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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:00:09 PM   
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Norway's a breeding ground for muslim terrorists just like Iraq, is it? Got a citation for that?


There has been an occasion or two where they have been arsed by them, because of Norways presence in Afghanistan....

al-Aswad (a norwegian) is talking sensibly about it here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3778869/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#3779205


No argument with anything he says but (as he points out) there's no evidence that it's Jihadists yet.


I agree wholheartedly, and will consider the opinion of a norwegian man (on the ground) over a man who claims to be an arizona boss man, who is in charge of nothing for cause, and of majorly doubtful truth in any post, as well as reason or reality.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:02:36 PM   
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Sorry, the CBC and the US press is reporting the man arrested as a Nordic Norwegian citizen.Or at least according to the Norwegian Justice minsiter Knut Storberget.




And that precludes hm from being Muslim? As I recall the December bomber was a Norwegian citizen and a Muslim. Also I havent read that the shooting and the bombing are definitely related.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:05:10 PM   
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not definite, very true... but... looks more than just a shot int he dark


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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:11:06 PM   
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Sorry, the CBC and the US press is reporting the man arrested as a Nordic Norwegian citizen.Or at least according to the Norwegian Justice minsiter Knut Storberget.

And that precludes hm from being Muslim? As I recall the December bomber was a Norwegian citizen and a Muslim. Also I havent read that the shooting and the bombing are definitely related.

Indeed, there are quite a large number of Western converts to Islam. Its important not to jump to conclusions too quickly as I said but it being an Islamic terrorist attack is a definite possibility considering the number of threats against Norway.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:18:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think we should take this threat seriously and analyize it. So, we need to develop some metrics so we can compare the threats to get an accurate assement. Here are some of the top of my head

Lets compare tonage of explosives muslims have detonated in western countries and compare that with the tonnage of explosives the west has detonated in muslim countries
Number of western countries overthrown by muslims compared with muslim countries overthrown by western countries
Number of attempted or complete invasions of western countries by muslims compared with muslim countries invaded by western countries
Number of civilian muslims killed by western nations compared with civilians in western nations killed by muslims
Number of continents ruled by christian countries compared with those ruled by muslims

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:24:30 PM   
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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:36:35 PM   
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I think we should take this threat seriously and analyize it. So, we need to develop some metrics so we can compare the threats to get an accurate assement. Here are some of the top of my head

Lets compare tonage of explosives muslims have detonated in western countries and compare that with the tonnage of explosives the west has detonated in muslim countries
Number of western countries overthrown by muslims compared with muslim countries overthrown by western countries
Number of attempted or complete invasions of western countries by muslims compared with muslim countries invaded by western countries
Number of civilian muslims killed by western nations compared with civilians in western nations killed by muslims
Number of continents ruled by christian countries compared with those ruled by muslims


This!

Seeing the shithead hoping that it`s a Muslim is sick,hateful and bigoted.



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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:36:42 PM   
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Considering the number of civilizations destroyed and wiped from the face of the earth, entire languages lost, literature and art destroyed by Christians, the current hysteria over Muslims seems over the top "chicken little" to me.

That's an issue of the very distant past. Most religions have done their fair share of damage including Islam, e.g. the Zoroastrians were completely wiped from Persia.

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Lets get real, if there was a real effort by the powers that be in the Muslim world to actually destroy the west or the other idiocy the whole "they want to return to the 8th century" conspiracy, all they would have to do is shut down or destroy oil production.

Ever wondered why America and other Western powers vie for influence in the Middle-East? Its to ensure a continuous oil supply by minimising regional political interests that would do otherwise.

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In case you don't follow events not covered by Fox news, that hasn't happened. About 10 years ago, they managed to kill about 3,000 us citizens, we destroyed two entire countries and left them a mess and killed tens of thousands in return.

Due to intensive Western security measures in recent years, it might be more telling to discuss the violence between Muslims, and between Muslims and Christians, in non-Western nations. Its worth noting that of the 120,000 Iraqi civilians killed in the war there, over 80% were killed by insurgents according to the NGO Iraq Body Count.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:38:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

I think we should take this threat seriously and analyize it. So, we need to develop some metrics so we can compare the threats to get an accurate assement. Here are some of the top of my head

Lets compare tonage of explosives muslims have detonated in western countries and compare that with the tonnage of explosives the west has detonated in muslim countries
Number of western countries overthrown by muslims compared with muslim countries overthrown by western countries
Number of attempted or complete invasions of western countries by muslims compared with muslim countries invaded by western countries
Number of civilian muslims killed by western nations compared with civilians in western nations killed by muslims
Number of continents ruled by christian countries compared with those ruled by muslims



Lets not spend our time on meaningless and asinine statistics.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 3:50:32 PM   
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Michael I accept some can exaggerate this issue but it isn't as black and white as you appear to be claiming.
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Considering the number of civilizations destroyed and wiped from the face of the earth, entire languages lost, literature and art destroyed by Christians, the current hysteria over Muslims seems over the top "chicken little" to me.

