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High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 1:44:47 PM   
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I have recently started a high protein, low carb eating regiment, and I have been having killer hot flashes.  I have had a few flashes in the past, but they were very controllable. These are different than that.  Has anyone else experience this?  Is it possible that additional protein revs up one's metabolism so much that it causes hot flashes?  Could be just a coincidence, but it has been unpleasant.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 1:54:43 PM   
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I went on a high protein diet some years ago, last thing I ate at night was something high protein with a few drops of lime or lemon juice, for a few nights I had trouble sleeping as I my metabolism was on overdrive even at night, don't think I had hot flashes...

But I'd be quite careful with eating too much protein, can really mess up your health, I hope you're not doing the Atkins diet, it can cause massive harm to your kidneys and liver, plus anybody I know who tried it did smell a bit horrible, they just seemed to have a rather strong and unpleasant body odor, I'm a bit sensitive to that anyway but it always reminded me of being in the zoo near lions...

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:04:57 PM   
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The best highish protein product at night is cottage cheese it also has a natural sophorific. high levels of water need to be drunk to proteck the liver and kidneys, I would suggest supplementation with flax as well, good fats like nut and seed oils actually encourage fatloss with a hp diet. The hot flushes may mean your carb level is simply to low. It could also be a thyroid issue, the thyroid gland can also be affected by diet change. Try and get the majority of calories at breakfast and if you work out ensure you have, carbs, proteins and good fats directly after a workout, this is best as a shake. Paul Chek is a good guy to read up from.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:09:34 PM   
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PhilSlave's got good info there. I guess you could say I've been on a high protein since I started weight training eight years ago. I've never had hot flashes, however I haven't restricted any other areas of my diet in the process.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:12:26 PM   
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PhilSlave's got good info there. I guess you could say I've been on a high protein since I started weight training eight years ago. I've never had hot flashes, however I haven't restricted any other areas of my diet in the process.


That's a bit different than the Atkins diet though, which I think the OP is talking about (I could be wrong there though), but yes when I'm training for something I also up my intake of protein, but the OP said she's on a low carb, high protein diet, which may play havoc with her health.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:15:54 PM   
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PhilSlave's got good info there. I guess you could say I've been on a high protein since I started weight training eight years ago. I've never had hot flashes, however I haven't restricted any other areas of my diet in the process.


Yeah, you look like you train mate, I also train 3 times a week, I originally got into it for Rugby, stopped playing but kept training. I tend to use Poloquin and Cheks stuff I did my Chek level 2 personal trainer course a couple of summers ago. I believe strongly in metabolic typing for diet, have you ever tried it?

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:15:54 PM   
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Very true. The atkins diet is retarded.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:17:12 PM   
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Very true. The atkins diet is retarded.


Agreed.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:19:49 PM   
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PhilSlave's got good info there. I guess you could say I've been on a high protein since I started weight training eight years ago. I've never had hot flashes, however I haven't restricted any other areas of my diet in the process.


Yeah, you look like you train mate, I also train 3 times a week, I originally got into it for Rugby, stopped playing but kept training. I tend to use Poloquin and Cheks stuff I did my Chek level 2 personal trainer course a couple of summers ago. I believe strongly in metabolic typing for diet, have you ever tried it?



I know a lot about food, training, but actually very little about diets. Anabolic diet, velocity diet...not a clue.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:24:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

PhilSlave's got good info there. I guess you could say I've been on a high protein since I started weight training eight years ago. I've never had hot flashes, however I haven't restricted any other areas of my diet in the process.


Yeah, you look like you train mate, I also train 3 times a week, I originally got into it for Rugby, stopped playing but kept training. I tend to use Poloquin and Cheks stuff I did my Chek level 2 personal trainer course a couple of summers ago. I believe strongly in metabolic typing for diet, have you ever tried it?



I know a lot about food, training, but actually very little about diets. Anabolic diet, velocity diet...not a clue.


Seriously read up on Charles Poloquin's stuff, what that guy doesn't know about diet isn't worth knowing. I strongly believe everyone is different but some basic rules apply. It's why I like Paul Chek's metabolic typing stuff, not his idea originally but he's refined it. It suits body type, age and training goals. Food as you know is the single most anabolic thing.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:30:11 PM   
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I have recently started a high protein, low carb eating regiment, and I have been having killer hot flashes.


I'm going to bet the protein is not organic and you are therefore getting too much estrogen. Let me know and I will provide links to support my theory.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:31:58 PM   
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I have recently started a high protein, low carb eating regiment, and I have been having killer hot flashes.


I'm going to bet the protein is not organic and you are therefore getting too much estrogen. Let me know and I will provide links to support my theory.


I know Soy Protein has affects on Oestrogen. Is that what you mean?

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:32:12 PM   
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I've heard the name, and I've seen his articles at a few websites. Perhaps I'll pay closer attention.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:34:31 PM   
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I've heard the name, and I've seen his articles at a few websites. Perhaps I'll pay closer attention.


I blew a knee out badly and needed two ops, I put on shedloads of weight, I was really worried I was going to get very fat. I got metabolic typed dropped the weight made a full recovery and actually got stronger and more cut than prior to my knee injury.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:51:03 PM   
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What's in the Beef?

In 2005, 32.5 million cattle were slaughtered to provide beef for US consumers .i Scientists believe about two-thirds of American cattle raised in for slaughter today are injected with hormones to make them grow fasterii and America’s dairy cows are given a genetically-engineered hormone called rBGH to increase milk production. These measures mean higher profits for the beef and dairy industries, but what does it mean for consumers? Although the USDA and FDA claim these hormones are safe, there is growing concern that hormone residues in meat and milk might be harmful to human health and the environment.

