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Real0ne -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 10:02:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

IMO the corporate party did this to us.



IMO your views are beyond delusional.

I know.   Lucky for me...   precious metals have done pretty well during this  (cough)  recession.    YES


Finally got into gold, in my own way. I will stay in it until it is six figures and...it will be.

Yes, the repubs much more than the dems tend to side with the investor class and have done and are doing, their bidding. Huge deficits handed to Obama they and that 'forced' him to continue the 'temporary' tax cuts was the big clue.


just a word of caution, there is no such thing as an invcstment, thats been out the window since nixon.




Real0ne -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 10:04:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/08/05/2-trillion-error-in-sp-calculations-us-treasury/

they are off by 2 trillion $



like I been saying we are well on our way to being a 3rd world country.

we were baughty and they took all the good jobs away




willbeurdaddy -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 10:17:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A 2 trillion dollar error... wonder how that will play.


It wont play at all. The "error" is no more than different assumptions on the economy. Geithner has no cards to play. Ive negotiated with Moody's on one of their ratings methodologies on behalf of a client that is clearly wrong. Doesnt matter, they still use it. There WILL be major cuts in November or the impact of a downgrade will become real.




tazzygirl -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 10:25:01 PM)

On that I agree with... there will be real cuts... or real rating reductions.  Lets just hope both sides are listening.




outhere69 -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 11:03:30 PM)

If we had a BBA, we wouldn't have been able to go to war without raising taxes.  You know, like we used to.




Real0ne -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 11:21:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

If we had a BBA, we wouldn't have been able to go to war without raising taxes.  You know, like we used to.


yeh but the constitution is asswipe what good will putting another amendment on it do for anyone?

The crooked assed supreme court abolished individual rights agreed upon in the 10 amendments before the fuckign ink was dry!

They break all the contracts (treaties) with the indians.

They control both sides of the contract!

Last time I shecked that is a fucking dictatorship no matter how many agencies they subdivide the shit into.









tazzygirl -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/5/2011 11:32:52 PM)

Sort of like Monopoly Capitalism




hapistan -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 1:41:12 AM)

this is hilarious. as someone who genuinely hates america and americans I'm happy this has started. please keep electing your cranks. please keep rejecting normality.




SilverMark -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 2:37:31 AM)

hapistan, it's ok to hate America, I am certain we could learn to dislike you as well!

S&P's magic number for not downgrading was 4 Trillion, which was the BIG DEAL that Obama and Boehner had worked on TOGETHER.

Now, who was it that didn't want to accept that deal?

I know, it was the Senate....right?...no, that wasn't it...It was Obama, I'm sure that's it....OOps wrong again...What's the name of that group,...oh you know...named after

something to do with the Revolution....damn why can't I think of it....Oh yes....the Tea Party freshman in the house....that was the group. who'd rather hold us all hostage,

yes, those guys! The ones who wanted to delay any action for another year just to put the same argument in the middle of the election, just to play politics!

Yes, such wise people they are, nothing better than stopping a process that should have been perfunctory, to show the world their great leadership, to let the country be

held in limbo while they were busy sucking Grover Norquist's cock! Yep, blame Obama, blame Boehner, but the deal was there and it stopped when Boehner couldn't deliver

his own caucus due to one groups inabaility to see past their own ignorance.




hapistan -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:01:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

hapistan, it's ok to hate America, I am certain we could learn to dislike you as well!

S&P's magic number for not downgrading was 4 Trillion, which was the BEG DEAL that Obama and Boehner had worked on TOGETHER.

Now, who was it that didn't want to accept that deal?

I know, it was the Senate....right?...no, that wasn't it...It was Obama, I'm sure that's it....OOps wrong again...What's the name of that group,...oh you know...named after




my god. have you not even read the statement. you. you personally are part of the problem.
the bizzare binary nature of your politics is the reason for the downgrade, not all this nonsense you are writing.
theres for instance a particularly scathing part in the report about an unwillingness to raise taxes. you don't see this. the reason you got downgraded is not even that republicans and democrats couldn't agree, its because the american people are infants and have the infantile politics they deserve.




rulemylife -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:16:59 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Our spending is unsustainable

There arent enough of "the rich" to tax enough to keep us afloat at this rate of spending

But such basic facts, no matter how clearly and precisely they are presented, remain far above certain peoples comprehension levels




I guess they were far above Reagan's and Cheney's comprehension levels too.

Do I really need to present you with the deficits don't matter quotes yet again?




