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Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single men? - 5/17/2006 6:27:30 PM   
MasterBear4slave


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Status: offline 		In reading through the various profiles of single male slaves and submissives who identify as bisexual, there seem to be a large number who are NOT interested in single gay men.  Interestingly, these "bi-sexual" men seem only interested in experience with another man if he is in some type of relationship with a female.

Are these men merely interested in bisexuality as some type of degradation scene?  Are they truly bisexual or just consider interaction with another man to be the ultimate form of humiliation play?

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/17/2006 6:34:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, for me, my sexuality isn't the basis of my service. I'm bisexual, but I don't serve women because a woman can't take my power from me and that's a requirement for my submission. I don't have sex with Tops or bottoms so my bisexual orientation is a separate beast from my slave self. It could be something similar for male slaves as well. I wasn't really aware it was an issue though, so thanks for bringing it up.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/17/2006 6:40:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MasterBear4slave

In reading through the various profiles of single male slaves and submissives who identify as bisexual, there seem to be a large number who are NOT interested in single gay men.


I bet it has something do do with the fact that the vast majority of single female slaves and submissives who identify as bisexual are NOT interested in single straight men.

Not sure why they are related...maybe it keeps the universe in ballance or something.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/17/2006 6:42:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've actually found among my experience being a bisexual female that most lesbian females don't even want to talk to me. I would thing most bisexual guys have the same experience with gay guys.

It is more likely what you are running into are bisexual men with a strong heterosexual preference, rather than truely bisexual men. For many it may simply be an idea that sounds hot to them in their mind, but something they are holding back from experiencing for some reason or another. I highly doubt they want the man to be with a woman. Unless they are wanting to have sex with both perhaps.

I think many bisexual polyamourous people would not want to limit themselves to one sex, which may be what is happening here. Just a theory.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 1:24:11 AM   
understud


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Status: offline 		This isn't addressed to me as a sub; but hope you won't mind my responding to your question...speaking for me, myself and i alone. i am bi, but do not actively seek out males. To me it's the person, i'm not drawn to every male i meet.  A few yes, but not all...not all are my type... lol.  i can enjoy either male or female but given my druthers i prefer women, but do not rule out men..that's why i think i'm bi. and nothing wrong with being gay, lesbian or anything in between...to each their own...Because someone is bi doesn't mean they run after everyone of  both sexes. To me its means a willingness to share with someone you find compatible, regardless of  their sexual assignment.
Again speaking only for myself; i would not have ruled out a male Dom, as it turned out o now serve a most wonderful Domme...Consider if i did chase after everyone, i think that would have made me a tramp; bi or not. i am not a tramp.  Now that i study on your question...i don't know...i do enjoy both sexes, but do not try to bed everything that walks down the street...does that make me any less bi...i don't think so  lol...
i have noticed most males do think i'm more gay than bi and can get a little defencive if i try and talk with them.  Some lesbians won't give me the time of day... and a few gay men as well.  It seems i get along better with straights and other bi's .
Could it be i'm not predujust but other are lol?  Good question i hadn't really thought about this until i read your post.
 
now seriously thinking, and no easy task for me.
 
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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 1:39:26 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterBear4slave
Are these men merely interested in bisexuality as some type of degradation scene?  Are they truly bisexual or just consider interaction with another man to be the ultimate form of humiliation play?
MasterBear4slave 
 

I can attest that for some this is a factor. Within the cuckold world humiliation, forced bi, forced oral on "superior" males (bulls), being demeaned and belittled by other males in the presence of women and by women is a major thrill for some guys. I get endless mail and requests along this theme. I think for some its the whole issue that for a otherwise predominantly heterosexual male anything "gay" is the ultimate in humiliation. So for some these notion/fantasy becomes eroticized to the point that it intermixes with anything S/M, forced, slavish etc. Sadly in your case (and others) what happens in fantasy world and what happens in the real world is not at all the same. Anyway it may be easy to list on their profile that they are "bi" when in reality their fantasy is to be forced into bisexual acts. Ok, this is just something I have encountered and am not implying its the case with all or whatever percent of guys profiles on Collar.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 3:24:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's just because there's an endless supply of single males--and they tend to send out e-mails like there's no tomorrow.  So anyone who's not interested in single males is forced to say so.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 5:25:29 AM   
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quote:

these "bi-sexual" men seem only interested in experience with another man if he is in some type of relationship with a female.

