or icecream for desert. Not to mention a bag of chips on the way home.

Of course these people are not athletes, but what if their kids are ? Their body is half fucked up, so how do you think their kids come out ? THAT is the root of the disadvantage.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 8:33:19 PM   
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The TV is really really bad in Oz (AKA soapzone), and besides that many of their ancestors were criminals sent over in harsh conditions to work off their prison sentences. A hard knock life... Perhaps that contributed to a culture of physicality?

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 8:37:25 PM   
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The TV is really bad ? By Geogre I think you're onto something !

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 8:44:53 PM   
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The TV is really bad ? By Geogre I think you're onto something !

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For once I guess! Four words that will produce plenty of four letter words: "Neighbours", "Home and Away".

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 10:58:49 PM   
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i used to live in papua new gunea an island above oz

so have lots ozzy cobbers (mates)

and its different at least from uk in fact games/pe is mandatory in schools in uk its not in oz

the fact that physical activity is rammed down throats from an early age puts people off

oz also puts more emphasis on enjoyment of sport

competition is much more in oz whereas in uk coming 1st or being better than everyone at something is deemed to be unhealthy

the ozzy peeps have a never say die attitude and never give up

i also think there health policy is stricter not letting in anything that may cause a health risk so they stay healthier and fitter

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 11:15:38 PM   
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oz also puts more emphasis on enjoyment of sport


Should have been where I live in the US when the Steelers won the last Super Bowl or when the Penguins won the Stanley Cup. There is LOTS of enjoyment of sports in the US.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 11:22:53 PM   
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Must be trollin', by that logic, gold medals = fitness and population size should be proportional to number of gold medals, China and India must be incredibly out of shape or unfit. But yea on average americans aren't in shape or eat that well.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/5/2011 11:29:12 PM   
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"the fact that physical activity is rammed down throats from an early age puts people off "

It worked for me. I was a pudgeboy until I got some rock up and decided fuck that, I WANTED to be strong. What's more my methods were so different than anything they would even accept it was a big stretch.

I worked out every other day, when in any exercise I could do three sets of ten, another ten pounds went on. Once I did that, another. And again and again and again. I started at about 80 pounds. Add it up for a year, every week or so. And we did alot of deadlifting as well.

We invented exercises, pull ups from behind the back, in fact alot of things that machines do now for people. But we did them with free weights. Every which way we could fight stress with our bodies we did. The harder it was the better. I got to the point that if you were standing behind me I could knock you out without turning around. And I could almost lift the back of a rear wheel drive car by myself. Not much, but think of the weight involved. I could throw an opponent in a fight. Stronger and tougher, but if he's flying in the air, what can he do ?

This is how we did it. Later, I EARNED my name, Terminator. I only used the other spelling because it wouldn't let me use the original. And if that's not enough, I knew people alot stronger and tougher than I, about three of them proven, another three not proven. They were older so even a contest would not prove anything.

44UK, you remember what I said about my mind going at mach six ? I know mechanics, very well in fact. Well I can instantly figure out, without numbers, your strength level at any given angle of your arm for exmple. I know force vectors, where the fulcrum is and what type of force to expect in what direction.

But that doesn't overcome brute force if one does not know how to use it. For example one asshole tried to twist my arm behind my back. He used both hands on one of my arms. Any motherfucker should have been able to do that but he was an ignorant motherfucker who didn't understand leverage. My one arm beat all the force of his two arms and I put my fist up to his face from what was apparently brute strength. Others in the room told him that he better not fuck with me, but being an idiot, whatever. But it wasn't brute strength. If I can get your arm to a certain point and use leverage you can be ten times stronger than I, and it means nothing.

Your arms and legs are semi-complex levers, understand them and you can do things you never imagied. Couple that with some serious strength and you look like superman. But you're not, and never get on that power trip. We've had to teach a couple of pretty nasty fucking lessons, because they would never understand otherwise.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/6/2011 3:01:28 AM   
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Should have been where I live in the US when the Steelers won the last Super Bowl or when the Penguins won the Stanley Cup. There is LOTS of enjoyment of sports in the US.


Hahaha

Actually I think this is the best explanation yet.

In Australia, sports are something you play with your friends.
In the US, sports are something you watch with your friends.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/6/2011 3:26:51 AM   
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Wasn't Australia originally a country of convicts? Maybe they had to be more athletic to run from the police.

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RE: Why is Australia so Athletic? and the U.S. so bad p... - 7/6/2011 6:13:07 AM   
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Wasn't Australia originally a country of convicts? Maybe they had to be more athletic to run from the police.

pam


sigh, i'm assuming pam is joking a little bit. because i get real tired of people saying australia is the penal colony, like it's the only bloody penal colony around. so was america. why do you think they sent the naughtie's over to aus? because bloody yanks refused to have them anymore. i'd have thought that american's would acknowledge they'd been doing a lot more running around in all the wars they were involved in on home turf. australia, not so much.

wiki, not a uni approved source, however....
The British used North America as a penal colony through a system of indentured servitude. Convicts would be transported by merchants and auctioned off to plantation owners upon arrival in the colonies. It is estimated that some 50,000 British convicts were sent to colonial America, representing perhaps one-quarter of all British emigrants during the 18th century.

When that avenue closed in the 1780s after the American Revolution, Britain began using parts of what is now known as Australia as penal settlements. Some of these included Norfolk Island, Van Diemen's Land (Tasmania) and New South Wales.


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