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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 3:43:09 PM

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Hey hardcybermaster! Is that you, jlf1961? If so, you ought to have a signature telling people that it is one of your sock-puppets. It is sometimes hard to tell otherwise.

now I know I have made it into the big time. I am fairly sure that jlf1961 and I are seperate entities otherwise I have got a lot older and put on a lot of weight( sorry jlf!)
Do you not see that your attempt to group 2 people together as 1 person is a clear manifestation of your paranoia?

Or a clear manifestation of his inability to post anything that makes sense.

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 3:45:15 PM

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leave the thread now
no,right now
I don't like to be all Dom but I am telling you both to leave this thread now.
your sanity is in danger
go
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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 3:53:07 PM

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And your proof that this is true?

Your proof that it is a reasonably well made?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POUSJm--tgw

Your link of david chandler. He says and I quote 'this is a remake' so its a fuckin cartoon, right? He is bunking up the idiots.

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 3:56:20 PM

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And your proof that this is true?

Your proof that it is a reasonably well made?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POUSJm--tgw

Your link of david chandler. He says and I quote 'this is a remake' so its a fuckin cartoon, right? He is bunking up the idiots.

yes and if you listen to the next lines he states the reason is that he has much better software.

Thats ok to get better software isnt it?

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 3:57:58 PM

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Its sort of fun watching you agree with me while putting on a show that we disagree.

Ok so since you are getting impatient then lets continue where we left off where great progress was being made.

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LEAD NIST INVESTIGATOR Shuntar:

Freefall; "WOULD BE A FALLING OBJECT THAT HAS NO ah... STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS BELOW IT" (video 3)

Shuntar lied in the above statement.

yes or no.

No. Not whatsoever, thank you for playing but you are unable to cogitate.

Ok so shuntar did not lie, that is correct.

Is this a correct graphical approximation of a freefalling object

yes or no

yes

is this a correct reasonably approximation for a freefalling building

yes or no

good enough, yes.

Did the full length and width of the roof line after the initial kink of a couple feet fall reasonably uniform and parallel with the ground?

yes or no

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:00:07 PM

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Oh, you can clip out of context and maintain bullshit must be true, but when I do it you have actual reasons.........I see how that works.

So, again, the barn, better yet....

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:01:36 PM

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Jesus Fucking Christ. Debating the laws of physics ? Look Man, buildings are built to be demolished at the end of their life cycle. This has been going on for longer than most people have been born. So some force got lucky, or it didn't. If it got lucky the government was complicit or incompetent. If it was planned the government was complicit or incompetent.

The energy you people put into debating this shit is phenomenal, you could get a piece of ass with less effort. You could steal something, and I mean something of value. You could probably find the original "Start Freedom Project" package and actually get all your fucking federal taxes back (which has not been done to my knowledge). You could raise a fucking family, rebuild a transmission, put an addition on your house.

The fucking shit was made to tear down. If it was not, when it's tme to demolish it half the fucing city goes with it. It is in the fucking building codes. That is not the point, the point was if it was planned or not. If it was not planned the government is complicit and/or incompetent. If it was planned the government is complicit and/or incompetent.

And why was that area so focussed upon in Led Zepplin - Song Remains The Same ? (Stairway To Heaven video) And who cares ?

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:02:23 PM

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Its sort of fun watching you agree with me while putting on a show that we disagree.

Ok so since you are getting impatient then lets continue where we left off where great progress was being made.

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LEAD NIST INVESTIGATOR Shuntar:

Freefall; "WOULD BE A FALLING OBJECT THAT HAS NO ah... STRUCTURAL COMPONENTS BELOW IT" (video 3)

Shuntar lied in the above statement.

yes or no.

No. Not whatsoever, thank you for playing but you are unable to cogitate.

Ok so shuntar did not lie, that is correct.

Is this a correct graphical approximation of a freefalling object

yes or no

yes

is this a correct reasonably approximation for a freefalling building

yes or no

good enough, yes.

Did the full length and width of the roof line after the initial kink of a couple feet fall reasonably uniform and parallel with the ground?

yes or no

leave it MN

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:03:06 PM

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pictures of houses on their footprint from tornado angular momentum in a straight or jagged line force but they dropped in their footprint, straight down.

Explain why they dropped on their footprint, (remember external and extraordinary forces at work here)...not tipped over.

Natural? Free Fall?

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:04:18 PM

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"is this a correct reasonably approximation for a freefalling building

yes or no

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No. Not when you say free falling. It is against the laws of physics. Even if you are so advanced as to assume logarythmic scales when applicable, you should know better than to present them as such, assuming those skills in others.

If you contend that debris and structual components break the fall, it is NOT a freefall. Get the fucking graph right, before you try to make a point to people who are only minimally educated. I mean Phds and shit. You have to tell some people EVERYTHING.

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:07:01 PM

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"is this a correct reasonably approximation for a freefalling building

yes or no

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No.

