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This Explains it..... - 5/17/2006 4:26:19 PM   
MasterRenegade77


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This Explains it.....



A lady wrote the best letter I have seen in the Editorials in ages!
It
explains things better than all the stuff you hear on TV.

"Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country
protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of
illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the U.S. might
protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this
country
and, once here, to stay indefinitely. Let me see if I correctly
understand the thinking behind these protests.

Let's say I break into your house. Let's say that when you discover
me
in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, "I've made all the
beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors;
I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and
honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters, not only must you let me stay, you must add
me to your family's insurance plan and provide other benefits to me and
to my family (my husband will do your yard work because he too is
hard-working and honest, except for that breaking in part).

If you try
to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will
picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my right to be there.
It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and
I'm just trying to better myself. I'm hard-working and honest ... um,
except for ... well, you know.

And what a deal it is for me!! I live in your house, contributing
only
a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about
it without being accused of selfishness, prejudice and being
anti-housebreaker.

Did I miss anything? Does this sound reasonable to you? If it
does,
grab a sign and go picket something. If this sounds insane to you,
call
your senators and enlighten them because they are stumbling in the
darkness right now and really need your help."
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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/17/2006 4:43:47 PM   
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I disagree.  I see your point; I don't think the analogy's correct.  There's a big difference between immigrating without papers and breaking and entering.  Besides, who breaks into someone's house to clean?  Clean out the cash box maybe.

With that said, all of you can feel free to break into my house to clean and cook, as long as you don't take anything.  Have fun!

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/17/2006 5:14:28 PM   
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Mexican Standoff

I don't know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic
people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations
mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don't blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States
of America, as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you
do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I
don't care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start
trying to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don't need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don't have anything against
Mexicans!  I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes
into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don't believe it try
coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how
far you get.

What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it's tantamount to saying,
I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and
there's nothing you can do about it.

It's an in-your-face action and speaking just for me I don't like it one
little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington
bigger than English peas it wouldn't be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lilly livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry
excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water
out of the Potomac again?

And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden
and watered down that it won't mean anything anyway. Besides, what good is
an other law going to do when you won't enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls guys? I thought you folks were the
quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain't paying any attention to
the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans
want something done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger
everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy.
Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can't
happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of
jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and
refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the
kind of country your children and grandchildren will inherit.

But I guess that doesn't matter as long as you get re-elected.  Shame on you

One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to
say anything derogatory about any group of people (except Christians) you
are going to be screamed at by the media and called a racist, a bigot and
anything else they can think of to call you.

Well I've been pounded by the media before and I'm still rockin' and rollin'
and when it comes to speaking the truth I fear not. And the truth is that
the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians are just about to sell out the
United States of America because they don't have the intestinal fortitude to
stand up to the face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people to have
12 million illegals in this country and turn around and say, Oh it's ok, ya
ll can stay here if you'll just allow  us to slap your wrist.

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying Well, what's
wrong with that?

I'll tell you what's wrong with it. These people could be from Mars as far
as we know. We don't know who they are, where they are or what they're up to
and the way the Congress is going we're not going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize corporate
agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as well?

If these people were from Haiti would we be so fast to turn a blind eye to
them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan? I think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who have
crossed the border just to try to better their life. They don't show you
pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13, the violent gang who came
across the same way the decent folks did. They don't tell you about the
living conditions of the Mexican illegals some fat cat hired to pick his
crop.

I want to make two predictions. No. 1: This situation is going to grow and
fester until it erupts in violence on our streets while the wimps in
Washington drag their toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of
political hay they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of weapon of
mass destruction and set it off in a major American city after which there
will be a backlash such as this country has never experienced and the
Capitol building in Washington will probably tilt as Congressmen and
Senators rush to the other side of the issue.

I don't know about you but I would love to see just one major politician
stand up and say, I don't care who I make mad  and I don't care how many
votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and I'm going to lead the fight
to get it straightened out.

I don't blame anybody for wanting to come to America, but if you don't
respect our immigration laws why should you respect any others.

And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and stripes. Please
get that other one out of my face.

Pray for our troops

What do you think?

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels

April 10, 2006

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 4:14:20 AM   
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quote:

There's a big difference between immigrating without papers and breaking and entering.


And what would that difference be? When I invite someone to my house they generally use the door to come in... In fact, I have never had an invited guest come through a window in the middle of the night. There are doors to the U.S.... and there are windows that some slip through in the middle of the night. I think it's a perfect anology.
 
