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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:15:38 PM   
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He hears, he just knows that his number 2 is waiting in the wings to usurp him, and the tea party freshmen don't like him.

In other words his personal position as speaker of the house is more important than his country


Having lived in Ohio when he was in the state legislature then, I can agree.

This is a man only concerned with his personal ambitions.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:16:42 PM   
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Course ur so intelligent its a wonder u lower urself to spend time on these threads with such low life....and u must be clarvoint too, seeing as u can tell weather or not I read.....good for u....again I bow to ur hinny.
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Sorry lady you give no indication at all of possessing anything approximating intellectual curiosity .So I'm not buying this....on the other hand I do believe someone told you what the book was "about".... Leading you by your not so cute nose to the very conclusions they spoon fed you.
Let's be serious here anyone that reads as a habit,picks up a rudimentary ability to spell....even if we are just talking about basic words....you know ones with like three letters or so....

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:22:09 PM   
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Still leaves that pesky deficit....



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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:22:39 PM   
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Right.....there have never been great men who couldn't spell.....and typing ability has nothing to do with it......
Course ur so intelligent its a wonder u lower urself to spend time on these threads with such low life....and u must be clarvoint too, seeing as u can tell weather or not I read.....good for u....again I bow to ur hinny.
(Snicker) ooops don't u hate it when I use u instead of you?


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Sorry lady you give no indication at all of possessing anything approximating intellectual curiosity .So I'm not buying this....on the other hand I do believe someone told you what the book was "about".... Leading you by your not so cute nose to the very conclusions they spoon fed you.
Let's be serious here anyone that reads as a habit,picks up a rudimentary ability to spell....even if we are just talking about basic words....you know ones with like three letters or so....



LMAO. The post he responded to had one character reversal and one creative contraction. So glad I havent had to read any of his nonsense for over a year. Thats what he thinks is relevant content.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:25:00 PM   
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When I'm short on cash, that's always what I do....make sure I don't increase my revenue.




What do you do?

Take a loan or alter your life by taking another job?


I work or produce more.

A short term situation, OK, a loan. Owing as much as I produce in a year with it growing and no end in sight? Raise revenue.

What do you do?


Wait a sec... at some point you can't work or produce more... first you will have to find an employer and then you'll need to make sure your secondary job does not interfere with your primary job? You also can't get a loan if you are maxed out!


The United States is MAXED out. It still collects enough revenue to meets its current obligations BUT IT NEEDS TO STOP SPENDING MONEY AND TAKING ON NEW OBLIGATIONS!

The United States does not have a revenue problem, it has a massive spending problem.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:28:12 PM   
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The United States is MAXED out.


How do you figure? We've been cutting taxes for 30 years!

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The United States does not have a revenue problem, it has a massive spending problem.

Gosh, that sounds catchy. It's also crap--we have BOTH, and you're not going to solve this with cuts alone.

Here's why:

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If the debt is such a crisis, why are these guys and their partisan parrots here OK not only with continuing it, but also with growing it further???

Do the math. It would take all discretionary spending cut, including all defense (and obviously we can't do that), to barely come out of deficit. So instead...we just keep adding to the debt. Consequences? Interest rates climb...and that means for us all, not just the Treasury.

It's gonna take increasing revenue, folks. Without taxes, we have more debt. Bottom line.





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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:29:55 PM   
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People care more about jobs and a better economy than about the governments debt level.


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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:31:09 PM   
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How do you figure? We've been cutting taxes for 30 years!



Wrong again. Youre on a roll, and not a very good one.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:32:49 PM   
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We've had 30 years of steamrolling debt too. Good plan.

You'll need better than bullshit dismissals. Try something with numbers.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:34:14 PM   
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Ah. The magic money man.

We've had 30 years of steamrolling debt too. Good plan.

You'll need better than bullshit dismissals. Try something with numbers.


Why don't you try numbers. Youre the one who made the bullshit claim. You can start with googling "us tax revenues as a percent of gdp"

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:36:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course. That's why we're rolling in revenue!

Look, bottom line is still--debt is simply increasing without revenue as well as cuts.

Tax RATES are markedly lower. And guess what? Your goalposts show falling revenue as well:



Note the Reagan drop in 1980, and the Bush drop in 2000. (There's a Nixon drop in '68 too, and an Ike drop in '53.)

Obfuscate some more. This is going to take increasing revenue--not wishful thinking.

Period.



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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:38:44 PM   
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Of course. That's why we're rolling in revenue!

Look, bottom line is still--debt is simply increasing without revenue as well as cuts.




Concession accepted.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:45:18 PM   
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Just close your eyes. Money will appear by magic.

Geez. Reagan really did a number on you guys.





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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/22/2011 9:49:47 PM   
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Of course. That's why we're rolling in revenue!

Look, bottom line is still--debt is simply increasing without revenue as well as cuts.

Tax RATES are markedly lower. And guess what? Your goalposts show falling revenue as well:



Note the Reagan drop in 1980, and the Bush drop in 2000. (There's a Nixon drop in '68 too, and an Ike drop in '53.)

Obfuscate some more. This is going to take increasing revenue--not wishful thinking.

Period.




