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FirmhandKY -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 8:49:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Please Lady the adults are talking.....you know ones who use actual words and go to the trouble to type them out.These are serious matters,not a discussion for children,or adults with lazy minds.


Mike, you ok?

That was really uncalled for, IMO.

Firm




slvemike4u -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 8:52:28 PM)

Obviously not in my opinion....and yes I'm okay,as a matter of fact I am fine.That was me being kind ,in a room full of partisans she makes everyone else seem moderate by comparison.
She really does need help.




WyldHrt -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:02:09 PM)

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When I was single, and without kids, I always thought it was pretty unfair, tax-wise, some of the "better deals" that such people got.

Did it get more fair when you got married and/ or had kids? (sorry, couldn't resist the obvious joke) [;)]




FirmhandKY -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:10:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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When I was single, and without kids, I always thought it was pretty unfair, tax-wise, some of the "better deals" that such people got.

Did it get more fair when you got married and/ or had kids? (sorry, couldn't resist the obvious joke) [;)]

Of course it did! [:D]

Where you stand, depends on where you sit, after all ...

Firm




WyldHrt -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:19:15 PM)

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Of course it did! [:D]
Can't fault your honesty there, LMAO! [:D]

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Where you stand, depends on where you sit, after all ...
How very true. That said, I have to admit a bit of annoyance at another poster who says she got a couple thousand dollars of someone else's money, then railed about how wrong it was.

Lady? Did you give that money back to help pay down the debt? You can do that, you know.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:19:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

It’s been clear to some of us for a while that Barack Obama is a man of uncommon self-admiration, quite thin-skinned, and increasingly consumed by his grievances., Obama has masked these traits pretty well so far...


No, he hasn't. It's been painfully obvious  - even excruciatingly obvious - almost from Day One of his Administration. This is a very weak, vain, arrogant bully of a man, miles out of his depth. He might have made a very good Senator someday, but he's just not presidential material. And I'm increasingly convinced he never would have been, even if he had done as many people suggested and spent a few more years seasoning himself in the Senate.

But, we're stuck with the useless bastard for at least 2 more years. God help us all.






slvemike4u -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:20:57 PM)

Do you really need to ask....allow me to go out on a limb and answer for her.....OF COURSE NOT !




WyldHrt -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:24:56 PM)

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Do you really need to ask

Not really, but the opportunity presented itself.




slvemike4u -> RE: Financial Reality (7/25/2011 9:27:21 PM)

LOL...yeah,asking was appropriate.




DomYngBlk -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 5:47:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

Ya know KY....it's this simple (I'm a Republican....so take note):

We need higher taxes....we've been living on a national credit card since Reagan (the Almighty economic savior.....balderdash).

We need lower spending (even though that's going to corrupt and devastate our economy via spending....obvious).

We need to pay more locally....count less on the feds.

And EVERYONE needs to pay something!

57% of the national tax base pays nothing.  (Don't ask me for the links...you can find them yourselves).

80% of the taxes (sue me) are paid by the wealthy.  And they're eager to pay more...but they want YOU...the average tax payer....to pay something.

At this point....anything at all would be a plus.

A VAT (Value Added Tax...essentially, a national sales tax) is the only logical approach.

The Democrats have spent the last 25 years getting all those below 40K a year (don't sue me....I know some of you earning that much pay something....but most of you don't...and with credits....you get money back) to pay nothing...or near it.

It's statistical fact.

The top 20% pay 98% of all taxes.

Ain't nothing wrong with that...they're earning the biggest catch.

I'm good with that.

They're good with that.

(You're probably good with that too).

But seriously folks....everyone should pay something.

Now....on to the bigger issue:

57% of the American population pay nothing.

(See above).

Zero.

Zip.

Nada.

Everyone should pay something.

We're all on this same fishboat.....everyone should pay for the opportunity to catch something....but few do.

They can do this with a curve, they can do this with a credit towards income below "X"......but everyone should pay something.

Too many are taking a free ride.

It just ain't fucking right.

Period.

And when it's all said and done...it should be done/written such that we spend (next year) 98% of what we took in.....

Last year.

Nice and simple.

Locked.

Ain't that complicated....spend less than you took in, assume that next year will be worse....spend less than last year....take the difference and put it towards debt.

Basic math.

JJ







Jesus Christ! It is Herbert Hoover come back from the dead......Hey hoover you can always suggest bringing back the repatration act....that really helped things....