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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 4:46:54 AM   
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People have been migrating to find a better life since Adam and Eve, there is really nothing new about it. It is how America was formed. Yes, it's illegal but what the founding fathers did was illegal but I don't hear people complaining about that. It all depends if the illegality works in your favour or not as to ones perception. Europeans introduced the concept of owning land to north America, to the indigenous population there was nothing more warped than that and what is going on in the first world now is nowhere near as warped. People seeking out a better life and working hard to attain that better life are not dangerous. They are not murdering and burning down the homes of the local population.

It is a problem that needs to be dealt with but casting these poor people in search of something better as monsters and criminals is not the way to deal with it. The west has carried on exploiting the third world for its own ends, instead of allowing free and fair trade that will enable poorer countries to develop and so make them more attractive for people to stay where they are. We in the west are happy to consume the world's resources and tell the people in the third world to basically 'fuck off', they are unwanted 'low life'.

The west has consistantly refused to accept there is a price to be paid for a fair and just world and have been to happy to build fences to keep poor people out while robbing their countries of wealth. Perhaps the current hyped up crisis that is besetting all developed countries will eventually make the west realise that having it all at the expence of everyone else is no longer an option. Unfortunately I doubt the politicians are up to it nor are there enough ordinanry people willing to look beyond their own selfish needs and accept a little less for the sake of their fellow human beings.

This is not a problem that can be solved by building a fortress America or Europe. It is a problem that needs to be solved at source and that is solving poverty and to stop western companies acting like Afghan bandits. Too often we in the west put our heads in the sand and ignore the crime that is taking place in our names because it means we have a more materially rich life. However, beyond a certain point, further wealth doesn't make for a happier society so there is psychological gain in saying enough is enough, let's deal with the real issue. World poverty!

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 5:02:58 AM   
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Breaking and entering is a crime. 

Entering the country without proper documentation is a crime.
 
What if we over look everyone who commites a B & E after all like illegals they are breaking and entering to improve their lives or benifit themselves.
 
What if the when someone broke into your home, car, or business the police said " The laws have changed it is you who must see to it that others are provided for or you are being neglecful."
 
What if someone broke into your home, car, or business was found leaving said place with property and a police officer said to you "It is against the law to ask him if he stole that."
 
What if when you and the one being tried for breaking and entering on your property the judge said "Well he only wanted to better himself and since your house is bigger. You make more money, have health insurance, and better schools you must provide these things for him.After all everyone has a RIGHT to a better life."
 
What if someone broke into your car and stole it. When then police pull someone over that is driving it they tell you " well they may have obtained it legally but State legislation allowed them to register it."

 
If someone can illegally enter the country and have these things done why not extend that and allow someone who illegally enters your home  these same rights. After all it doesn't hurt anyone right?

 
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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 6:53:53 AM   
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You are proposing a false dichotomy. That would not be allowed in a court of law. Comparing illegal immigrants to burglars is avoiding the issue at hand.

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 7:13:42 AM   
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Now I do gotta ask why you call my statements a  false dichotomy is. A dichotomy is a division or the process of dividing into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities or the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated I just don't see how either definitions fit into your statement.
 
Both are crimes.
Both serve an individual personal gain or benifit.
Both have laws on the books pertaining to them and their punishments.
Boths costs individuals and society money.
Both cause people to loose a sense of security. (If anyone can simply walk over the boarder how does a gov. truly monitor who comes in and out?)
 
 
 
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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 7:45:38 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika

Now I do gotta ask why you call my statements a  false dichotomy is. A dichotomy is a division or the process of dividing into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities or the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated I just don't see how either definitions fit into your statement.
 
Both are crimes.
Both serve an individual personal gain or benifit.
Both have laws on the books pertaining to them and their punishments.
Boths costs individuals and society money.
Both cause people to loose a sense of security. (If anyone can simply walk over the boarder how does a gov. truly monitor who comes in and out?)
 
Blessed Be,
Phoenix's Nika



In comparing illegal immigrants with burglars is comparing two completely different crimes with different sets of motivations. An illegal immigrant is not targeting an individual's property nor trying to get anything for free but trying to gain a situation where they can earn money with their sweat.

Everybody's motivation to find work is for personal gain and benefit.

There might be laws but laws that don't work are bad laws, the laws don't work because the so called 'criminal' is aided and abetted by people who gain out of their exploitation.

Neither necessarily costs the individual citizen or society as a whole money. There is an argument that they help society function. There is a big study being done in Europe about the alledged gains and costs. The definitive answer is not yet known.

Paranoia, hysteria and hype, causes people to lose their sense of security, not any material thing.

