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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/15/2011 9:42:30 AM

EmilyRocks

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These forums should be a place to discuss things openly, not be absolutely ridiculed for no reason beyond self indulgence.

Focus and his supporters are the ones doing the ridiculing in this thread.

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Trying a little too hard for relevance now, don't ya think...? None of that 30 years of "Dungeon Master" experience to share with the OP?

Nothing at all? Big surprise.... pffft

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Based on the familiar Hannah/Heather theme expressed here (there's only 2 ways - our way and the wrong way), I'm guessing you're not much past.... 20? <shrugs>

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If you wanna ponder "sad", go find Arpig.

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nothing more than the acting out of a tiresome little drama queen.

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You (all) win with the white ant effect - an "only females are welcome to participate" CM discussion forums, of course. At least, those forums for actually discussing D/s. You haven't noticed?

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the twisted and bastardised crap she (and her partner) continually spew.

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My resident stalker takes yet another cheap shot without ever addressing the topic himself, and promptly disappears back down his hole. Cues "little miss issues"....

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Because I don't need the intolerant but currently populist garbage such has played out in this thread.

One person disagreed with him.

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the two main ones and their demented Abbot & Costello act sidekicks

Gratuitous attack on two people who make dumb jokes.

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And then gigglesnorts and teehees and shouts down anyone who doesn't love their nonsense like they do.

I have yet to see this, I only see it in reverse.

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They're a dime a dozen and, if it wasn't for the insane tolerance of otherwise broad-minded folks, they'd have been on their merry little ways already.

Now, show me where the other side of this discussion (1 person who was making the same point you made in your previous two posts on this thread, by the way) has done anywhere near that amount of ridiculing.

Are you sure you're new-found agreement with Focus, who you disagreed with earlier, isn't based entirely on the fact that Heather's girlfriend slapped you around on another thread?

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/15/2011 9:48:48 AM

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ORIGINAL: poise

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ORIGINAL: Focus50

I think you're describing different
headspaces relative to choices....

But if you're bound and been taught there's nothing you can do about
unbinding yourself, you instinctively slide into acceptance that you have
no choice or power to change your situation and you "let go" - let it all go....

Focus.

Indeed. I find this same ability to let go when blindfolded as well.

Blindfolds are one of he best inventions ever for our fetish pleasures, head space and getting the wearer back into their skin...aren't they ?

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/15/2011 9:50:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: slaveluci

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ORIGINAL: Focus50
Just so we're clear in this instance, it's not Heather's victory so much as the combined effect of otherwise intelligent people who buy into the twisted and bastardised crap she (and her partner) continually spew.

I couldn't agree more, Focus. Master and I have been laughing at what's been going on over the last couple of months but, the truth is, it's really something to be mourned, not laughed at. And, as you pointed out, it's not as much what they say and how they say it as it is otherwise reasonable, willing-to-friendly debate ya people not only tolerating their nonsense and abuse but lapping it up and cheering them on. I've been here about 4 1/2 years with about 3,800 posts and I can count on one hand the number of folks I've truly had issues with on these boards. Then, these people come along (the two main ones and their demented Abbot & Costello act sidekicks) and just start totally disrespecting me and many others. Then their champions - people I'd never had a harsh word with here in years - start attacking too. Actually had the nerve to accuse me of writing something I absolutely did not and then call me a "liar" when I said I didn't. It's crazymaking, Twilight Zone-type bullshit and it's mean-spirited and bullying and ignorant. And no one does anything but chuckle and cheer them on. It's really pathetic.

The bottom line is that if I tried to get away with saying one shred of the bullshit they do, I'd long since been shouted down. So would any newbie and many other established posters. I honestly don't know why people who otherwise have bullshit detectors on 10 and who don't tolerate the know-it-all rudeness this bunch is so good at are eating this up with a spoon. I guess a few half naked pix of itty bitty titties and sitting-on-the-potty shots go along way 'cause that's the only reason I can come up with.

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Diverse opinion is no longer cool etc. And the crowd cheers....

And then gigglesnorts and teehees and shouts down anyone who doesn't love their nonsense like they do.

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And that last sentence gives me pause; has me considering my further participation on these forums (as well as my first signature line). Rule of life No4 - don't bother with places you're not welcome. Quite the drama-queen myself, ay? Still, where are all the male posters going? Because I don't need the intolerant but currently populist garbage such has played out in this thread.

I really hope you stick it out, Focus. Your contributions have always been thought-provoking and valued by myself and many others. Your sig line is very true, esp. here lately but over the years, we've seen 'em come and go, eh? Barge in full of shit and shinola, cursing with every breath and telling us all how it's done and how if it ain't done like that, it's wrong. They're a dime a dozen and, if it wasn't for the insane tolerance of otherwise broad-minded folks, they'd have been on their merry little ways already. Hang in there. Such populist garbage, as you say, too shall pass. We can only hope it's sooner rather than later.........luci

I don't post often, but I do read the various forums a lot, and I totally agree with what both you and Focus have said.