What's in the Beef?

According to the European Union’s Scientific Committee on Veterinary Measures Relating to Public Health, the use of six natural and artificial growth hormones in beef production poses a potential risk to human health.iii These six hormones include three which are naturally occurring—Oestradiol, Progesterone and Testosterone—and three which are synthetic—Zeranol, Trenbolone, and Melengestrol.

The Committee also questioned whether hormone residues in the meat of "growth enhanced" animals and can disrupt human hormone balance, causing developmental problems, interfering with the reproductive system, and even leading to the development of breast, prostate or colon cancer.iv

None of Us Should Eat Extra Estrogen

When U.S. and Canadian beef cattle go to feedlots, hormone pellets are implanted under the ear skin, a process that is repeated at the midpoint of their 100-day fattening period. The hormones increase the weight of the cattle, adding to profits by about $80 per animal.

The most common hormone in current use is estradiol, a potent cancer-causing and gene-damaging estrogen. The FDA maintains that residues of estradiol and other hormones in meat are within "normal" levels, and has waived any requirements for monitoring and chemical testing.

...These hormones are linked ever more closely to the escalating incidence of reproductive cancers in the U.S. since 1950-55% for breast cancer, 120% for testicular cancer and 190% for prostate cancer. The endocrine-disruptive effects of estrogenic pesticides and other industrial food contaminants known as xenoestrogens are now under intensive investigation by federal regulatory and health agencies. But the contamination of meat with residues of the far-more-potent estradiol remains ignored.

...The world trade judges ought to listen to one of the top FDA officials involved in meat safety, David Livingston. In Orville Schell's 1984 meat industry expose, "Modern Meat," Livingston is quoted as saying, "Well, if you're going to have enough inexpensive meat for everyone, you're going to have to use some of these drugs. But personally, I'd rather eat meat that was raised without them." In other words, what's good enough for the rest of us is not something he wants to eat.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:54:45 PM   
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I have recently started a high protein, low carb eating regiment, and I have been having killer hot flashes.  I have had a few flashes in the past, but they were very controllable. These are different than that.  Has anyone else experience this?  Is it possible that additional protein revs up one's metabolism so much that it causes hot flashes?  Could be just a coincidence, but it has been unpleasant.


Hard to say... how old are you?

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 2:55:55 PM   
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What's in the Beef?

In 2005, 32.5 million cattle were slaughtered to provide beef for US consumers .i Scientists believe about two-thirds of American cattle raised in for slaughter today are injected with hormones to make them grow fasterii and America’s dairy cows are given a genetically-engineered hormone called rBGH to increase milk production. These measures mean higher profits for the beef and dairy industries, but what does it mean for consumers? Although the USDA and FDA claim these hormones are safe, there is growing concern that hormone residues in meat and milk might be harmful to human health and the environment.

What's in the Beef?

According to the European Union’s Scientific Committee on Veterinary Measures Relating to Public Health, the use of six natural and artificial growth hormones in beef production poses a potential risk to human health.iii These six hormones include three which are naturally occurring—Oestradiol, Progesterone and Testosterone—and three which are synthetic—Zeranol, Trenbolone, and Melengestrol.

The Committee also questioned whether hormone residues in the meat of "growth enhanced" animals and can disrupt human hormone balance, causing developmental problems, interfering with the reproductive system, and even leading to the development of breast, prostate or colon cancer.iv

None of Us Should Eat Extra Estrogen

When U.S. and Canadian beef cattle go to feedlots, hormone pellets are implanted under the ear skin, a process that is repeated at the midpoint of their 100-day fattening period. The hormones increase the weight of the cattle, adding to profits by about $80 per animal.

The most common hormone in current use is estradiol, a potent cancer-causing and gene-damaging estrogen. The FDA maintains that residues of estradiol and other hormones in meat are within "normal" levels, and has waived any requirements for monitoring and chemical testing.

...These hormones are linked ever more closely to the escalating incidence of reproductive cancers in the U.S. since 1950-55% for breast cancer, 120% for testicular cancer and 190% for prostate cancer. The endocrine-disruptive effects of estrogenic pesticides and other industrial food contaminants known as xenoestrogens are now under intensive investigation by federal regulatory and health agencies. But the contamination of meat with residues of the far-more-potent estradiol remains ignored.

...The world trade judges ought to listen to one of the top FDA officials involved in meat safety, David Livingston. In Orville Schell's 1984 meat industry expose, "Modern Meat," Livingston is quoted as saying, "Well, if you're going to have enough inexpensive meat for everyone, you're going to have to use some of these drugs. But personally, I'd rather eat meat that was raised without them." In other words, what's good enough for the rest of us is not something he wants to eat.


Yeah Xenobiotic Oestrogens are everywhere as well, Methyl Testosterone derivatives as you say can be an issue.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 3:02:56 PM   
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Just to clarify, I am NOT doing Atkins.  I have just restricted my carbs to 100 grams a day.  Since I was a heavy carb eater, this has significantly increased the amount of protein and fats I eat to reach my caloric goal.  In general, I think it is working for me, but I really don't like the hot flashes.  Thanks for the helpful suggestions, though, this has been useful.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 3:04:22 PM   
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Tazzy, I am 52, so hot flashes aren't entirely unexpected.  In fact, I have been experiencing them to various degrees for several years now.  It is just that the intensity and length have increased a lot since I started eating more protein.

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RE: High protein diets and hot flashes - 7/6/2011 3:07:43 PM   
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Try switching to artificial hormone-free beef and dairy for a week and see what happens.

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