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Termyn8or -> Rachael Corrie development (7/11/2011 12:17:10 PM)

For those who are unaware, eight years ago she died in Gaza. A simple Google search will gain plenty of information on the matter. Strangely this recieved almost no coverage in the US. Actually where I found out is not mainstream media by any stretch of the imagination, even though they have subscibers worldwide. Here, I'll save you a few keystrokes :

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=rachel+corrie&aq=1s&aqi=g-s2g1g-s4g3&aql=&oq=rachael+co

Now something recent :

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/family-of-rachel-corrie-claim-israel-withheld-information-on-her-death-1.372692

"Israel has conducted its own military investigation, which concluded that the driver didn’t see her, making her death an accident. The Corries have rejected this and have since launched a civil case against Israel asking the Israel Defense Ministry for unspecified compensation for Rachel’s death.

Israel maintains its position that Rachel, who attempted to act as a human shield, is liable for her death."

At first one might question which is it, but that will be quickly dissmissed. It's simple, bulldozer drivers can't see where they are going. Is that right ? When a building is demolished aren't there some people around watching ? I mean a [de]construction crew of sorts. If the operator of the machine has a blind spot, others know and if they see someone standing there they would shout "Get out of the way". If the person did not move, a nice burly worker would then grab the person physically and remove them from harm's way.

Wouldm't ya think ? Let's examine the possibilities then. Nobody did that obviously, why ? Was the machine moving too fast ? Did everyone look the other way ? Not according to eyewitnesses.

So if those eyewitnesses were also activists, figuring that noone would just run her over, obviously they miscalculated. I doubt there were Palestinians on the wrecking crew. Wouldn't you think the Israeli workers would do the same so as not to cause an international incident ?

I guess some people just aren't afraid of international incidents.

I would be very interested in hearing from anyone who can somehow justify this death after having the facts. As I said, Google has plenty on it. Strangely nothing from the US media.

Is this post about her, or the state of affairs concerning our supposed news sources ? You be the judge. The content of your response is at your fingertips.

T^T




LVnewDom -> RE: Rachael Corrie development (7/11/2011 1:08:21 PM)

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Aneirin -> RE: Rachael Corrie development (7/11/2011 2:51:39 PM)

Now I have operated various construction site and quarry machinery and I find it very difficult to believe a machine operator was not aware of what there was in front of them and further to that it is the normal course of action for a machine operator that cannot see what they are doing to stop, dismount from the driving position and view the terrain on foot prior to driving over what could be unknown hazards to both machine and operator.

Now I do understand from experience there is a triangle of terrain obscurred from a dozer's operating position roughly if the blade is down, extending from the end of the motor hood to a point on the ground some distance in front of the machine that angle and unseen distance dependant on the height of view of the machine operator, but if the blade is up then the operator can see the back of the blade and that is it, I question how anyone can drive blindly like this unaided by external observers to direct the machine operator where thay cannot see.

Now given the restricted view from such a machine, anyone that walks in front of the moving machine in that unseen triangle of terrain, runs the risk of being run over, not the operators fault, because they can't see, but if a person was outside of that unseen angle of terrain, the question has to be asked why the machine operator did not stop, as who would willingly drive a machine at a human being, none but the insane I would hope.

But it is also in my experience, that of construction sites and quarries that when a dozer is in close proximity to obstacles, there is always observers there to advise the operator and keep anyone who may be around clear of the machine if it is to do it's work effectively and in good time.

If such a thing happened in most parts of the West, a dozer running over a person, a complete and thorough investigation would be conducted and balls roasted where they are ripe to roast, as it is with accidents on construction sites, there is always someone at error, always human error somewhere that lead to the incident.

But the Rachel Corrie incident, her as an activist standing up for what she believed in, an American, if the dozer crew had known this, would they have exercised more care, and the incident, an American being killed whist trying to aid Israel's enemy, I bet that is an embarrassment to the US authorities. Perhaps the question could be asked, what is more important, the health and welfare of a country's citizen or the special ties with the country the American citizen is protesting about ?




tweakabelle -> RE: Rachael Corrie development (7/11/2011 6:04:25 PM)

A lot more information pertaining to the incident is available at the Rachel Corrie website




juliaoceania -> RE: Rachael Corrie development (7/12/2011 12:41:26 PM)

It is not surprising that Rachel Corrie's family was denied justice, what is sad is that more Americans do not care that one of our own was murdered on a humanitarian mission




Termyn8or -> RE: Rachael Corrie development (7/12/2011 8:40:42 PM)

Many do not know. The others,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

T^T




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