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MsMacComb -> RE: Adult Entertainment and Myth. (5/18/2006 12:18:38 AM)
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Oh good God here we go again. Gauge, you may get off on debating every point that anyone mentions until our Sun burns out but I don't care to. You see your opinion means nothing to me. The irony here (again) is that you (and a couple others) insult people, make your little jabs and sarcastic replies but then if I reply in kind I get my posts deleted and a nasty message from a biased moderator. Nice little system that you have working in your favor, but then you already know that so you fully take advantage of it as it probably makes you feel manly or important or something.
But with running the risk of having this post deleted as well, I will mention this. Hopefully your over inflated ego which vastly surpasses all other body parts and your intellect will be able to grasp it, but I doubt it.
To me (and that little document known as the Constitution) what we are talking about is free speech. Sure going back through the decades a couple moronic and repressed justices came up with some asinine conclusions that a certain form of erotica was acceptable and other types was "obscene". Which is pure and simple bullshit, which you should be very familiar with.
See to those of us that have a clue, anything done between consenting adults, and the depiction of it in certain quarters, is not a problem, is legal and protected. Obscenity (and the term "porn" which to many has become interchangeable, but I believe stems from a term used to describe prostitutes which I know nothing about) is what occurs without consent. Such as rape, necrophilia, beastiality and pedophilia. Those acts are obscene as they lack consent, are illegal as well they should be.
If you want to get into the semantics over what describes "porn" then by all means have at it. To some the depiction of cherubs and Michelangelo's David could be considered porn, to others it is art. One mans trash is another mans gold. Again, the only thing that should matter is the operative word, consent. So to that end if you want to call my sites "porn" or obscenity by all means have at it. Again, I can think of few people whose opinions mean less to me than yours.
You keep mentioning that I am taking shots at people. Let me clarify for you. FUCK YES I am! Thats the whole goddamn point! Our freedoms and rights are under attack by a small group of hypocrites that hijacked the republican party who are known as neocons and/or Moral Majority. The fact that virtually none of these people have any morals is irrelevant to them, and apparently you. We have an administration that is obsessed with sex. The control of it. Abortion, porn, dildos (for women only), genital piercings (for women only), morning after pill, abstinence, censorship of what adults can read, write, view, purchase and in many cases who they can and can not sleep with, the gay marriage issue, gay adoption etc, etc, etc. I happen to take this attack seriously. I spend half my day fighting other elements in other ways, in person and online via other forums and other mediums. I will not apologise for fighting for the rights that so many others are to fucking lame to do on their own behalf. And here and similiar forums I write certain things that I consider to be of interest or importance. Now the last time I checked nobody has a fucking gun to your head forcing you to read and reply to my messages. You do so of your own volition. If you don't like my messages DONT READ THEM! Pretty simple right? One would assume even for someone like you. You seem to have appointed yourself (as have a few others) as those that are needed to "call others" on details or to engage in arguments with anything and everything. I would point out that no one has asked you to do this, and perhaps you should consider getting a life. I made a similiar reply to one DM a week or so ago but as that message was deleted the point was never made (as I suspect this one shall be as well). As to the rest of your "points", they arent worth replying to. Get a mirror and argue with yourself. Yes I am sure you will feel the need to come back and state that as someone doesnt wish to waste their life arguing with you that indicates that you somehow "won". Whatever, whatever you need to stroke your ego is fine with me. I write, I do, I take action. Beside lipping off what do you do?
Now before a particular mod deletes this I would hope that he or she views what I am replying to and notices that my sarcasm does not surpass that of the person I am replying to.
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ORIGINAL: Gauge
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What? What does food have to do with anything I mentioned?
Nothing. Someone used it as an illustration and it was a good one. Sorry you didn't understand something so clear.
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This site is one of the same ones that John Ashcroft/Alberto Gonzales and the fundies would call "obscene" and close down in a moment if they can. The fact that you act like you don't support "porn" shows you to be a fraud. Or are you now going to tell us you own no porn tapes/DVDs, never visit sites that hanve nudity and buy no mags with nudes?
A fraud? How so? I have not made a claim that I do not look at or own pornography. I have visited sites with nudity and various other things but it has been quite some time since I have done so (several years in fact) one reason is those sites, for the most part, are replete with spyware and other nasty things I do not care to have on my computer.
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Again. What the hell are you talking about? China, dollar stores? Or are you saying that the anti-pornocrites should have no qualms about making millions form porn, while denouncing it every Sunday after buying it on Saturday night?
Another illustration that I used. Sorry that you didn't see how it was relevent. I shall try to refrain from using such complex concepts in the future.
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I don't own a porn site. I own a couple sites that are informational, educational, artistic and are adult entertainment.
Put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. Ooops... sorry, that was an illustration. Let me try something else. You may call it what you will but I do not see the distinction between your site and any other porn site. Was that clear enough?
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Don't be idiotic and start putting words into my mouth that I never said. And you are seemingly not capable of grasping logic so dont try to assign it to someone else in false ways.
I never put words in your mouth. I drew a conclusion based on your statements. And I am very capable of grasping logic. When you start offering some, let me know will you?
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Inflammatory? Oh Good GOD call the police. This whole site is nothing but inflammatory articles and opinions. As are most newspapers, TV shows, News Programs, blogs etc. So is virtually everything in politics. Let me ask you a question. Where is it that people like you and DM come from? You seem to have such an odd and naive vision of the world and reality. Its like you may have read a "how to" book on everything from sex, politics, driving and are under the assumption that means you know what its about. You mostly seem to (as DM does and at least one Femdom, lol) do nothing but argue everything that others say and seem to view that as the highlight of your lives. Why? You may be better served joining a debate team that discusses things in theory rather than here in the real world where its reality.
Nice try. Some here actually think that I have a fairly firm grip on reality. I asked a simple question about why you posted this topic... my mind (as mired in unreality as it is) just cannot come up with a reason except for the fact that you want to take shots at others.
I enjoy a debate. I enjoy intellectual discourse. I also know when I see someone desperately trying to undermine my positions by calling me things like "fraud" and "idiotic."
You are free to do as you wish, my point in calling you on this is to point out that you are not merely a disinterested party making an observation, you are directly involved in the industry no matter how you dress it up and starting this thread was a way to take some shots at people that you deem hypocrites.
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