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Anaxagoras -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:13:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
He is just a government apologist, doing everything in their power hold up the delusion.

Never anything real.  They use their intelligence to distort and misrepresent every thing in a "plausible" manner to smooth over the atrocities that governments do against the people.

Its what they do.

on every board out here lol

What a surprise, the old tactic every one of these conspiracists go to when all else fails!

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Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:13:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

There is not a 20 minute time lag.  Not on live TV.  


100 posts from now they will repeat the same shit ad hominen even though they are incorrect.  They simply do not care.  Its about repeat bullshit long enough and people will simply accept it.






Rule -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:14:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
I didn't dismiss the 9/11 troofer claims, I considered them, looked at the debunker replies and saw their explanations were stronger.

Stop pulling in stuff that is extraneous to this thread. You don't hear me talking about the mating habits of penguins either, do you?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
No people who look for probable explanations because they are likely to be the truth are sane, quite unlike yourself.

Why, thank you. It is better to be insane, you know, if one wants to discern truth.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
What a shame it is that you look like one of those individuals in some respects.

Not at all. It reflects rather well on them, I would think.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Wow Rule is a mind reading parrot expert too... [:D]

I have an interest - albeit rather weak - in ethology.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
I don't think so. You lobbed quite a few personal attacks on my character.

Oh? You cannot think independently and lack creativity. How is that an attack on your character? It is merely who you are. There are billions of people just like you.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Not at all, you claim to be an expert on foreskins so I thought you would take it as a compliment! [:D] It is way nicer than Moon's "Foreskin Boy" is it not?

I don't mind. It is just that it seemed a rather desperate and ill-considered move on your part.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Avatar came out years later. CGI in many cases looks realistic but not completely so especially with regard to natural movement.

Denial that video material can be tampered with. I see. Indeed, not an expert.




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:18:11 AM)

Another great tactic is jeering and name calling when they have been cornered proven wrong and there is no where to turn.


properly designed buildings do not freefall!  ever never! cant happen! its impossible.

the governemnt admitted freefall, therefore admitted demolition as if all the civilian testimony was not enough.




Anaxagoras -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:19:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy
There is not a 20 minute time lag.  Not on live TV.  

100 posts from now they will repeat the same shit ad hominen even though they are incorrect.  They simply do not care.  Its about repeat bullshit long enough and people will simply accept it.

Funny, thats exactly what I repeatedly said you were doing. Tell fibs until they become truisms! Its a classic conspiracist strategy.




mnottertail -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:22:31 AM)

bullshit and asswipe. you are absolutely wrong, you are absolutely cornered until you can come up with a testable and result getting theory that defies einsteins general theory of relativity, and einsteins special theory of relativity to boot.

that is, you need to come up with something that defies gravity and acceleration.




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:22:36 AM)

The funniest part of their whole position is that the governments own position is a conspiracy theory.

Does anyone here me laughing my ass off yet?




Anaxagoras -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:22:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Another great tactic is jeering and name calling when they have been cornered proven wrong and there is no where to turn.

So I guess you weren't being abusive at all! [8|] I remind you of how abusive you were to Julia in the last thread as well which actually led to me getting involved with this loony debate.

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properly designed buildings do not freefall!  ever never! cant happen! its impossible.

the governemnt admitted freefall, therefore admitted demolition as if all the civilian testimony was not enough.

You're doing it again... [:D] - they only acknowledged that it was in free-fall for 1/8th of its descent but their figures were correct, they merely clarified that point after public consultation.




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:24:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

bullshit and asswipe. you are absolutely wrong, you are absolutely cornered until you can come up with a testable and result getting theory that defies einsteins general theory of relativity, and einsteins special theory of relativity to boot.

that is, you need to come up with something that defies gravity and acceleration.


You mean how farts penetrate the nostrils of those who think physics does not apply.

I am sort of surprised you join their madness.

I responded to all those demolitions btw that you put up as collapses LOL

It stands:

the governemnt admitted freefall, therefore admitted demolition as if all the civilian testimony was not enough.




mnottertail -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:26:42 AM)

And you have nothing but frenetic asswipe and nonsense.

Gravity exists, acceleration exists.

Well, to make it easier on you, I will give you a lesser problem.

Credible proof that Galilean and Newtonian physics were completely wrong.




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:29:23 AM)

yep and farts and shit on the stick exists too and with enough force can demolish buidlings as well.

so what.

the fact remains that NIST admitted freefall and freefall cannot happen ever never impossible except in a demolition prepped building or one that is being demolished.  period






pahunkboy -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:30:52 AM)

This is why people must get  permit to build a building- so that it never falls in free fall.  Other wise no one could ever sneeze.  




Anaxagoras -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:35:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
I didn't dismiss the 9/11 troofer claims, I considered them, looked at the debunker replies and saw their explanations were stronger.

Stop pulling in stuff that is extraneous to this thread. You don't hear me talking about the mating habits of penguins either, do you?