They show revenue falls when the stock market falls and/or there are recesssions. Surprise surprise surprise. Not a fucking thing to do with tax policy. The greatest INCREASE in tax revenues came from Clintons capital gains tax CUTS. So the obfuscation is yours, my friend.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/23/2011 6:42:44 AM   
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Right.....there have never been great men who couldn't spell.....and typing ability has nothing to do with it......
Course ur so intelligent its a wonder u lower urself to spend time on these threads with such low life....and u must be clarvoint too, seeing as u can tell weather or not I read.....good for u....again I bow to ur hinny.
(Snicker) ooops don't u hate it when I use u instead of you?


Normally I never mention a poster's spelling because it is a moot point for me, I am more interested in what a person posts than if they can enter a spelling bee..... content is much more important. But, I will say that your lack of finesse with words as well as your inability to spell means many people will probably skip your posts. I don't read them very often because they make my eyes bleed. If you want to communicate the onus (burden) is on you to present what you write in a cogent (well grounded) manner. There are browsers out there that have a built in spell check, it would really help you, and anyone interested in reading you, if you used one of those browsers.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/23/2011 6:45:05 AM   
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Right.....there have never been great men who couldn't spell.....and typing ability has nothing to do with it......
Course ur so intelligent its a wonder u lower urself to spend time on these threads with such low life....and u must be clarvoint too, seeing as u can tell weather or not I read.....good for u....again I bow to ur hinny.
(Snicker) ooops don't u hate it when I use u instead of you?


Normally I never mention a poster's spelling because it is a moot point for me, I am more interested in what a person posts than if they can enter a spelling bee..... content is much more important. But, I will say that your lack of finesse with words as well as your inability to spell means many people will probably skip your posts. I don't read them very often because they make my eyes bleed. If you want to communicate the onus (burden) is on you to present what you write in a cogent (well grounded) manner. There are browsers out there that have a built in spell check, it would really help you, and anyone interested in reading you, if you used one of those browsers.



LMAO. You really dont know when she's doing it on purpose?

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/23/2011 6:46:08 AM   
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He hears, he just knows that his number 2 is waiting in the wings to usurp him, and the tea party freshmen don't like him.

In other words his personal position as speaker of the house is more important than his country


Having lived in Ohio when he was in the state legislature then, I can agree.

This is a man only concerned with his personal ambitions.



Boner isn't unlikable in many ways.. he has a certain amount of charm as long as he doesn't talk about politics ... I never had much respect for him, but I thought he was at least sane. Anyone who would cave to the Crazy Caucus within the House is either crazy themselves, or just plain old fashioned pussified and power hungry.... my vote is for the latter.


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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/23/2011 6:48:41 AM   
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LMAO. You really dont know when she's doing it on purpose?


I cannot fathom why anyone would want to appear to have dyslexia, and if she does my heart goes out to her, but there are aids for people with that problem... spell check is their friend...

If she was doing it on purpose, how would I know, I skip her posts because they are so poorly written they make my eyes bleed, and that is more than just the spelling, it is structural.

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RE: Boner walks out, it must be the weekend - 7/23/2011 7:02:55 AM   
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LMAO. You really dont know when she's doing it on purpose?


I cannot fathom why anyone would want to appear to have dyslexia, and if she does my heart goes out to her, but there are aids for people with that problem... spell check is their friend...

If she was doing it on purpose, how would I know, I skip her posts because they are so poorly written they make my eyes bleed, and that is more than just the spelling, it is structural.



Her structure isnt atypical for online writing. In fact the post that criticized her spelling used exactly the same structure. Her spelling in that post that was criticized was just fine, one character reversal and one contraction she invented. It was only when someone needed to impress himself and call her out that she posted the followup, riddled with errors.


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Reality of Debt Reduction - 7/23/2011 8:17:28 AM   
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The greatest INCREASE in tax revenues came from Clintons capital gains tax CUTS.


Cuts that are still in force today--irrelevant.

Dance all you want. Debt reduction, in fact, just balancing the budget, is going to take revenue increases.

You could eliminate ALL discretionary spending and eliminate medicare completely---and you STILL wouldn't have a balanced budget. You could eliminate all discretionary spending and completely cut social security--and you STILL wouldn't have a balanced budget. You could slash defense, social security, medicare, medicaid, and discretionary spending by a third--and you STILL wouldn't have a balanced budget. You could eliminate all discretionary spending and slash defense spending 80%--and you STILL wouldn't have a balanced budget.

Jesus Christ, do you frickin' get this? Spending cuts alone are NOT going to do this! You're in Disneyland. Spending cuts alone, even as severely overstated as above, as NOT going to balance the budget. Plans to rely on cuts alone, even severe ones, are going to STILL leave us with climbing debt, year after year after year.

Argue about what KIND of revenue increases, which taxes, on what, on whom, fine. I'd argue everyone--see that HUGE drop in the Bush years? Come on--you're saying now that the entire Bush presidency was a recession? Eliminate the Bush tax cuts--for everyone. Leave the capital gains tax--that's the only place I agree with you. Add a VAT. Raise payroll taxes a half a percent. Because without revenue increases---and not the fantasy "Oh we'll just grow our way out of a $1.27 trillion deficit" (let alone reducing the debt)--debt will continue to grow, year after year, and interest rates and inflation in its wake.

Wake the fuck up.




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