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/15/2011 1:47:21 PM

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their demented Abbot & Costello act sidekicks

Alright! We made it! We have a rant aimed at us!

It's the first time it's ever happened to me. It does make me feel a little special. But I don't recall ever interacting with her before. Why is she including us in her rant?

She had an argument with Hannah and is still mad about it, so now everything is Hannah's fault. We're associated with Hannah, so its all our fault as well. Even somebody else altogether saying she lied about something is Hannah's fault, and therefore ours as well.

That's really dumb.

That's a bit of an understatement.

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/15/2011 3:27:32 PM

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So i am curious if others share these same perceptions or experience that i do:

If i am alone with my Owner, then being nude is enjoyable and being restrained is part of our landscape. If i am with others, then being nude is incredibly stressful and anxiety producing. Oddly, i'm thinking, i find great comfort in being restrained if in the presence of others making easier than if i'm not restrained. Even more so, if i'm alone then being caged is a challenge but if i'm with others, being caged protects me as much as it restrains me. It just seems that there's some cognitive dissonance here and i wonder if others have similar experience.

Gravity has not been kind but I do like being naked when I can. For one thing, it saves $ because I have less laundry to do, less soap to buy, less bleach etc. When I'm naked, I don't get my sleeves caught on doors and they don't catch on fire when I'm cooking. Win-win!

You have different reactions to different sorts of stimulus. I do as well and it's sort of cool actually. If I reacted the same way to each thing I wouldn't get to experience the diversity I do. Some things make me more uncomfortable than others, cause some stress but if I take that just for what it is, I can learn to appreciate it for giving me something to think about and sometimes it gives me even more than that in that I actually learn to enjoy it. Enduring just because he wants me to endure though.. yeah, that, too. He does the same for me though.. he puts up with my trublesome ass.

The two reactions to being caged - being alone is a challenge but being in front of others feels like the cage protects you. What an opportunity to 'think' about why you feel protected in the cage? Do you feel threatened when in the presence of others. Does a cage offer you some sort of 'clothing'. Why is being in a cage when you are alone a challenge? Is it because you feel the desire to break free, perhaps that it is a level of control that makes you uncomfortable? For me, I'm not all about cages any more - bad knees, bad back etc., but in my more youthful day, I loved cages.. being in them, being around them because (like bondage) they made me feel safer, so I totally get the feeling protected part. It's like the feeling I get when I'm in bondage and can't move .. it's like being hugged.. there's security in it and bondage, even if it's just a thin piece of saran wrap between me and the outside populace, it's like lead is to Superman.. the kryptonite can't even begin to approach me. Way cool. Over the years I've built up a pretty good tolerance to kryptonite but it still gets me on occasion so bondage and cages.. yeah, I can relate.

Other times, it's just a matter of endurance. It's what I signed up for after all.. doing things 'his' way. I did my best to ask all the right questions so I was savvy enough to know whether or not 'his' way was cool with me and mostly it was and is (which is why I'm still doing it!) but over all if some of the things you are experiencing make you so uncomfortable that it's affecting your enjoyment of just living as you are and who you are.. talk to your partner. See if there are activities or something which can help you alleviate the stress or, perhaps just sit down and talk to the toppy-type about why that stress is something they want or desire to see in you. It might change your perspective enough to actually lessen the stress you feel.

The last thought I wanted to share is that being restrained may be less stressful to you because it takes away the 'choice' you have to be naked. You're naked, you're tied up but it's not your fault.. you're being restrained. It's one of the perks of being on the bottom. You get to have your cake and eat it too and, hell, I love cake so really enjoy that aspect of the whole shebang. It's like having permission (which is even better than incentive!) to enjoy yourself. It's not required but it's cool to have just the same.

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/16/2011 2:54:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: EmilyRocks

Focus and his supporters are the ones doing the ridiculing in this thread.

Oh goody, yet another drive-by, bad-ass, trash-talker who hasn't got word one for the actual topic, either.

Original thought is a lost art for too many, unfortunately. Maybe 'cause it starts with knowledge and experience that's relevant...?

And yes, I'm aware I'm demonstating your quoted point here. Are you aware of the difference between proactive and reactive?

Focus.

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/16/2011 4:42:24 AM

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Hmmm.....my original thought for the day.......

nope....got nuthin......back to the regularly scheduled bickerin.......

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RE: Changing Perceptions: Of Nudity & Restraint - 8/16/2011 4:17:34 PM

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