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 9:05:40 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

quote:

ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika

Now I do gotta ask why you call my statements a  false dichotomy is. A dichotomy is a division or the process of dividing into two especially mutually exclusive or contradictory groups or entities or the phase of the moon or an inferior planet in which half its disk appears illuminated I just don't see how either definitions fit into your statement.
 
Both are crimes.
Both serve an individual personal gain or benifit.
Both have laws on the books pertaining to them and their punishments.
Boths costs individuals and society money.
Both cause people to loose a sense of security. (If anyone can simply walk over the boarder how does a gov. truly monitor who comes in and out?)
 
Blessed Be,
Phoenix's Nika



In comparing illegal immigrants with burglars is comparing two completely different crimes with different sets of motivations. An illegal immigrant is not targeting an individual's property nor trying to get anything for free but trying to gain a situation where they can earn money with their sweat.

Everybody's motivation to find work is for personal gain and benefit.

There might be laws but laws that don't work are bad laws, the laws don't work because the so called 'criminal' is aided and abetted by people who gain out of their exploitation.

Neither necessarily costs the individual citizen or society as a whole money. There is an argument that they help society function. There is a big study being done in Europe about the alledged gains and costs. The definitive answer is not yet known.

Paranoia, hysteria and hype, causes people to lose their sense of security, not any material thing.


I had a big long thing typed out but then thought what's the point. It took 5 minutes to confirm that illegals cost the state and national government money. The only programs they contribute more than collect is social security and medicare. However, they consume way more than the surplus they generate in those programs to offset the benefit. Just do a search "Costs of illegal immigration on US".  So, they are stealing services, they don't pay for and really have no right to.

Also, your acertion that they come over to work. Well, most do but not all, some come over to be involved in illegal activity. But it doesn't really matter. They cost all legal citizens money regardless of intention. Illegal use of the border is a security issue. The only people benfiting are some corporations, human traffickers, drug runners, and the Mexican economy. I see nothing good in that for the US. So we get lettuce a bit cheaper, but you just pay for it in the form of higher taxes and/or deficits.

Crack down on companies using illegal labor, and crack down on illegals.

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 9:51:45 AM   
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Withholding medical care to anyone in society is short sighted as a society's health is a community affair. Desease and illness is social and needs to be tackled that way.

I'm not sure what the rule is in the US but some people appear to say that illegals can't claim tax and social security benefits and others say they can so I can't respond to that.

Illegals can claim benefit and medical care in Britain but in France one needs a social security card or they are locked out of the state system. Until an international solution has been found, I think Britain does the right thing. I don't mind paying a little more tax if it alleviates poverty for people less fortunate than me. Hell, we give enough tax breaks to the rich who basically pay fuck all and comparably less than illegals.

Which brings me to my point. Illegals are usually used as a smoke screen for bad government policies and that is irrelevant to what country we are talking about. It's emotive and stops rational debate and stops people looking closely at more important issues. ie. Iraq, in Britain and I suspect the same in the US.

