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lockedaway -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:51:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Raising taxes on everyone in this economy will not sit well. If it has to be done then Obama should be honest and take the lead. His 'millionares and billionares' class warfare speeches must end.

Yes, because the only class warfare being conducted in this country is that of the warfare being brought down on the poor and they are being routed.

As Buffet has informed, if there is class warfare in this country...his class is winning. I say...winning big.


THAT IS A RIDICULOUS POST!!  Thank you for illustrating EXACTLY what is wrong with the country.  You liberals feel entitled to other people's wealth to support yourselves.  It isn't "US" versus "THEM". Tell me what poor man ever gave you a job????  Tell me what rich man spent his money to keep you from getting a job? 

Someone who is smart, ambitious, driven, industrious, educated and successful is your sworn enemy.  Why?  Is it because you are none of those things?  Money begets money.  A successful man builds himself his own tiny empire and he passes that down to his children.  A lot of times that empire is lost because his children are self-entitled little fucks who mismanage it and waste it.  Sometimes, however, the second generation builds it up higher (it sounds like you are radically opposed to that) and sometimes the following generations do the same.  And what is wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it.  Well...why should you!  Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?  No man ever made money at my expense unless I willfully chose to spend my money for his product.  Got it??  No industrialist ever put his foot on my head and kept me down.  The ONLY entities that have ever made money at my expense have been the federal and state governments.

Quit your bitching.  The poor want money?  They work for the money they get, right?  It is called having a job, right?  A job is a privilege, right?  You can't demand to come and work me and no one can demand that you hire them, right???

What YOU want is for people who willingly choose NOT TO PARTICIPATE in our capitalist system and go out and bust their asses to get money handed to them.  That is an extreme position and one that is being advanced by your left wing, piece of shit president. 




rulemylife -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:52:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Raising taxes on everyone in this economy will not sit well. If it has to be done then Obama should be honest and take the lead. His 'millionares and billionares' class warfare speeches must end.


You know that old saying about the Devil's greatest triumph is convincing people he does not exist?

There is definitely class warfare going on, and it has been going on since Uncle Ronnie, but you are oblivious.

You are just thrilled with your AT&T pension and so grateful that you would vote for eliminating all taxes on those "job providers".

Sort of pathetic.





DarkSteven -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:52:39 AM)

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/21/bush.tax.cuts.expire/index.html

Norquist has allowed the GOP an out.  Per his definition, allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will not constitute a tax hike in his eyes.  I don't like the man and his methods, but he's showing at least some statesmanship and trying to ease the bind he's put the GOP in.  Now if only they'll listen....




farglebargle -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:53:33 AM)

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What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it. Well...why should you! Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?


If they don't want to use US Dollars, they can leave and go somewhere else. TAXES are the fees you pay for using US Dollars. The more you use, the more tax you owe.

Get it?

Or are you some sort of anarchist who wants to destroy the government?




Musicmystery -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:55:08 AM)

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It isn't "US" versus "THEM"


No, it's not...and you are just as culpable in that regard.




farglebargle -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:55:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Raising taxes on everyone in this economy will not sit well. If it has to be done then Obama should be honest and take the lead. His 'millionares and billionares' class warfare speeches must end.


You know that old saying about the Devil's greatest triumph is convincing people he does not exist?

There is definitely class warfare going on, and it has been going on since Uncle Ronnie, but you are oblivious.

You are just thrilled with your AT&T pension and so grateful that you would vote for eliminating all taxes on those "job providers".

Sort of pathetic.




AT&T? Last time I checked that was a Union Shop...




Musicmystery -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:56:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/21/bush.tax.cuts.expire/index.html

Norquist has allowed the GOP an out. Per his definition, allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire will not constitute a tax hike in his eyes. I don't like the man and his methods, but he's showing at least some statesmanship and trying to ease the bind he's put the GOP in. Now if only they'll listen....


I agree.

Good point, Steven.




lockedaway -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 7:59:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it. Well...why should you! Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?


If they don't want to use US Dollars, they can leave and go somewhere else. TAXES are the fees you pay for using US Dollars. The more you use, the more tax you owe.

Get it?

Or are you some sort of anarchist who wants to destroy the government?


WRONG.  A flat tax takes in a greater amount from those who make more money, does it not?  There is 47% of this country that pays no income tax.  Add the illegal population and you have millions more.  You don't want a flat tax and a federal sales tax because you will likely being paying taxes for the first time in your life.  It is time for the unsuccessful to kick into the kitty, boys and girls.  Stop arguing for punitive taxation because you have failed at the game of life.




lockedaway -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:02:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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It isn't "US" versus "THEM"


No, it's not...and you are just as culpable in that regard.