That's an issue of the very distant past. Most religions have done their fair share of damage including Islam, e.g. the Zoroastrians were completely wiped from Persia.

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Lets get real, if there was a real effort by the powers that be in the Muslim world to actually destroy the west or the other idiocy the whole "they want to return to the 8th century" conspiracy, all they would have to do is shut down or destroy oil production.

Ever wondered why America and other Western powers vie for influence in the Middle-East? Its to ensure a continuous oil supply by minimising regional political interests that would do otherwise.

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In case you don't follow events not covered by Fox news, that hasn't happened. About 10 years ago, they managed to kill about 3,000 us citizens, we destroyed two entire countries and left them a mess and killed tens of thousands in return.

Due to intensive Western security measures in recent years, it might be more telling to discuss the violence between Muslims, and between Muslims and Christians, in non-Western nations. Its worth noting that of the 120,000 Iraqi civilians killed in the war there, over 80% were killed by insurgents according to the NGO Iraq Body Count.


Oil, really? So constantly overthrowing and interfering with their governments in order to steal their resources might create the sort of economic dysfunction that results in civil strife? Nah, couldn't be, its just those dark skinned savages don't know how to do civilization like us western civilized people!

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:43:39 PM   
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As we count the bodies in Norway, where is the condemnation from the so called "moderate" muslims? Did I miss that press conference?

Now Norway knows... you can't suck enough cock to please them. This is a worldwide WAR on fascist Islamic terrorists. Bush couldn't even identify the enemy. He was far better than The Messiah (aka, "Dear Leader") but I had tired of him after eight years.

I hope and PRAY we pick a real conservative to take back the White House November 2012, for both the economy and national security.


ArizonaBabyBoy, maybe you wanna check what happened before you jump to conclusions, and do you really want to put another guy with a checkered military record back there? You know an ex alcoholic, ex cokehead dyslexic who starts wars, ruins the most healthy economy a president has encountered, starts stupid wars on pretenses that he can't even manufacture evidence for (WOMD anybody) - yeah, you so must love being a colony of China now. Why do you worry about Muslims and illegal immigrants? Shouldn't you start learning Chinese, because thanks to your previous leader, they own your ass now, so you better please them...

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:47:17 PM   
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Given the history of al-Qaeda in Norway, I'll lay you 3:1 it was Islamic terrorism.


Still keeping up those odds?
Right now everything looks like you would go under with that one.


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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:47:53 PM   
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ruins the most healthy economy a president has encountered,



Another one who wants to rewrite history.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:49:44 PM   
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Lets not spend our time on meaningless and asinine statistics.


And why not ? It would make a change from spending our time on your meaningless and asinine posts.




Oh he does meaningless and asinine statistics as well, one of the very few times he cites sources (not credible mind you but sources).

search for Rassmussen and Wilbur. 

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:50:17 PM   
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ruins the most healthy economy a president has encountered,



Oh look, another one who's in denial, still too jealous of Clinton's BJ to face reality? Hey, should I wire you $20 so you too can have a BJ, hope that experience won't blow your mind, but you keep kissing the ass of the ex alcoholic ex cokehead guy who sold you out to China...

Another one who wants to rewrite history.



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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:51:13 PM   
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Given the history of al-Qaeda in Norway, I'll lay you 3:1 it was Islamic terrorism.


Still keeping up those odds?
Right now everything looks like you would go under with that one.




We'll see! I havent heard anything about the bombing that makes me think otherwise.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:52:37 PM   
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ruins the most healthy economy a president has encountered,



Oh look, another one who's in denial, still too jealous of Clinton's BJ to face reality? Hey, should I wire you $20 so you too can have a BJ, hope that experience won't blow your mind, but you keep kissing the ass of the ex alcoholic ex cokehead guy who sold you out to China...

Another one who wants to rewrite history.





Read a book besides romance novels, dearie. You dont know wtf youre talking about.

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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:53:56 PM   
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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:55:42 PM   
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RE: Question to "moderate" muslims and their ... - 7/22/2011 4:56:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		what is there in the news that makes you think its a muslim wilbur?
Ill take your bet... however..As I dont trust a word comes from your fingertips, let alone to place a bet, so its kinda pointless really.. but still what suggests a "moozlem evildoer"?

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