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RE: This Explains it..... - 5/18/2006 1:33:30 PM   
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I can't condone illegal 'immigration' in America. It's not "immigration" when you enter the country illegally; it's criminal entry. This is a sovereign nation and its government has the right and the duty to keep out or deport (or jail) those who enter illegally. Every other nation on the face of the earth exercises that right without apologizing for protecting itself from illegal incursion. However, here in the Bastion of Orwell, where the federal government is under the control of traitors and mindless robots workers who are engaged in a covert agenda intended to destroy America from within, we have hundreds of thousands of mostly Mexican, but some Central or South American illegal aliens protesting in the major cities of America shouting for "their rights" to freely live and work here "just as every other immigrant group who ever came to America without being treated like a criminal" and similar myths.  
(You should note that the 'immigrant' protest marches are being played to the hilt in the media while the larger protest marches mounted in the weeks and months prior to Bush's invasion of Iraq in 2003, were played down to the hilt, given 15 second sound bytes on TV, and grossly underreported as to the size of the protesting crowds, both in America and abroad. Why? Because the so called 'immigration' issue was contrived to erupt at this time in order to act as an emotion-charged diversion, while the far more important issue of going to war with Iran (including implementation of the draft) proceeds quietly in the background, un-debated, unexamined, and un-protested. )
Just to set the record straight, if you enter this country illegally, you have committed a crime and therefore you would be guilty of engaging in criminal behavior. That behavior would define you as a 'criminal'. Currently, that criminal behavior is classified as a misdemeanor crime. An Immigration Reform bill, spearheaded by House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner (Wisconsin Republican) which passed 239-182 in December 2005, calls for illegal entry to be classified as a felony crime.
While unaware liberals and illegal aliens (or their advocates) characterize this provision as "draconian", "mean-spirited", and "unfair", it seems to me that it's the logical thing to do when your country is being overrun with illegal aliens and there's no end in sight. When Illuminati straw man Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to 3 million Mexican, Central American, and South American illegals in 1986, that was touted in the press as a magnanimous 'solution' to the problem. In exchange for granting alien resident  or citizenship status to 3 million poor people who slipped into this country to further burden our schools and health care systems, we were told that the contentious issue would now be "behind us." Twenty years later, however, we now have 12 million new illegal aliens residing in America, but now they are taking to the streets of America to protest for 'immigration rights' and are demanding that United States legislators should "listen to the voice of the people" as I heard one woman with a heavy Spanish accent tell a TV reporter.
The Dissolution of America
Please bear in mind that there is a single political Illuminati agenda and that is the creation of a One World feudal government. The illegal aliens shouting in the streets for their "rights" and brazenly marching with the Mexican flag held high do not know that. Nor do they see the part that they are playing in effecting that goal. The Illuminati agenda requires the destruction of the United States, politically, economically, and militarily. The flooding of this country with illegal aliens is part of that agenda.
Beyond the cost to American taxpayers, the growth of illegal aliens creates a sense of lost cohesiveness, unity, and national identity among native born Americans. You give up easier when you view your "town" (symbolically speaking) as having gone to Hell in a hand basket. When I first came to southern California in the early 1990's, there were 3 or 4 radio stations in Spanish and 2 or 3 Spanish television stations. Today, about one third of all the FM radio stations that I can receive here are broadcast in Spanish and about 50% of all UFH stations that I can pick up with my TV antennae are in Spanish. Traditionally, true immigrants to America entered legally and came in order to stay and become part of the tapestry of America. They worked, raised their families, and mostly spent their money here in America, contributing to the country's growth and prosperity. That's not what's taking place with the current army of illegal aliens.
The money they earn here is being sent back to their native Mexico, Guatemala, or San Salvador, which amounts to many Billions (one source-60 billion) which advocates for illegal aliens will freely admit and even boast about. After they take care of their family and extended families, they next turn their attention to building up the infrastructure of the little town they came from replete with new baseball stadiums and a civic swimming pool. That's great for the locals, but every dollar sent out of America deprives Americans of that energy exchange. It's not true that 12 million illegal aliens are performing jobs that Americans are not willing to do, like The Decider keeps telling us over and over again on TV. Just try to get a job here as a carpenter, painter, landscaper, maintenance man, lawn care man, etc.. If you're an American, forget it. You won't get to first base with the employer. He doesn't want to hire Americans because he can get all the illegal Mexican aliens he wants at below market wages and no concerns about unemployment benefits, union headaches, etc. It's illegal to hire 'undocumented workers', but there is no enforcement of those laws by federal  agencies who are in a position to identify employers hiring illegal aliens. That's not an accident or oversight, that's internal policy.
The downfall of the United States could not be wrought from the outside, so the plan was set in motion more than two hundred and twenty five years ago (Adam Weisshaup) to destroy this country from within by rotting out the foundations of our religious, moral, and political values (read Pawns in the Game by William Guy Carr), replacing traitors where there were once stood loyal patriots striving to improve and protect the interests of America.