Are these men merely interested in bisexuality as some type of degradation scene?  Are they truly bisexual or just consider interaction with another man to be the ultimate form of humiliation play?


Your observation of this as being a form of humiliation or ultimate release of control with their female partner is fairly accurate & I would have to agree that this accounts for a large portion of the men that identify as bisexual.

I will add that in my own observation I have noticed men that lean toward relationships with other men do not identify as bisexual. I have spoken with many gay men in my life that have admitted that they were female friendly but not one has ever told me that they were bisexual. I have also found that even strictly gay men admire certain female attributes. Seems like men of any orientation like boobs.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 5:31:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is my humble opinion that many men do not realize they are bi sexual until late in life - and that they strive to find out through a discrete encounter first to determine not only if that is what they need but if they can handle it.  Of course being bi sexual does not mean your interest lies in the bdsm world.  It is a difficult course for them to follow for sure.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 8:33:50 AM   
amativedame


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Status: offline 		Although some may feel that it is the ultimate forms of humiliation play or degradation... in the end most simply list themselves as bisexual to make themselves look more attractive to a dominant female for various reasons.  Every once and a while you will see a thread pop up about forced-bi (such as this one here) which may or may not make up a lot of what you see.

At this point and time in "history" I don't think we have really put a solid definition of what bisexuality really is.  Each of us forms our own definitions, and embarks on our path in the world thinking something slightly different than someone else.  A lot of times these definitions are similar with the people we come across.  Other times they aren't.   I think a good chunk (I am not saying all) of the "bisexual" males on here list so to make themselves look more appealing to a dominant female.  I think another big chunk is made up of people who could really be bisexual but aren't comfortable or ready enough to really cement that part of their life yet.  You find that many will get involved in something if it involves a female as you mentioned because it all has to do with definition.  To them it’s different.  In some (possibly minuscule way) it’s not the same.  One of the larger excuses would be "she made me do it" or "I wanted to make her happy."  For some it’s a way to experience their desires without having to admit to them.  It’s easier that way... less demons to face.  There isn’t any real clear cut way to justify something one on one that only involves someone who is the same sex.  It stares you dead in the face… and some aren’t ready for that.

The percentage of truly bisexual males who are seeking a dominant male is unfortunately on the small side, just like the amount of bisexual females who would serve a dominant female.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 9:14:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe being bisexual they would prefer two partners -- one male, one female?

Maybe they have experienced bias from gay men? I have a friend who is a master who has discovered that he is probably bisexual not gay but he won't tell his slave this because his slave looks down on bisexual as "fence-sitters" (that's his best term).

The bias exists from straight people too.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 9:41:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP-I have no idea why these bi men you are running into do not seem to prefer or want single gay men. If you have the opportunity one day, perhaps ask one.

But my main reason for posting here is to attempt to dispell the rumor (?) belief (?) that some ppl seem to have regarding what makes for true bisexuality and what does not...someone suggested that a bi male having primary leanings toward heteosexuaity is not (or may not be) a "true Bisexual." I know I'm being nit-picky on this point, but bisexuality is simply bisexuality. Whether you lean mostly het or gay/les matters not at all, if you are bi, you are truly bi.

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 2:48:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The same goes for Bisexual females, 98 percent of them say no single men. A man is only allowed if he is with a woman but they accept a single women. I find it discriminatory. I have always thought it was some power trip women like to put over men to degrade men in some way but I didn't realize bisexual men do it to. 

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 3:04:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thought I would share my thoughts on this with my little experience

For me, a bisexual submissive female, I seek only male Dom's, because males are my preference. I do not see myself submitting to a Domme, although I have found many quite attractive.

For me where my bi-sexuality lies is with other fem subs. My former Dom was married and I enjoyed being with His wife as much as Himself. She was soft, cuddly, warm. All the things I like in a female.

*Just food for thought from this "fence sitter"  LOL!

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 3:32:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am bisexual that is my sexuality, my submissiveness again is to both sexes, however i can see some bisexuals who prefer one sex or other to submit too, as long as upfront about it then surely no problem, if someone is straight and they only date blonde haired people do others question them, i guess its what floats each persons boat, conforming to strict rules ie bisexuals should be/do the following...... is wrong, it requires getting to know the other person.
The above just my views off top of head, no challenge or insulting of others views intended.   

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RE: Why do bisexual male slaves seem not prefer single ... - 5/19/2006 9:05:01 PM   
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