If you and someone like Mr. Rodgers are going to draw battle lines, than I am going to side with the people who worked the hardest for what they have gotten and what the libs on this board feel should be taken away.  Sure...if you people are going to make it a class warfare scenario, I am going to choose a side.  I choose the side of those who earned what they have rather than those who whine that they deserve something they are not entitled to.

P.S.  Let me tell you liberal failures something.  Technically, I work three jobs.  I have been working jobs since 1999.  Try it sometime and see how much fucking money you end up making.  Perhaps then you will be too wealthy and too busy to scratch at other people's doors.




Musicmystery -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:03:03 AM)

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If you and someone like Mr. Rodgers are going to draw battle lines


No, YOU keep drawing battle lines.




farglebargle -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:03:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it. Well...why should you! Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?


If they don't want to use US Dollars, they can leave and go somewhere else. TAXES are the fees you pay for using US Dollars. The more you use, the more tax you owe.

Get it?

Or are you some sort of anarchist who wants to destroy the government?


WRONG.  A flat tax takes in a greater amount from those who make more money, does it not?  There is 47% of this country that pays no income tax.  Add the illegal population and you have millions more.


Of course, you agree that income taxes aren't the only taxes. In fact when you cut services and raise contributions, that's exactly the same as a tax increase... except you fuck those who can least afford it.

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  You don't want a flat tax and a federal sales tax because you will likely being paying taxes for the first time in your life.  It is time for the unsuccessful to kick into the kitty, boys and girls.  Stop arguing for punitive taxation because you have failed at the game of life.


Like I said. You don't like AMERICA? Leave. Simple enough. If you're that wealthy, USE THE FUCKING FREE MARKET AND MOVE TO THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU GET THE BEST DEAL. Otherwise, why anyone would carry water for the wealthy while getting fucked themselves is beyond me. It's like stockholm syndrome or something....






farglebargle -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:05:20 AM)

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I choose the side of those who earned what they have


So, since INHERITED WEALTH is by defintion unearned income, you philosophically shouldn't have a problem with a 100% estate tax. You die and THEN you pay your taxes, which are all your assets. After all, your kids should be smart enough to take care of themselves, and if not, you know FUCK THEM...... Might simplify a lot of paperwork all around....




willbeurdaddy -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:06:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Obviously, a long term deal after Democrats regain control of the House is best for the US.


We cant wait till 2020.




rulemylife -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:07:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lockedaway

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Raising taxes on everyone in this economy will not sit well. If it has to be done then Obama should be honest and take the lead. His 'millionares and billionares' class warfare speeches must end.

Yes, because the only class warfare being conducted in this country is that of the warfare being brought down on the poor and they are being routed.

As Buffet has informed, if there is class warfare in this country...his class is winning. I say...winning big.


THAT IS A RIDICULOUS POST!!  Thank you for illustrating EXACTLY what is wrong with the country.  You liberals feel entitled to other people's wealth to support yourselves.  It isn't "US" versus "THEM". Tell me what poor man ever gave you a job????  Tell me what rich man spent his money to keep you from getting a job? 

Someone who is smart, ambitious, driven, industrious, educated and successful is your sworn enemy.  Why?  Is it because you are none of those things?  Money begets money.  A successful man builds himself his own tiny empire and he passes that down to his children.  A lot of times that empire is lost because his children are self-entitled little fucks who mismanage it and waste it.  Sometimes, however, the second generation builds it up higher (it sounds like you are radically opposed to that) and sometimes the following generations do the same.  And what is wrong with that?

What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it.  Well...why should you!  Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?  No man ever made money at my expense unless I willfully chose to spend my money for his product.  Got it??  No industrialist ever put his foot on my head and kept me down.  The ONLY entities that have ever made money at my expense have been the federal and state governments.

Quit your bitching.  The poor want money?  They work for the money they get, right?  It is called having a job, right?  A job is a privilege, right?  You can't demand to come and work me and no one can demand that you hire them, right???

What YOU want is for people who willingly choose NOT TO PARTICIPATE in our capitalist system and go out and bust their asses to get money handed to them.  That is an extreme position and one that is being advanced by your left wing, piece of shit president. 



People like you truly scare me.

It's the Fox, Limbaugh, Hannity mentality.

It's the Gordon Gekko mentality.

