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Destinysskeins -> Female Supremacy (10/15/2004 10:04:20 AM)
Greetings, Ok, maybe i'm just a pot stirrer (or maybe i'm just really tired and think people pseudo-flaming each other might wake me up a bit [;)] ) considering all the uglies that have appeared in a similar post but i am a bit curious to the background behind Female Supremacy. So, in the desire to leave the past difficulties behind and begin a friendly discussion of this theory/way of life/however you see it i'm starting it out on a fresh post. Anywho, we've had a lot of discussion about the theories/backing/foundation/etc of Male Dominance so i'd like to hear everyone's thoughts upon it's opposite.

perverseangelic -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/15/2004 1:47:13 PM)
I think it's just as bad an idea as male supremacy. Or white supremacy. Or black supremacy. Or heterosexual or homosexual supremacy. I think any theory that places one group above others becaues of some in-born, non-chosen trait is a bad plan. I think that dominance and submission in relationships, should be based on what a person chooses, not their gender. I do not believe one -should- be, or is more inclined to be one way or another becuase of a biological occurence.

LadyAngelika -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/15/2004 5:35:03 PM)
quote: i am a bit curious to the background behind Female Supremacy I am not into Female Supremacy. But a good source if you want to read about people with this point of view is http://www.femalesuperiority.com/ To be quite honest, I've said it now and I'll say it again, anyone who feels they need to put down someone to make themselves feel superior is demontrating perhaps one of the greatest signs of insecurity. - LA

addicted2it -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/15/2004 6:00:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Destinysskeins Greetings, Ok, maybe i'm just a pot stirrer (or maybe i'm just really tired and think people pseudo-flaming each other might wake me up a bit [;)] ) considering all the uglies that have appeared in a similar post but i am a bit curious to the background behind Female Supremacy. So, in the desire to leave the past difficulties behind and begin a friendly discussion of this theory/way of life/however you see it i'm starting it out on a fresh post. Anywho, we've had a lot of discussion about the theories/backing/foundation/etc of Male Dominance so i'd like to hear everyone's thoughts upon it's opposite. With all due respect to the Femme Dommes who regularly monitor these messages, i am as submissive/slave, have fantasies which involve Female Supremacy. i am not sure if these fantasies should be made public or not, but i have at least admitted to having them. So, with this thought in mind, and with certain other groups (SM Church, etc.), seem very enticing to a submissive/slave who might be vulnerable to his need to be dominated by a Female (or Females). i believe that many of us confuse the fantasy with the reality, and therefore cannot go through the rituals necessary to satisfy these groups. i believe that it requires education and self-examination to achieve what each one of us is seeking, wheter it be a Dom/Domme/submissive/slave relationship with a partner or partners. In a "free society," we have the option of choosing our lifestyle preferences. However, we absolutely MUST examine our willingness to participate in full Female Supremacy or to not participate. And while it would be prefect to find EXACTLY what each of us is seeking, Female Supremacy may not be for everyone. So, it is my recomendation to examine all of the prerequisites to being a total slave to a Female Supremacist, and then to make up one's on mind as to what it is that they are willing to give of themselves. With respect to all, philip

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/15/2004 10:36:03 PM)
Hello Destiny, This probably won't answer your question. I tend to hold a well rounded Lady in higher regard (not sexually, as am all hetero), but my feeling is that we (humans) are born with certain traits; how much we feed into it/live it depends on how flexible/open we are, and how complementary are the counterparts we meet. If a strong Dominant personality is the right fit for a more submissive/strong personality, it's all good; so the extent to which each person decides to engage in play/lifestyle is each person's choice... It's 1am, I may be babbling; forgive me if this doesn't make sense... Yes, of course I'm biased!... lol Good night all. Lady in RI

LadyAngelika -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/16/2004 7:44:50 AM)
quote: i am as submissive/slave, have fantasies which involve Female Supremacy. This is interesting. During a chat with a submissive man last night, he told me that even if I didn't consider myself superior to him, he considered me superior to him. Let's do a little logic test. Earlier in this thread, I wrote "anyone who feels they need to put down someone to make themselves feel superior is demontrating perhaps one of the greatest signs of insecurity." Is the fact that this boy feels inferior to me giving him some security? I told him to stop bestowing on me "qualities" and "honorifics" which I never asked for. Yet he insisted that in his mind it would always be this way. This irks me on many levels because I have found myself in certain relationship dynamics where I was looking forward towards the future and my partner wasn’t looking forward at all but rather gazing right at me. This was not only frustrating, but it put the onus on me to make all the best decisions for both of us as he had chosen to become useless and gaga. He had put me so high on a pedestal that I felt if I tried to step off, I’d break my neck! I know I’m a strong, well-rounded and grounded person. But a sure way a guy will get a kick in the nuts from me is to tell me I’m perfect. This kind of projection akin to that I see in Female supremacy is too easy an escape. You can sit back and never have to take control of your life or be accountable for your actions, much in the same way as people who say they do things in the name of God. So yeah, not only do I not believe that I’m superior but I think that any boy trying to bestow superiority on me is one I need to get as far away from if I do not want to get the life sucked out of me. That said, someone can be in awe of the strength one has, have a great deal of respect for their knowledge, wisdom or experience or just be impressed with a person in general without having to venerate them as dieties. Besides, I have met too many twit girls, too many exceptional gentlemen and so many fabulous transgendered individuals, all of them blow holes right through this so called female supremacy/superiority theory. - LA

