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Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 10:19:21 PM   
Slipstreme


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Status: offline 		I know it is probably an over done thread, and I know LA will be here with the threads. However, I don't know how to search for it.

The thread about breast flogging had me thinking about my trip up North where I will finally get a chance to be the sadist I claim to be. I have a very good friend up there who I know can take the harder blows and deep penetrating fear that I dream of putting in a willing partner and I want to be able to do this to her.

However I'm new to this, and the forms of play I have bottomed to or Topped with I know I am not close to perfect at. I want to hear her scream, see her squirm and eventually get her to use her safeword. However, I love her too much to want to cause her any harm save for the bruises, cuts and scratches, perhaps maybe a couple that may scar, that we masochists love. I want to leave my mark, but I don't want to cause any real damage, and I don't trust myself with advanced play. I don't want to fail in her expectations either. We are both expecting it to be a wild ride..

So basically to make the unnecessarily long story shot, what can I do to her to cause a boatload of pain without the risk of damaging her?

And for advanced play, although I probably won't have the experience before my trip, what information is out there can you suggest? I'm  hoping to make some local events some time this year if I can get out of working on weekends. 

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 10:28:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest, you can cause quite a bit of pain with your hand on her bottom and risk very little in the way of harming her. Do you know that even this is a calculated risk? You can cause a submissive to have a hematoma, which can lead to some complications. I think that people should be aware that all play can have risks... calculate them...smiles, plan for them.... basically know them. It sounds to me as though you care a great deal about your sub to be asking these questions and to be planning what to do for your skill level.

As far as causing sensations that will make her outta her mind,  research the wurtenburg wheel.... I have heard this is quite a toy for sensation play, and can be quite maddening for a sub. It does not rely on pain, but on stimulation of the nerves under the skin.  Good Luck!

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 10:42:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes she means a lot to me, as does her Master (who I know probably won't be able to take much pain so I am less worried about hurting him). These are the people I may end up part of and Master of their poly group, as they and the third who I don't know as well defer to me. So the responsibility I face is great for I love them all.  

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 11:09:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Buggy whips are great for causing pain. You don't need the expertise you need in using the bullwhip, they leave beautiful marks, easy to handle and easy to control. If you slap the whip closest to the handle about a 1/3 of the way up, ::and you can experiment to get different velocities going to the cracker:: against your palm so that the end flicks out quickly and snaps against the flesh, it can be quite painful and causes a different sort of pain than just flicking the wrist. Think physics. You use less arc with more acceleration. Less work for you as well.

If you really want to make her safeword, do the buggy whipping while playing a William Hung CD. ;)

That'll make anyone safeword.

I'm an advocate of zippers as well, though, in truth, those don't hurt that much. Knocking clothespins off with the buggy whip is also a lot of fun.

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 11:17:36 PM   
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That'll make anyone safeword.



Agreed.

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 11:39:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Celeste,
 
That is so wrong on so many levels. roflmao. Although you could use barney tapes instead  oooo or teletubbies.
 
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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 11:40:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reach out and grab her labia and dig your fingernails in. The vagina is built to take a lot of abuse and I haven't killed anyone yet with that trick nor has anyone complained that it wasn't painful.  Another one is taking a rubber band and hold it against the skin, pull and release, repeat till done.  Clothespins on the tongue and lips can be entertaining and have rarely killed anyone.


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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/16/2006 11:58:33 PM   
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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 12:47:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		A cane to the bottom of the feet (repeatedly with little break) can cause an interesting series of sensation in a masochist (and by definition, the Sadist).
Enjoy! LdyS

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 4:41:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Try clove oil on a butt plug or on her clit and nipples, very intense. You can also purchase a short, 4 inch or less stiff whip usually called a penis whip, great for breast play yet very easy to control.

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 4:57:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

I'm an advocate of zippers as well, though, in truth, those don't hurt that much. Knocking clothespins off with the buggy whip is also a lot of fun.


You are the only other person I have heard say that about zippers.  I love them and many think I am nuts.  For me clothespins don't hurt and zippers justs cause this really incredible sensation.  He has to work to make them hurt.  I will have to see if he wants to take up a whip.  That sounds like fun.

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:28:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Don't believe anyone who says zippers dont hurt *grin*...I nearly pass out ..I cant even imagine them not hurting...but  being pinched really hurts me..so it must be an individual sensation thing.

Also another really strong sensation for me is being caned on the calves.

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:30:25 AM   
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what can I do to her to cause a boatload of pain without the risk of damaging her?


Have her kneel (straight up, not resting on her heels) on a hard surface floor with a thick layer of uncooked rice or as course a substance as uncooked split peas.

You go on to mention advanced forms of play but openly admit to being a novice... my next suggestion about not damaging her would be for you to NOT engage in any form of advanced play... key word ADVANCED... there is a distinct difference between advanced & novice & the only way to move from one to the other is by experience.

If you dabble around in the area of advanced practices you will most likely harm someone.



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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:35:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Don't believe anyone who says zippers dont hurt *grin*...I nearly pass out ..I cant even imagine them not hurting

Different clothespins create different sensations, the amount of pain will definitely increase or decrease based on the actually pinch point created.

Let them try using those little mini pins made of wood & then come & tell us they don't hurt. Those little bastards are capable of ripping off a minute amount of flesh if they get a good bite.



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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:37:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

quote:

what can I do to her to cause a boatload of pain without the risk of damaging her?


Have her kneel (straight up, not resting on her heels) on a hard surface floor with a thick layer of uncooked rice or as course a substance as uncooked split peas.

You go on to mention advanced forms of play but openly admit to being a novice... my next suggestion about not damaging her would be for you to NOT engage in any form of advanced play... key word ADVANCED... there is a distinct difference between advanced & novice & the only way to move from one to the other is by experience.

If you dabble around in the area of advanced practices you will most likely harm someone.




noooooo not the split peas!! brings tears to my eyes,, and if you make her  hold her ankles off the ground and then all her  weight is on her kneecaps then whoa.......

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:38:40 AM   
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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:44:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Plastic clothespins nicely placed on the labia and down to the anus ,slowly one by one and allowed to remain as you move to the breasts and nipples ( they have non slip grids on them)--then removal can be a slow release or a quick one---its like a million needles---gets their attention, keeps it, but no damage and no residuals.
 
 
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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 5:49:25 AM   
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If someone was to go about pinching my labias I'd thrust my heel straight to the middle of their forehead. (or a lower region if the angle was right)



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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 6:07:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hiya slipstreme, good to see you back on the boards.

As you have said, you are still new to this and the part of your post that caught my eye was that you wish to hear her safeword. Now I don't believe that having the safeword be the goal of a scene is ever a good idea, but seeing as you are still new I believe this is an even stronger reason to not be playing at that level.

We had quite a good discussion about the pros and cons of having the safeword be the goal of a scene on a thread I started a while back. You might find some useful information on it. Here it is....

http://www.collarchat.com/m_137937/mpage_1/key_safeword/tm.htm

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RE: Pain Techniques that don't cause much damage - 5/17/2006 6:10:21 AM   
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If you really want to make her safeword, do the buggy whipping while playing a William Hung CD. ;)

That'll make anyone safeword.


Good suggestion, but wouldn't that leave permanent scars? *shudder*

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