WTF its not extraneous! You have lost it Rule. It was you challenged me about truth and I stated how I came to my views.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
No people who look for probable explanations because they are likely to be the truth are sane, quite unlike yourself.

Why, thank you. It is better to be insane, you know, if one wants to discern truth.

You need to improve your reading skills. Insanity is actually defined by many as an inability to discern the truth from imagination. That describes you prefectly, my friend.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
What a shame it is that you look like one of those individuals in some respects.

Not at all. It reflects rather well on them, I would think.

So you agree with far-right conspiracy theory, surprise, surprise! Your view holds even less value now, if that is possible!

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Wow Rule is a mind reading parrot expert too... [:D]

I have an interest - albeit rather weak - in ethology.

So you're an expert on parrots too! Well, well, is there anything you're not an expert on? [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
I don't think so. You lobbed quite a few personal attacks on my character.

Oh? You cannot think independently and lack creativity. How is that an attack on your character? It is merely who you are. There are billions of people just like you.

You were attacking me by focusing not on arguments but on personality in a critical fashion. It has been the substance of your posts on here. I replied by criticising you back.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Not at all, you claim to be an expert on foreskins so I thought you would take it as a compliment! [:D] It is way nicer than Moon's "Foreskin Boy" is it not?

I don't mind. It is just that it seemed a rather desperate and ill-considered move on your part.

Why? You are noted on this forum for believing all sorts of strange theories on circumcision. Others have said similar.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Avatar came out years later. CGI in many cases looks realistic but not completely so especially with regard to natural movement.

Denial that video material can be tampered with. I see. Indeed, not an expert.

I'm not denying video material can be tampered with. However, it is not easy to do convincingly. Furthermore, the events were reported live with a large array of news outlets form multiple independent sources.

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The over-arching weakness of the TV fakery argument is this: how could the perpetrators have ensured control over all the images taken of the planes that approached the WTC? Only one unmodified image posted to the web would have exposed the operation. New York is a media capital of the world, with national networks, local network affiliates and independent TV stations, international media bureaus, and many independent video companies like the kinds I've worked for, and professional photographers. Professionals would have been rushing out to document whatever they could, through professional pride or the hope for making a buck off it. Evan Fairbanks and war photographer James Nachtway are some examples. And then there are also cameras in the possession of ordinary citizens and the thousands of New York's ever-present tourists. In addition, one should consider the possibility of foreign intelligence assets acquiring their own images of the attack (which so many knew was coming) which could be used for blackmail.

http://www.questionsquestions.net/WTC/review.html




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:35:24 AM)

well the gubafia went into full CYA when physicsts and engineers started beating them up over this.


I have to admit though that some of the bullshit they came up with is rather entertaining.




mnottertail -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:36:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
the fact remains that NIST admitted freefall and freefall cannot happen ever never impossible except in a demolition prepped building or one that is being demolished.  period



More untutored asswipe. Simple experiment. put a golf ball on top of an upended toilet paper tube. Fuck it, put a feather up there.

Take a blowtorch and burn the tube, take a razor and cut the tube, take a shotgun and shoot the tube....you getting the picture yet? (find a way to take out the upright, shit....let it stand in the rain until it disintegrates....time is not of the essense here.

does the feather freefall? Yes.

A plane slamming into the toilet paper tube will do the same thing for us...

You may call that a demolition prepped if you wish.

now on to the other experiment, remove your straightjacket and have the asylum attendants place you vertically and drop a Iron I beam on your head. You may call that demolition prepped if you wish.

Next........




Rule -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:37:13 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
So one copy of the text for all the international media institutions around the world would have been enough? [:D]

Mebbe. Them media parrot each other anyway, so yes, one feeder might suffice.




Anaxagoras -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:39:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
So one copy of the text for all the international media institutions around the world would have been enough? [:D]

Mebbe. Them media parrot each other anyway, so yes, one feeder might suffice.

So they would release one script when all they had to do was have a look and see the building collapsing! How daft you sound. [:D]




Real0ne -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:41:09 AM)

planes can do anything in cgi land!





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Rule -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:42:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
Just get fucking glasses as I told you repeatedly, I'm sure anyone with normal eyesight can. There is a big fucking gash all the way from the top of the one purely yellow line down to the bottom of it. Most of the damage is obscured by smoke but some of it is clearly visible.

According to the NIST (?) report it was all about one column that was nowhere near that superficial damage. Any hypothetically damaged columns in the neighborhood of that superficial damage did not contribute to the collapse.




pahunkboy -> RE: There was a plane! (8/13/2011 9:45:51 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
So one copy of the text for all the international media institutions around the world would have been enough? [:D]

Mebbe. Them media parrot each other anyway, so yes, one feeder might suffice.


Thats right-  they also use eachothers feeds and PR which is manufactured to look like news. They do this EVERY day!




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