LadyBeckett -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/16/2004 8:31:40 AM)
That's what I was thinking too.

MaitresseEden -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/16/2004 4:26:46 PM)
opps

MaitresseEden -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/16/2004 4:33:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden Wow.. loaded topic. Are woman supreme? Are Men Supreme? I don't think it is something that can be answered in simple black and white terms. Much of the problem with the entire topic lie in the dichotomous nature of it. I often tell people that being Pro-choice does not make a person Anti- life, and vice versa. Just as being a "christian" doesn't make a person a conservative" For many who embrace, gynarchy or female supremacy it comes as a direct result to centuries of Patriarchial dominance. ( or in the case of gynarchy the long history of matriarchial worship) Again, here we see that diachotomous thinking creeping in by saying that to respond to one form of domiance you must have another. (Very reminiscint of the one hand on top of the other up a baseball bat race for power.) While the history of patriarchial dominance is well documented, There is also much evidence of matriarchal dominance in some cultures and in varied degrees that can be traced back to pagen time, and mythological times, as well as matriachal cultures that exist present day. Much were destroyed by the subjugation of woman through organized religion. ( if you can control the sexuality of woman, you then in turn control the sexuality of men, and thus gain control of the populas) I digress, that is another topic.. moving on..... . To say that one sex is superior to another is a sweeping generalization. However it is factually possible to say that one sex is better and a specific thing or demonstrates more agility or stability in areas statistically over the other. Countless number of studies have been done as to the differences between the sexes. However what it important to understand is the means by which you compare them. Do I think That I am a superior woman? yes!. I do. However that does not preclude the existence of superior men. Nor does that mean I am not cognizant that I am, in some areas inferior. Be they males, or females, depending on the variable being measuered I may be superior or inferior. T This is called "Multiple intelligences" and it is important to recognizes that they exisit. One of the largest problems with this topic is that often arguments are made in terms of generalizations, in lieu of specifics, and for this topic it is necessariily to speak in terms of concrete measurable variables. Anyway.. In a nutshell, in my personal opinion "superiority" comes from self awareness, and enlightenment and the more aware a person is of them self and thier relation to others, the more "superior" they are. Ms. Eden

ShadeDiva -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/17/2004 3:19:58 AM)
I wouldn't and don't mind playing on that as a fetish or as part of a scene. I explored it, and found that I simply didn't really like it and it didn't suit me - I'm too human, I make mistakes, I have flaws, and I'm okay with that fact. I expect my play partners to be okay with the fact i am not deity type as well, lol. It's fun as a once in a blue moon sort of thing. On a regular basis I found it irritating and annoying. JMO. ~ShadeDiva

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/17/2004 4:26:17 PM)
I am a believer in Female Supremacy in many areas. But I do not have to put someone down to prove it. I am too Superior to have to stoop that low! lol I have male Dom friends, and We get along just fine. But in a relationship with a submissive/slave male, they have to automatically accept that I am the Superior Gender to them. If they have difficulty with this, then a 24/7 relationship will not work out. I do not expect constant groveling, and low self-esteem. I encourage pride in the choice to be submissive to a Woman. If you don't want this, then you are not submissive. Of course, I am speaking of a 24/7 live-in slave situation. As a submissive or slave, you boys are the ones who began to say that Females are Superior. There have been many Matriarchal Societies throughout history. I am human, I make mistakes, I seek the knowledge of others, even submissives/slaves, in areas where they are more knowledgeable than Myself. Do I want to go to war? No! Do I think there would be less warefare if Woman were in charge? Yes. Read Jean Auel's Earth's Children Series. The Councils of Sisters always wielded the most power and made the final decisions, when laws or acceptable behavior rules were broken. Judgement was swift, yet loving, nurturing and for the good of the law breakers. Not so different from the M/s relationship.