Normal people don't focus on greed.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:07:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

All he has to do is make more cuts, half the State Dept, end Energy, Education, EPA. End "foreign aid."
What seems to be his problem?
Hell he can cut the military too!
You'd have to talk to him personally to get any answers.


His problem is that he doesnt want any cuts to be pinned on him. Pure politics




willbeurdaddy -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:09:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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Taxing the rich will more won't solve the 14 trillion dollar dept problem we have in this country.


Rolling back the Bush Tax Cuts ( remember when we were told they were temporary??? If they're permanent, then the Bush Lied about them being temporary... ) would eliminate the deficit, and then we could use the surplus to pay down the debt.


ROFL with the "Bush lied" crap again. If Bush lied than so did the DEMOCRAT House and DEMOCRAT Senate. "Temporary" was done because they couldnt get Congress to agree to spending cuts then either.




lockedaway -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:09:52 AM)

quote:

Of course, you agree that income taxes aren't the only taxes. In fact when you cut services and raise contributions, that's exactly the same as a tax increase... except you fuck those who can least afford it.

quote:


You don't want a flat tax and a federal sales tax because you will likely being paying taxes for the first time in your life. It is time for the unsuccessful to kick into the kitty, boys and girls. Stop arguing for punitive taxation because you have failed at the game of life.



Like I said. You don't like AMERICA? Leave. Simple enough. If you're that wealthy, USE THE FUCKING FREE MARKET AND MOVE TO THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU GET THE BEST DEAL. Otherwise, why anyone would carry water for the wealthy while getting fucked themselves is beyond me. It's like stockholm syndrome or something....
quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle


quote:

ORIGINAL: lockedaway

quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

quote:

What is wrong with that is that YOU aren't getting any of it. Well...why should you! Answer that question. What makes you entitled to someone else's wealth?


If they don't want to use US Dollars, they can leave and go somewhere else. TAXES are the fees you pay for using US Dollars. The more you use, the more tax you owe.

Get it?

Or are you some sort of anarchist who wants to destroy the government?


WRONG.  A flat tax takes in a greater amount from those who make more money, does it not?  There is 47% of this country that pays no income tax.  Add the illegal population and you have millions more.


Of course, you agree that income taxes aren't the only taxes. In fact when you cut services and raise contributions, that's exactly the same as a tax increase... except you fuck those who can least afford it.

quote:


You don't want a flat tax and a federal sales tax because you will likely being paying taxes for the first time in your life.  It is time for the unsuccessful to kick into the kitty, boys and girls.  Stop arguing for punitive taxation because you have failed at the game of life.


Like I said. You don't like AMERICA? Leave. Simple enough. If you're that wealthy, USE THE FUCKING FREE MARKET AND MOVE TO THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU GET THE BEST DEAL. Otherwise, why anyone would carry water for the wealthy while getting fucked themselves is beyond me. It's like stockholm syndrome or something....





No...not Stockholm syndrome at all.  The top bracket after the major revision done by Reagan was 28% and that is where it is now.  Commie-Failure-Socialist LOSERS say that 35% isn't enough and it should go up to Clinton's insane 39.5%.  Why?  Well...because you people need cradle to grave services because you can't take care of yourselves.  THAT'S WHY!  You need this little subsidy and this little handout and this little entitlement because YOU ARE FAILURES!  Weak, lazy (lazy more than anything else), stupid, addicted, un-trainable and every other fucking flaw under the sun. 

The beauty of this country's current situation is that there isn't going to be enough money to support you swine anyway.  But at least when you are reduced to begging on the curb for charity, you will actually thank the people that give to you rather than hold them in such contempt.




Musicmystery -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:11:03 AM)

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There is 47% of this country that pays no income tax. Add the illegal population and you have millions more.


80% of that 47% make $16,000 or less. Not a treasure trove of revenue there. And any flat tax is going to exempt the poor, just as current tax does.

Nor are illegals going to kick in a fresh fortune. If they're working under the table, they aren't going to pay flat tax either.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/28/who-doesnt-pay-federal-income-taxes-legally/




willbeurdaddy -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:11:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Normal people don't focus on greed.



"Normal" people and every other animal have always focused on self-interest, and it is the most successful strategy in every area of civilzation. That you call it "greed" just shows that you are an idealogue who has no clue about reality.




Musicmystery -> RE: frustrated with President Obama (7/24/2011 8:12:12 AM)

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We cant wait till 2020.


Please communicate that to House leadership.




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