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Should cats be declawed?


Yes
  6% (4)
No
  86% (53)
Unsure
  6% (4)


Total Votes : 61
(last vote on : 7/21/2011 9:12:20 AM)
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zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 10:46:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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DESTROY THE PUSSY MUTILATOR!!!!


Hey, some people like that...not me but I'm sure there are those who do! ~grins~


huh...*thinks*

So to be kinkily correct...

DESTROY THE NON-FEMALE ORGAN AFFILIATED PUSSY MUTILATOR !!

Bettah?



A little long but yeah bettah.




angelikaJ -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 10:47:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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ORIGINAL: wilddreams17

since cats' claws are not dead matter like fingernails but sensitive like fingertips this is amputation


especially since they take the part of the joint connected to the claw!



Dont be such a tight wad.  Get the cat to the vet TODAY.



This makes no sense, PA.

One can safely clip a cats nails.
I have to in my older kitty or his nails could grow into his paws. You just have to look carefully avoid the quick.

To declaw a cat it would be the equivalent of my litterally chopping off the ends of your fingertips to your first finger joint.

My kitties love those corregated cardboard scratching posts that come with catnip. They run about $5-$8 .




DesFIP -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 4:42:03 PM)

Do they really work? I always thought that they couldn't, considering how cheap they are. I'm slowly updating my dad's apartment but am loath to do anything major since his cat shreds anything she can reach.




Kaliko -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 10:07:07 PM)

I had it done when I was young and ignorant about it. (And when my apartment complex demanded it.) I would never do it again.

I do feel that, given the choice between death (aka not being adopted and so put to sleep) and being declawed, a thinking being would choose being declawed. But that doesn't make it right. Or justified.

That being said, my cats are still declawed cats. When I adopt from the SPCA, I look specifically for declawed cats. My feeling is that a declawed cat needs a home just as much as a clawed cat. I have always found declawed cats at the SPCA - there are always a few (at the one by me, anyway).





pogo4pres -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 10:45:51 PM)

FR


My first cat was de-clawed  when we adopted her, our second not until like 30 year later wasn't, the second though "trained" our puppy (recently passed away at 10 1/2 years) by swiping his ears with her claws, laid both ears open and drew blood.  Eventually when he became a 90 lb Akita, he would chase the cat through the condo and at the top of the stairs he'd literally have his jaws around her hind quarters, she'd turn and hiss and pop out those claws, and he'd back off in an instant.  You had to see that action.


Animalistically,
Some Knucklehead in NJ




bamabbwsub -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/8/2011 11:09:53 PM)

~FR~

I'm with most posters here -- I think it's a horrible thing to do to a cat. I have multiple cats in my house, and although they occasionally scratch on the carpet or on the furniture, I've had my couch and chairs for nearly 9 years, and you can't tell that I have cats based on the condition of my furniture corners. I supply them with all types of scratching posts, both cardboard and sisal (rope). You shouldn't use carpet cat scratching posts because then cats associate carpet as being okay to scratch on.

Although I don't have any evidence to cite, I have heard that many de-clawed cats often eventually have litterbox issues. The reason behind this is supposedly because they experience post-operative pain when the litter gets in their wounds. They then associate litterboxes with pain, and therefore avoid it.






0ldhen -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 6:55:02 AM)



They cut off the cats fingertips to declaw them, that is wrong on soooo many levels!!!!




0ldhen -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 6:57:31 AM)

Oh yes, all my kittys love those cardboard scratching posts. Even better is one called Emerycat. It trims their claws naturally.

Heres a link;

https://www.emerycat.com/?tag=im|sm|go|tm&a_aid=011&a_bid=9817dd55




GreedyTop -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:13:38 AM)

ever since my Arrow got ratpacked by dogs (he was declawed..hey I was 10yrs old or so, I didnt have a say) once we moved to a place where he could go outside, NONE of my kittehs have been declawed.

there is no way to know if Arrow would have survived if he had had claws, but he sure as shit had no way to protect himself.

mu kids now get chips religiously, and are forbidden from going outside.

BUT. shit happens.. all it takes is a moment of inattention, and a cats natural curiosity (glares at Cashie) might have them out the door before you are even aware...

I want my kids able to protect themselves.

FUCK DECLAWING!!!

I think those that TAKE their cats in for that mutiliation should have their finger joints ALSO mutiliated in the same manner....




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:14:10 AM)

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You shouldn't use carpet cat scratching posts because then cats associate carpet as being okay to scratch on.


The rug my cat uses is the only one I have so it's all good.




BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:27:59 AM)

NO!!!!!! Cats are the only creatures that are the Masters of their domain,they submit and love you on their terms and theirs only, so declaring isn't for my pack...My dogs even the hunting hounds knows their cats and don't bother them but you let a strange on enter their world thens its over very quickly..My Willow is the queen of this house no matter what the women says she rules smile..B




tj444 -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:35:03 AM)

(sigh) Imo, unless extremely unusual circumstances then absolutely NO.

However, I did have to do that to TC when he was alive. The only reason I had to have all 4 feet done was he had this really weird medical condition, all of his toes were always getting infected. The poor guy couldnt even walk cuz his toes were that bad. We took him to the vet and tried different things but to no avail and declawing was the last resort. After getting declawed his toes stopped getting infected and he could walk again and he was happy.. That is the only situation where I would say it was needed. My cat Squeek was not declawed (no reason to).




GreedyTop -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:39:24 AM)

see, tj.. MEDICAL reasons are entirely different thing..




tj444 -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:46:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

see, tj.. MEDICAL reasons are entirely different thing..

I know, I still hated to do it. I'm glad it worked tho and he could walk and play again after that.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 7:53:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tj444

(sigh) Imo, unless extremely unusual circumstances then absolutely NO.

However, I did have to do that to TC when he was alive. The only reason I had to have all 4 feet done was he had this really weird medical condition, all of his toes were always getting infected. The poor guy couldnt even walk cuz his toes were that bad. We took him to the vet and tried different things but to no avail and declawing was the last resort. After getting declawed his toes stopped getting infected and he could walk again and he was happy.. That is the only situation where I would say it was needed. My cat Squeek was not declawed (no reason to).


See, I call this taking awesome care of your cat and I have no issue with it.




farglebargle -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 8:05:23 AM)

They're livestock. Unless we've become Commies or something, in a FREE COUNTRY, you do whatever you want to with your own property....




GreedyTop -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 8:05:42 AM)

*agrees with Zephy*
it is one thing to do it for med reasons... it is entirely a DIFFERENT thing to do it because it is CONVENIENT.




GreedyTop -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 8:11:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

They're livestock. Unless we've become Commies or something, in a FREE COUNTRY, you do whatever you want to with your own property....


People who keep animals as working animals generally will not mutiliate them, as it interferes with the ability to DO THE WORK they expect the animal to do.

People who have COMPANION animals are, indeed, free to declaw, crop, etc as they feel fit to do. 

what most of us are saying is that if a companion animal is deprived of it's natural defense systems, then it is cruel to that animal

(imagine taking a human child out to the curb and saying "go play!!" without any of the usual cautions.. "check both ways before you cross the street")




pahunkboy -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 8:29:39 AM)

Ut oh.   I should have specified,  FRONT PAWS.


My cat has her back paws nails.  




GreedyTop -> RE: Should cats be declawed? (7/9/2011 8:33:57 AM)

what difference does that make? 

unless it is for medical reasons, as tj said.. it is STILL mutilation.

now, if you acquire the cat AFTER this cruelty has been done, it's one thing..   but to knowingly decide to chop off it's 'fingers' once you home the cat.. then thats another...




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