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CrappyDom -> St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 8:37:20 AM)
I have recieved a commission to construct a St. Catherines Wheel. I did a quick google search and came up empty handed. Since many in the scene are not 105 pound girls, this thing needs to be stout and preferably portable (not easily but they don't want to bolt it to the wall) so I am looking for info on how to make the pivot, how to make one be stable, etc. Thanks in advance, Michael

Slipstreme -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 10:09:24 AM)
Wish I knew. I hope to construct one myself some day.

Bearlee -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 10:23:13 AM)
Michel_R (on Alt) built one for his club in Colorado. If you don't belong to Alt, you could contact him through their club's website: http://www.EnclaveWest.com/ He's a really nice guy...I bet he'd be happy to help ya.

LadyHugs -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 10:38:02 AM)
Dear CrappyDom, Ladies and Gentlemen; Saint Catherine's Wheel was created as a torture device in England. It is a round wheel patterned after the Ox Wheel of large carts hauled by Oxen. This wheel was then modified for circus performers, the spin the wheel and toss axes and knives at the lady spread eagled on the wheel. That said, the only individual to whom had a successful St. Catherine's Wheel is Frazier of The Crucible. His website is at: www.the-crucible.com He has made it years back, having very heavy women and men on it. Electrical motor drove the wheel as to put people into different positions, etc. Respectfully submitted for consideration, Lady Hugs

stef -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 10:58:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs That said, the only individual to whom had a successful St. Catherine's Wheel is Frazier of The Crucible. Really? I've been in the presence of roughly a dozen of successful St. Catherines Wheels, 'tested' three of them and built one. CD, I'll try and dig up the drawings I made when I was working out the design. ~stef

LadyHugs -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:06:50 AM)
Dear stef; Maybe others in my travels had theirs hidden. I would have loved to have seen the ones you mentioned. Respectfully submitted, Lady Hugs

JohnWarren -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:14:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs That said, the only individual to whom had a successful St. Catherine's Wheel is Frazier of The Crucible. Really? I've been in the presence of roughly a dozen of successful St. Catherines Wheels, 'tested' three of them and built one. CD, I'll try and dig up the drawings I made when I was working out the design. ~stef Yup, Robert and Abby in Maryland have one as does LadyJ in Massachusetts. I'd say there are a bunch of them around. The tricky thing is bracing the axle and bearing for the unbalanced load. It's not like sticking a nail through a wheel and into a wall

CrappyDom -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:15:55 AM)
Lady Hugs, Nothing like making universal statements to get your ass handed to you. This may come as a surprise to you but the world doesn't revolve around you nor does it stop at the edge of your vision. I don't think I would find you more annoying if you had a stap on and were trying to bugger me in the ass. (edited to add, I know I shouldn't rant like this but she annoys me worse than if I was chained to a PC and forced to listen to fingernails on a chalk board and had to watch chatroom BS in a GOR room or listen to "subbie sisters" pass "huggles" back and forth, all while bragging about whos protection collar they got in the last five minutes")

stef -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:27:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren Yup, Robert and Abby in Maryland have one as does LadyJ in Massachusetts. I'd say there are a bunch of them around. Robert's is one of the ones I've been on. I had lovely marks from those red straps that lasted for nearly a week sigh. He's an evil man with an amazing 'basement.' ~stef

CrappyDom -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:33:04 AM)
Thanks to everyone who has provided helpful info and I apologize about the tantrum...rgggg. The place I am doing this for is really special and I want to make nice one. Funny how the East coast does tend to have nicer play spaces, if I was a sociology major, it would definitely make for an interesting thesis.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:33:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren Yup, Robert and Abby in Maryland have one Yeah that's what I was thinking since that's the only one I've actually seen. There's certainly not one at the Crucible now.

stef -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:33:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs Dear stef; Maybe others in my travels had theirs hidden. I would have loved to have seen the ones you mentioned. A little creative Googling will produce several different styles that people are offering for sale as well as photos of various ones in use. ~stef