LadyAngelika -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/18/2004 8:01:07 PM)
quote: It's fun as a once in a blue moon sort of thing. On a regular basis I found it irritating and annoying. My sentiments exactly Shade! Not only is annoying when someone considers themselves superior, but it's annoying when someone considers me superior. Go figure. - LA

GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/18/2004 9:23:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika quote: i am a bit curious to the background behind Female Supremacy To be quite honest, I've said it now and I'll say it again, anyone who feels they need to put down someone to make themselves feel superior is demontrating perhaps one of the greatest signs of insecurity. - LA Well, see, in the context of the lifestyle, I do believe in Female Supremacy with My male slaves. But I don't put anybody down to feel Superior. I simply am. But I am a very nurtring person. I do not feel threatened or insecure. I can be Superior and still be caring and loving.

Sinergy -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/19/2004 9:02:24 AM)
quote: I think any theory that places one group above others becaues of some in-born, non-chosen trait is a bad plan. I believe that is referred to as the circumstantial logical fallacy, or possibly the ad hominem. And on that note, I am a strong proponent of "Feline Supremacy" even when I am giving mine a bath. It is all good. Sinergy

Destinysskeins -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/19/2004 10:44:10 AM)
Greetings, Thanks to all that have replied on this topic. I thoroughly enjoyed reading some of the different viewpoints present and i do admit that i find it interesting that not one poster mentioned any sort of hereditary/genetic/evolutionary predisposition to Dominance in Females unlike the discussions which took place regarding Male Dominance. Different thought patterns, perhaps? shrugs Ah, well - ya just never know. Well wishes!

LadyAngelika -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/19/2004 2:37:25 PM)
quote: I am a strong proponent of "Feline Supremacy" even when I am giving mine a bath. Me too! His majesty sends his warmest regards Sinergy. And it's nice to see you back on the boards. - LA

ShadeDiva -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/19/2004 10:30:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Destinysskeins I thoroughly enjoyed reading some of the different viewpoints present and i do admit that i find it interesting that not one poster mentioned any sort of hereditary/genetic/evolutionary predisposition to Dominance in Females unlike the discussions which took place regarding Male Dominance. Oooooooooh give it time. lol! Someone will at some point. I have yet to hear of a debate/group discussion about gender superiority of either gender that doesn't spew out studies, historical references, ancient cultures, animal social structures, etc. to support their case. ~ShadeDiva

smile2cu -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/20/2004 1:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold I am a believer in Female Supremacy in many areas. But I do not have to put someone down to prove it. I am too Superior to have to stoop that low! lol I have male Dom friends, and We get along just fine. But in a relationship with a submissive/slave male, they have to automatically accept that I am the Superior Gender to them. If they have difficulty with this, then a 24/7 relationship will not work out. I do not expect constant groveling, and low self-esteem. I encourage pride in the choice to be submissive to a Woman. If you don't want this, then you are not submissive. Of course, I am speaking of a 24/7 live-in slave situation. As a submissive or slave, you boys are the ones who began to say that Females are Superior. There have been many Matriarchal Societies throughout history. I am human, I make mistakes, I seek the knowledge of others, even submissives/slaves, in areas where they are more knowledgeable than Myself. I'm a sub male, and I love pleasing women, and would do almost anything to do so. But still I don't really, on an intellectual level, believe they're superior. I've often wondered how to reconcile these attitudes, which certainly seem at odds. I'd much rather think in terms of equality as people. But that leaves why I want to please them so much. Incidently, by listening and practice, they tell me I'm pretty good at it.[sm=rolleyes.gif] Any thoughts? ~smile~

dixiedumpling -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/21/2004 1:04:24 PM)
Perhaps the only way to justify anything is by using the economics theory of supply and demand. If there were no demand for female supremacy, there wouldn't be any. What would be your outlet for your desire/talent if there were no demand for Dommes?

Destinysskeins -> RE: Female Supremacy (10/21/2004 1:35:59 PM)
i'm really not all too certain that the supply vs demand theory really suits this topic. If there were no demand for this would it not still occur? i believe so. i think that most agree that their Dominance (and the counterpart submission) is a basic need for them. For many people being Dominant is not something that They want/like to do but rather something that They are and which is a necessary part of Themselves. So, if there were no need for it would They not still seek outlets for it - rather that be Dominanting things in other areas of Their lives (work, business, etc) or perhaps through an abusive situation with a partner (ok, i'm not saying that pent up Dominance results in DV but in some instances i can see how it could happen). Last argument - is there a supply for rape? Does it not still occur?

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