Sanity -> New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles (7/26/2011 6:25:04 AM)

FR

New polls confirm Obama's Democratic base crumbles


Seems to be topical...









Sanity -> More Americans unhappy with Obama on economy, jobs (7/26/2011 6:27:37 AM)



More Americans unhappy with Obama on economy, jobs




FirmhandKY -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:30:29 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


Basic math.


Jesus Christ! It is Herbert Hoover come back from the dead......Hey hoover you can always suggest bringing back the repatration act....that really helped things....

Please provide specifics with your problem with what Lookie said, rather than simple histrionics.

Firm




DomYngBlk -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:40:35 AM)

History tends to repeat itself. cutting taxes, balancing budgets, taking people from this country and shoving them into another one....all helped in creating the Great Depression. Rhetoric from the right is trying to accomplish this feat once again. Roosevelts attacks on Hoover in 32 were no better which proved themselves out later in his term. We can all either learn from history and change or damn ourselves to repeat it over and over.




imperatrixx -> RE: More Americans unhappy with Obama on economy, jobs (7/26/2011 6:41:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity



More Americans unhappy with Obama on economy, jobs



From that link:

Roughly as many people blame Republican policies for the poor economy as they do Obama. But 65 percent disapprove of the GOP’s handling of jobs, compared to 52 percent for the president.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:47:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

History tends to repeat itself. cutting taxes, balancing budgets, taking people from this country and shoving them into another one....all helped in creating the Great Depression. Rhetoric from the right is trying to accomplish this feat once again. Roosevelts attacks on Hoover in 32 were no better which proved themselves out later in his term. We can all either learn from history and change or damn ourselves to repeat it over and over.

I don't follow your logic.

Here's one short list of the causes of the Great Depression:

Top 5 Causes of the Great Depression

1. Stock Market Crash of 1929

Many believe erroneously that the stock market crash that occurred on , October 29, 1929 is one and the same with the Great Depression. In fact, it was one of the major causes that led to the Great Depression. Two months after the original crash in October, stockholders had lost more than $40 billion dollars. Even though the stock market began to regain some of its losses, by the end of 1930, it just was not enough and America truly entered what is called the Great Depression.

2. Bank Failures

Throughout the 1930s over 9,000 banks failed. Bank deposits were uninsured and thus as banks failed people simply lost their savings. Surviving banks, unsure of the economic situation and concerned for their own survival, stopped being as willing to create new loans. This exacerbated the situation leading to less and less expenditures.

3. Reduction in Purchasing Across the Board

With the stock market crash and the fears of further economic woes, individuals from all classes stopped purchasing items. This then led to a reduction in the number of items produced and thus a reduction in the workforce. As people lost their jobs, they were unable to keep up with paying for items they had bought through installment plans and their items were repossessed. More and more inventory began to accumulate. The unemployment rate rose above 25% which meant, of course, even less spending to help alleviate the economic situation.

4. American Economic Policy with Europe

As businesses began failing, the government created the Smoot-Hawley Tariff in 1930 to help protect American companies. This charged a high tax for imports thereby leading to less trade between America and foreign countries along with some economic retaliation.

5. Drought Conditions

While not a direct cause of the Great Depression, the drought that occurred in the Mississippi Valley in 1930 was of such proportions that many could not even pay their taxes or other debts and had to sell their farms for no profit to themselves. The area was nicknamed "The Dust Bowl." This was the topic of John Steinbeck's The Grapes of Wrath.

I'm not sure what you said plays into any of these in any great amounts.

Firm




DomYngBlk -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:49:43 AM)

Nice list. wrong..but a nice list.




FirmhandKY -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:51:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Nice list. wrong..but a nice list.

That's it?

Firm




DomYngBlk -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:53:53 AM)

Yes, don't seem to be able to comprehend what I write. I thought I was pretty clear before......




lockedaway -> RE: Financial Reality (7/26/2011 6:55:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Nice list. wrong..but a nice list.
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I love how DomyoungBlack and say you are wrong, Firm....LookieNookie too....post NOTHING to support his stance but say you two are wrong.

Actually DYB, BOTH Firm and Lookie are 100% accurate although do not need to tax the smallest percentage of the population to pay for fuckers who don't pay a dime. Everyone has to kick into the kitty...that includes you and every other liberal on this board.




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