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explain

(you know as well as I do if this were a court the judge would make him answer the question or he would default to my calim)

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:09:11 PM

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"is this a correct reasonably approximation for a freefalling building

yes or no

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No.

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Its a correct reasonable approximation for the Mann Hockey Stick (mirror image) though...another fraud!

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:09:31 PM

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pictures of houses on their footprint from tornado angular momentum in a straight or jagged line force but they dropped in their footprint, straight down.

Explain why they dropped on their footprint, (remember external and extraordinary forces at work here)...not tipped over.

Natural? Free Fall?

were they smashed or did they collapse?

We get no where when you continually change the subject, care to stick to the subject now?

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:10:06 PM

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fuck it, term has been sucked in too.
stop being rational term, go back to your insane ramblings
Ax and Mn are in danger of losing their sanity, you are in danger of proving your rationality
They have got you just where they want you
in their strange fucked up little world
run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:16:05 PM

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fuck it, term has been sucked in too.
stop being rational term, go back to your insane ramblings
Ax and Mn are in danger of losing their sanity, you are in danger of proving your rationality
They have got you just where they want you
in their strange fucked up little world
run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes they are in grave danger as opening eyes for the first time can be very painful.

In fact I am noting that just coming close to the light seems to be very painful for them.

How about you? Are your eyes open or closed?

I just wish this was in a court, where orderly argument can be had, I would have been in and out with these guys in 10 minutes. LOL

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:24:45 PM

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fuck it, term has been sucked in too.
stop being rational term, go back to your insane ramblings
Ax and Mn are in danger of losing their sanity, you are in danger of proving your rationality
They have got you just where they want you
in their strange fucked up little world
run away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes they are in grave danger as opening eyes for the first time can be very painful.

In fact I am noting that just coming close to the light seems to be very painful for them.

How about you? Are your eyes open or closed?

I just wish this was in a court, where orderly argument can be had, I would have been in and out with these guys in 10 minutes. LOL

I was just about to post a stinging retort when I realised I had been sucked in too.
Realone is clearly desperate for attention, if anyone here actually knows him in real life please have him evaluated by some people in white coats.
The rest of you should know better

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 4:31:55 PM

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Don't try to get a job as an engineer, ANY OF YOU. The first year you study force vectors. A plane hit a building ON THE SIDE. It did not land on it. A structure that tall, even though it is embedded in bedrock (and it was) will topple. It WILL break somewhere but for a couple of possibilities. One of which could be that members of the structure placed at the corner having extreme tensile strength would hold it up. There were no members, anything with that kind of tensile stength would have to have been made out of magnesium, to explain some of the heat. However that explaination would have been used by now, given the level of public suscpicion and the resulting distrust. However that would have alerted people that many people that they live and work in buildings that are really designed to just fall down. With them inside by the way.

Now, when a building is demolished, the support members that ARE at the corners of the building and are attached to the floors, which in such a structure I would say are prestressed concrete to avoid the use of too many columns, which happens to better facilitate demolition as well. Say there is a main support beam right in the middle and you blow it, no further charges are necessary as long as the edges of those floors are attached well to the outside walls, and more importantly the main support beam in the corners, as welll as a few other places. This is simple geometry folks.

Are you trying to prove that demolition devices were built into the building from the gitgo ? I will not dispute that and as far as I am concerned it really is not a material point. You can study all the fucking psuedoscience and shit until the cows come home but that does not change the fact that most of the time, planes do not fly into buildings. And I don't believe they vaporized on contact either, along with the black boxes and shit. As the Boss said in the movie Reservior Dogs, there is a rat in the house. We KNOW there is a rat in the house and nobody is coming up with anything to fix this problem.

You can all sit here and twiddle your thumbs forever, but might I suggest you shove them up your ass and maybe have a good time ?

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 5:08:57 PM

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I was just about to post a stinging retort when I realised I had been sucked in too.
Realone is clearly desperate for attention, if anyone here actually knows him in real life please have him evaluated by some people in white coats.
The rest of you should know better

like I said unfortunately this is not an orderly court. If it were I would have walked out with a win in 10 minutes.

You can see that when they figured out what I did they started to dance their feet smokin raw. There is a reason for that.

and dont forget they antagonized me into this and I warned them that this a slam dunk and they are foolish for doing so but they wanted it now they got it. They can dance until they have no legs, because there is no way off this island with out defeat for them, and I am just the guy to prosecute the matter in our little friendly court.

This shit is incredibly easy high school shit.

Sit back enjoy the show.

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 5:13:40 PM

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so where were we....

Oh yeh you were going to answer this question:

Did the full length and width of the roof line after the initial kink of a couple feet fall reasonably uniform and parallel with the ground?

yes or no

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RE: There was a plane! - 8/16/2011 5:20:54 PM

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so where were we....

Oh yeh you were going to answer this question:

Did the full length and width of the roof line after the initial kink of a couple feet fall reasonably uniform and parallel with the ground?

yes or no

some sections did, some didnt. Thats why the surrounding buildings suffered so much damage.

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