SilverMark -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:17:43 AM)

If you aren't here...GOOD! If you are, leave...we won't miss you, I promise!




tweakabelle -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:29:25 AM)

I've wondered why no one has examined the role of the rating agencies in all of this. They made a big mess of things in the GFC and subprime crisis (remember who gave gold plated ratings to all those valueless sub prime mortgages?). Who are these people? Why do people pay such attention to them?

Someone at the Nation magazine has taken a close look and the results are very interesting. You can check it out here.

According to the article, S & P might have some reasons of its own for downgrading the US's credit rating.




Politesub53 -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:31:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

It will have zero impact economically. It is another black eye for the Obama adminstration that pleaded its case in a nearly 4 hour meeting and got nowhere.


Agreed, being downgraded will have the worlds investors battering your door down. [8|]




rulemylife -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:32:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hapistan


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

hapistan, it's ok to hate America, I am certain we could learn to dislike you as well!

S&P's magic number for not downgrading was 4 Trillion, which was the BEG DEAL that Obama and Boehner had worked on TOGETHER.

Now, who was it that didn't want to accept that deal?

I know, it was the Senate....right?...no, that wasn't it...It was Obama, I'm sure that's it....OOps wrong again...What's the name of that group,...oh you know...named after




my god. have you not even read the statement. you. you personally are part of the problem.
the bizzare binary nature of your politics is the reason for the downgrade, not all this nonsense you are writing.
theres for instance a particularly scathing part in the report about an unwillingness to raise taxes. you don't see this. the reason you got downgraded is not even that republicans and democrats couldn't agree, its because the american people are infants and have the infantile politics they deserve.


Would that be anything like your infantile lack of proper grammar and punctuation?




SilverMark -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:33:26 AM)

There are a lot of questions to be asked of Standard and Poor's...seems they can add very well!
http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/-2-trillion-error-S-P-afp-975808764.html?x=0




Termyn8or -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:38:28 AM)

"It will have zero impact economically."

Y'know I hate to just come out and say it, but you have no fucking idea of what you are talking about. You seem to have tons of book learning but not one iota of common sense.

And, after 1997, that is no longer a putdown.

T^T




hapistan -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:41:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: hapistan


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

hapistan, it's ok to hate America, I am certain we could learn to dislike you as well!

S&P's magic number for not downgrading was 4 Trillion, which was the BEG DEAL that Obama and Boehner had worked on TOGETHER.

Now, who was it that didn't want to accept that deal?

I know, it was the Senate....right?...no, that wasn't it...It was Obama, I'm sure that's it....OOps wrong again...What's the name of that group,...oh you know...named after




my god. have you not even read the statement. you. you personally are part of the problem.
the bizzare binary nature of your politics is the reason for the downgrade, not all this nonsense you are writing.
theres for instance a particularly scathing part in the report about an unwillingness to raise taxes. you don't see this. the reason you got downgraded is not even that republicans and democrats couldn't agree, its because the american people are infants and have the infantile politics they deserve.


Would that be anything like your infantile lack of proper grammar and punctuation?



hi, and thanks for your question.
its actually a completely different thing. now. shhhh. can you hear that? its the whole world laughing at you.




rulemylife -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:41:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

just a word of caution, there is no such thing as an invcstment, thats been out the window since nixon.



No kidding Mr. Wizard?

Then how are some of us actually turning a profit on those investments that don't exist?






rulemylife -> RE: S&P downgrades U.S. credit rating for first time (8/6/2011 3:53:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: hapistan


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: hapistan


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

hapistan, it's ok to hate America, I am certain we could learn to dislike you as well!

S&P's magic number for not downgrading was 4 Trillion, which was the BEG DEAL that Obama and Boehner had worked on TOGETHER.

Now, who was it that didn't want to accept that deal?

I know, it was the Senate....right?...no, that wasn't it...It was Obama, I'm sure that's it....OOps wrong again...What's the name of that group,...oh you know...named after




my god. have you not even read the statement. you. you personally are part of the problem.
the bizzare binary nature of your politics is the reason for the downgrade, not all this nonsense you are writing.
theres for instance a particularly scathing part in the report about an unwillingness to raise taxes. you don't see this. the reason you got downgraded is not even that republicans and democrats couldn't agree, its because the american people are infants and have the infantile politics they deserve.


Would that be anything like your infantile lack of proper grammar and punctuation?



hi, and thanks for your question.
its actually a completely different thing. now. shhhh. can you hear that? its the whole world laughing at you.


Yet we still haven't learned to use capital letters and proper punctuation.

It's one thing to make mistakes and typos, it's quite another to be willfully ignorant.




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