Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote:
EVERYONE is a "job creator." There's a need, you've got the solution--that's a market. Those who complain "I'm smart and talented but I can't find work" is either not as smart/talented as they imagined or are waiting for someone else to come along and solve their problems for them. I would agree, and I have created my own work, and was making a profit at my business within a year.... meaning I was in the black, and had already paid back my capital investment, plus.... But that does not mean that there isn't any reason to work for others and with others in a venture, or that the labor that is invested by the worker isn't valuable and unworthy of appreciation. But then I didn't say that. In fact, I've said the opposite in this thread. quote:
The "Job Creators" don't get any sympathy from me either. An established business that "can't function in this environment" has leaders who forgot everything they may have once learned about business. Markets change. Good business people are on top of this. The rest whine about the economy, government, poor labor force, etc. Those who employ workers in large numbers have that workforce educated by the state. That education is something that they do not pay for, yet they employ people that have it. In other words, an educated workforce is a subsidy to business.... Yes, they DO pay for it, in property taxes, just as you do, either directly or through rent. My larger point, which I do not think that you got it, is that the employ/employer relationship is symbiotic, and both rely on each other. Of course I "got" it. I even said so in this thread. If employers are not willing to be appreciative of their educated workforce and treat them as though they are just parts in a machine, then it has become a parasitic relationship.... especially when they are profiting more than their workers off the means of production, and dehumanizing them in the process... Again, I've already addressed this directly in this thread. You seem determined to "set me straight" without reading what I've already written. quote:
Peter Drucker, 60 years ago, stressed that labor is a resource (vs. a cost drag). Good business leaders know this--and use it. Too bad the economy exists to enrich the few, and the rest are just resources instead of people. This comes down to the basic values or ethical foundation... does an economy exist for society, or for the individual That's one large assumption--where'd you get that idea? Or the idea people aren't enriched?
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