LadyHugs -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 11:58:45 AM)
Dear LuckyAlbatross, Frazier had his Saint Catherine's Wheel up and working when he had it at Tracks. Robert and Abby come occassionally to all of the locations The Crucible has occupied. I'm sure they may have discussed chatted about the matter. Respectfully submitted, Lady Hugs

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 12:37:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs Dear LuckyAlbatross, Frazier had his Saint Catherine's Wheel up and working when he had it at Tracks. Robert and Abby come occassionally to all of the locations The Crucible has occupied. I'm sure they may have discussed chatted about the matter. Respectfully submitted, Lady Hugs OK the one I saw was in Robert's house. I was just pointing out it's not in the Crucible now so people don't come and expect it to be there.

LadyHugs -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/19/2006 2:38:10 PM)
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen; I wrote to Robert and he kindly responded and gave permission for me to post his reply. [Excerpt]... Turns out if you do the math, that most of the load on a wheel is vertical, regardless of the size of the person secured to it. I used an axle from a front wheel drive car, and welded a large steel plate onto it. I then sandwiched the plate between layers of 2x6 lumber, with carriage bolts at every intersection. As an added measure, I added a small idler wheel mounted on the wall at the 6 o'clock position, IE the bottom. To prevent the wheel from bending toward the wall. The wheel has carried some very large folks with no difficulties. But then it's bolted to a concrete wall, and weighs hundreds of pounds, more than anyone who might wish to ride. > And, may I have the permission to copy and paste your wisdom on the matter > on Collarme.com sure. -- Best Regards, Robert

WeeIttyBitty -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/20/2006 12:29:51 AM)
I used to make Satellite Dish stands you know back in the C-Band days, when dishes where 8 10 or even 12 feet across. (the little ones you see now are Ku -band - Pronounced Q) This relates to the problem at hand... One of these dishes would weigh in at around 200 - 320 lbs, but because they where so large wind loads become a problem thus it is difficult to predict how much weight would actually be on one leg of the stand at any given time... You have a similar problem. There are 2 simple solutions one elegant, the other ugly... The simple solution is to bolt it to the wall... The ugly solution will be something like this.... A steel pyramid stand with a pivot at the apex of the pyramid. The pyramid should stand 3 1/2 feet to 4 feet tall.. At each of the 3 corners that are along the floor, you should put a pad or leg that weights (each) 300 lbs or so... (the one on the back leg should weigh more if possible) We're over engineering because we have an uncertain weight, with uncertain forces suddenly shifting that weight. We want the center of gravity to be as low to the floor as possible, and in the center or to the rear of the pyramid - to prevent the pyramid from tipping... Woa --- hold the phone... Better Idea just occurred to me... Get 2 steel telescoping support beams - you know the type of things that go into a basement to hold up the house? ... (hopefully this is going into a basement) put both beams close together, and under a floor joist, once they're secured in place, bolt the pivot in between the 2 beams... then bolt your wheel thru the pivot... The pivot and bearings you could get from princes auto, which sells all kind of auto supplies, including all the gear necessary to build your own utility trailers... The pivot you want would be the wheel bearing for a small utility trailer - good for up to 1200 lbs... That, I think is an outstanding idea -

slaveofdarkhold -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/23/2006 7:32:49 AM)
I've only ever heard of a St Catherine's wheel as a firework. For a few seconds there I was really alarmed wondering how on earth you were going to use that in BDSM! [8\|]

WeeIttyBitty -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/23/2006 8:13:15 PM)
Ya. that would really hurt.

Lordandmaster -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/23/2006 11:09:07 PM)
There's one in a cute place in Trenton I know... quote: ORIGINAL: JohnWarren I'd say there are a bunch of them around.

casey -> RE: St Catherines Wheel? (5/27/2006 7:46:54 AM)
Is this a St. Caherines Wheel?? If it is, oh my.....it is a ton of fun. http://www.patriciamarsh.com/equipment/wheel.php

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