Illuminati agents had been slowly infiltrated into the government from its very inception (Alexander Hamilton), but the pace of infiltration throughout American society picked up in the closing decade of the nineteenth century (Fabian Society) and became more significant with the administration of Woodrow Wilson. The creation of the Federal Reserve Banking system in 1913 and the multitude of treasonous acts implemented by FDR in the 1930's set the framework for the betrayal that we now see unfolding around us. Truman greatly accelerated the destructive goals of the Illuminati by allowing the creation of the CIA  in 1949. The implementation of the CIA was guided into place by Allen Welsh Dulles (CIA director under Eisenhower) and John Foster Dulles (Sec. of State under Eisenhower), both of whom were Illuminati agents for the House of Rothchild. In my opinion, Eisenhower and Kennedy were the last two loyal American Presidents we had (in fact, Kennedy got himself killed because he thought he was President).
Johnson was sort of a transitional traitor. If you had confronted him with the accusation, I'm sure he would have been mortified, but he was the sort of man who had lost so much of his moral compass while playing the politics game in Texas, that he had too little conscience and far too much ambition to forego the opportunity to become President following the assassination of his boss - whom he bitterly hated (I'm convinced that Johnson was aware of the plan to kill Kennedy). Nixon could also be called a transitional traitor. The Illuminati was able to install their agent directly into the Oval Office in the person of Henry Kissinger (who essentially dominated Nixon and his policies) just as they installed their boy 'Colonel' Edward Mandel House directly into the Oval Office when Wilson occupied it  After arranging for Nixon's impeachment for not following their orders closely enough, the Illuminati forced Nixon to give the Mason's hand wave for acknowledging their control and his defeat by waving his right arm from left side to right side as we all witnessed on TV while he bid farewell from the steps of the helicopter sitting on the White House lawn. Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, and Bush 2, of course, were all hand picked 'company men', who would follow orders (and in the case of Bush 1, give them too).
Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan are/were essentially decent types who lacked the capacity for cruelty and evil that was reported of the others, but they cooperated with 'the Council' all the same, especially Reagan. FEMA and all of its evil outgrowths started under Jimmy Carter. Reagan's Star wars (SDI) program is the reason you can't go anywhere on the planet or use an ATM, telephone, or credit card without being tracked to the Nth degree by the NSA, Mossad, etc.
Good Cop, Bad Cop
Now we come to the Machiavellian game being played by Senator Bill Frist and other high profile members of congress. Frist is the lead Bushite in the Senate who's attempting to use the 'immigration' issue to both make himself look good (Presidential aspirant) and to assist The Decider in looking less like a corporate poodle and more like a Man of the People. Maybe you could call it Good Cop, Bad Cop. Frist fronts his version of the Immigration Reform bill to capitalize on the outrage felt by American citizens when they see scores of illegal aliens protesting in the streets of America for their "rights." Americans, unaware of the game, will then view Frist-and his 'wing' of the Republican party-as loyalists to the Constitution and identify with him as one of the 'good guys'. Sensenbrenner's House version is demonized as heavy-handed and evil, while Frist's version is seen as more just and less 'reactionary'. If the Frist version becomes the final version of the bill, then the corporate elites get the "guest worker" flim flam they wanted all along while placating the American public into thinking that 'something is being done' about illegal immigration problem. Of course, the Decider gets to look like the Settler of Disputes among his bickering congressional "family."
Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, another traitor to America, played EXACTLY the same game in 2003 when he was making the rounds of TV political talk shows with a bound copy of the Constitution tucked under his arm protesting Bush's impending attack of Iraq as unconstitutional. Of course, the attack on Iraq was unconstitutional, as the U.S. Constitution requires a declaration of war made by congress, not the President, but Byrd was using the opportunity to bolster his political image and project the idea that he's concerned about abuse of the The People's Constitution and is part of the 'loyal' opposition. Nothing, however, could be further from the truth.
Byrd is working for the Illuminati to bring about the destruction of America and to implement the satanic One World government just as as surely as Ted Kennedy, Patrick Leahy, and Barney Frank, who also posture themselves as part of the 'loyal' opposition, are part of the congressional cabal of traitors. If you want to see the hidden side to the face of these one-eyed jacks, then read about Byrd, Kennedy, and Leahy in Brice Taylor's book, Thanks for the Memories and Cathy O'Brien's book, TranceFormation of America. If you want insights on the darker side of Barney Frank, then take a look at The Franklin Cover-Up by John DeCamp.
Treason
On October 21, 2001, when 98 U.S. senators (thank you Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, the lone dissenting vote) and 356 House representatives voted in favor of the  US Patriot Act, they committed treason by voting for legislation that includes provisions that are in DIRECT VIOLATION of the U.S. Constitution. When the President of the United States or members of congress take the oath of office, they swear to uphold the Constitution.
Allowing hundreds (or perhaps thousands ) of tanker planes to fly over the skies of America spraying millions of gallons of toxic substances called chemtrails each and every day and yet do nothing about it (nor even acknowledge that it's taking place) is treason.
Allowing the findings of a white wash and farce called the 911 Commission to stand and thus make an utter mockery of the truth surrounding the events that took place on September 11, 2001 in order to conceal the fact that 911 was an inside job, is an act of treason that is further compounded by the covering up an even greater act of High Treason by the Executive and military.
And allowing millions of illegal aliens to flood into this country under the pretense of needed 'guest workers' is yet another treasonous decision designed to lead to the final dissolution of one of the greatest expressions of liberty and democratic ideals since the days of  Pericles.
We must rescue our children from these circumstances. The responsibility rests with us, and not with the leaders who are betraying us.
Ken Adachi
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