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fadedshadow -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 8:00:26 AM)
oh god i just got a mental image of transformers engaging in bdsm

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 8:09:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I have seen the attitude that if you enjoy pain you are not a sub, because if you do your just a pain slut[8\|] yeah, i've seen that, too. it's like they must be mutually exclusive states of being -- either you're a painslut who is only doing it because you're getting off, or you're a sub who does it in the "purest sense" for the D's enjoyment. and of course, the assumption that someone who says "i like pain" instantly transforms it into pleasure and rainbows -- that's now how it works for me. if it doesn't actually hurt me, then it isn't quite the same.

coookie -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 8:13:17 AM)
Right so they are saying do the sexual urges/fantasies that you have cause you emotional distress? Do you have difficulties coping with other people because of these fantasies/ urges? Do you do this with people who do not consent? IF you said yes to any of these questions you are having issues. And i think that it would be more difficult to be a sadist to someone who doesn't consent. Don't get me wrong if i were to be a sadist i wouldn't want to be one to a masochist but i would stil want one to consent because otherwise they would always be fighting back. Disliking and non-consenting are very different.

LadyPact -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 1:14:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DecadentDesire I was reading a thread where the phrase "true submissive" got thrown around and I realized I have never once heard anything about a "true sadist" or a "true masochist". The same goes for "true top" or "true bottom". Why is this? Why do people only seem to create and project ideals of "trueness" onto submissives and slaves, masters and dominants? It seems a bit unfair. S/M is just as much a valid part of the "lifestyle" as D/S. Why should it's labels be spared the joy and splendor of "truedom"? Maybe I just haven't been paying attention and I have missed all the "true sadist" and "true bottom" threads. If that's the case and you have a definition for "true sadist/masochist/top/bottom", I would love to hear it. But please...don't use my thread as a jumping off point to lecture on the rare and exotic "true submissive" and "true dominant" you've been hunting for. The D/S side of thing has 24334324 threads on that subject. Let's let the S/M side of things have the spotlight for a little while. (Non-serious posts are great, too, because this is only a half-serious thread) It happens. The thing is that it just doesn't happen on this venue as much. Where you are more likely to encounter it would be more in public play venues. Yes, people absolutely can tell if somebody doesn't know how to swing a flogger or the supposed pain slut can't take any more than a light spanking. It's been a really long time since anybody has tried to pull the 'you're not a real sadist' card on Me. I was topping somebody for their first ever scene back when I lived in GA. Somebody walked up to MP (who happened to be watching while I was playing) to ask why I was going so light on the bottom that I was playing with. He explained to the person who asked that it was our first time playing. So, basically, because I wasn't beating the hell out of somebody, our first time playing, and the bottom's first time playing at all, I wasn't a "real" sadist. Guess how much the opinion mattered to Me? [8\|]

Missokyst -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 3:34:13 PM)
I am a masochist. I don't ever refer to myself as a "true" masochist because the word true annoys me, as if it is somehow greater than any other definition. I am however, a real masochist. That is, one that can derive pleasure, satisfaction or relief from pain, whether it is consentual, non consentual, deliberate or accidental. I think the word true is a hot button because so many who insist their way is THE way use it to define what they believe and disregard all others.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Twuedom (7/14/2011 5:47:31 PM)
quote: I realized I have never once heard anything about a "true sadist" or a "true masochist". holy moses' blistered feet man, isn't it fucking obvious? look, you tell a dom he isn't true and what happens? fuck all really, he might get mad and tell you to go fuck yourself. but if you tell a sadist they aren't a true sadist, well, sugar plum, then you're in for a world of fucking pain!! i mean we're fucking sick bastards, we hurt people for the fun of it! think it through

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